BB disclosed that defense called many of its own blitzes, vs. Jets

[woolster22]

I'd like to see 'em vs the Saints. Great QB, oline and weapons.

That'd be one hell of a SB.

Agree, That would be a great SB

We should have seen it last year.

 

[n1997y]

That’s the beauty of it. It’s not random. It’s specific to what you do. On each and every single play. Not to anything you’ve ever seen before. How do you study that?

Then you study what THEY do when an offense lines up in X formation or Y formation. Then you adjust your plays off that.

Ah, but part of the specific response is based on the scouting of your players and their particular individual strengths and weaknesses. So what they did when the Giants lined up in a particular formation with Nate Solder on the line won’t be what they do when the Jets line up in the same formation with their tackle in place of Solder. And so on. It’s chess, while you’re still playing checkers.

 

[TomPatriot]

I've always wondered what would happen if, after the QB identifies the Mike, that player swaps positions with one of the other backers at the last second.

Nothing.

 

[slash83]

Now the defense is just showing off.

 

[Biffins]

This is actually incredible and I think a massive massive game changer. Similar to how the Pats adopted the unstoppable option routes starting in 2007, where the receiver runs based on how the defense sets up, and Brady and the WR know what to do seconds before the snap. Impossible to defend when the WR runs to the open part of the field, the option route isn't dictated by the play.

A defense that blitzes based on what the offense does and after they already set protection, seconds before the snap, I feel like is going to be a massive game changing innovation that will end up having a long term impact on the entire league.

Exponentially increases complexity of the defense. Moreso than even the offense where only Brady is changing the calls at the line. While the current unit is cohesive enough to pull it off, future inductees will struggle.

 

[Triumph]

This is what a great coach does. Give credit, take blame.

Also, good and great Head Coaches delegate responsibility.

You see BB on the sidelines interjecting his offensive, defensive and special teams observations when necessary and not trying to micro manage Nobody likes working for people like that. Obviously, BB is more focused on the defense because that is where his roots lie, but he will also be in sync with Josh McDaniels and Joe Judge.

 

[ViperGTS]

Now I am pissed. Wasn’t it Rodney who had a bad feeling about that blitz against Eli in 42? And Seau told him to just blitz.

oh well.

 

[Sicilian]

In 2016, Collins got traded for freelancing. Now he's part of a group that is freelancing (in a fashion) due to trust and design. This is beautiful.

 

[patchick]

In 2016, Collins got traded for freelancing. Now he's part of a group that is freelancing (in a fashion) due to trust and design. This is beautiful.

Coordinated, whole-team freelancing is an oxymoron I can get behind.

 

[SBLIII]

This is impressive.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Nothing.

With the amoeba defense and the players milling around, does identifying the Mike even do anything anymore? How does each OL know who to block? When the previously-identified Mike is now suddenly playing what amounts to 5 technique, isn't that going to screw with the OL?

There was a famous funny episode from an NFL game where the QB identified the Mike, whereupon the Mike yelled "I'm not the Mike!"

 

[patfanken]

I think Lazar is onto something, the defense acting as its own DC would be historically unprecedented, and flat out unfair- a huge advantage in that headset communication is shut off with 15 seconds left on the snap clock.

This would mean that once the offense locks in on their playcall, adjustments, and protection, the defense is free to adjust right up to the snap.

Not quite. I have stated on several occasions that AFTER the call has come in from the sideline, the defense can change based on the formations, motions, and personnel packages that the offense comes out in. I've also stated on several occasions that the call from the sideline is the least important function of the process to defend the play, because the play caller is only guessing on what the defense will see.

So what we are seeing from the Pats is probably what they've been doing for 20 years. EXCEPT that because of the experience, position flexibility, and overall smarts of the people playing the defense, it can be run more efficiently. AND because of all that, there is a level of trust in the overall defense, that Bill is confident in allowing the players to change the call from the sidelines to something that better fits what the players are seeing on the field. And it is about PLAYERS making those calls, not just one person.

Being able to change the defense AFTER the offense declares its alignment is a HUGE advantage. So what can an offense do? They can go to a hurry up tempo and not give the defense a chance to reset. Of course that comes with its own problems. Really fascinating cat and mouse stuff.

 

[Kontradiction]

Not quite. I have stated on several occasions that AFTER the call has come in from the sideline, the defense can change based on the formations, motions, and personnel packages that the offense comes out in. I've also stated on several occasions that the call from the sideline is the least important function of the process to defend the play, because the play caller is only guessing on what the defense will see.

So what we are seeing from the Pats is probably what they've been doing for 20 years. EXCEPT that because of the experience, position flexibility, and overall smarts of the people playing the defense, it can be run more efficiently. AND because of all that, there is a level of trust in the overall defense, that Bill is confident in allowing the players to change the call from the sidelines to something that better fits what the players are seeing on the field. And it is about PLAYERS making those calls, not just one person.

Being able to change the defense AFTER the offense declares its alignment is a HUGE advantage. So what can an offense do? They can go to a hurry up tempo and not give the defense a chance to reset. Of course that comes with its own problems. Really fascinating cat and mouse stuff.

I highly doubt that BB was letting the ‘09-‘11 defenses do this. There’s a certain level of trust, that being full trust, that he needs to have in his defenses.

 

[patfanken]

I highly doubt that BB was letting the ‘09-‘11 defenses do this. There’s a certain level of trust, that being full trust, that he needs to have in his defenses.

No probably not. But the structure to do it has always been there, but it requires both a talented AND experienced secondary to pull it off, especially under the current rules.

and THIS is why BB has been drafting all those CB's over the years (to various degrees of success )

 

[neuronet]

All I know is for the first time in a long time, I am more excited when our defense is on the field than our offense. I just can't wait to see what they will do.

 

[PP2]

EXCEPT that because of the experience, position flexibility, and overall smarts of the people playing the defense, it can be run more efficiently. AND because of all that, there is a level of trust in this year's overall defense, that Bill is confident in allowing the players an unprecedented level of freedom to change the call from the sidelines to something that better fits what the players are seeing on the field.

FIFY. Minor corrections to your grammar.

 

[Billsfanonapatsforum]

a competent team with a calm QB would entice the defense to self adjust to what they see and then get beaten tremendously bad for doing that. The jets are incompetent from the coach to the QB and the QB couldn't read a jumbo tron that said "blitz". BB duped Josh Allen, he took the bait for a solid chunk of the game but unlike other teams, JA did adapt in Q3 and take what they give you until they change what they give you. Barkley, did the same and was nickle and diming his way down. The Pats defense is good, it requires you to be nearly perfect but most definitely to play 3 down football for long periods of time. If you play fundamental football better than the patriots do, you can win the game. But you need to be good in all phases. This is not the BB team that wins by TB12 picking your D apart. This is the NYG BB/Parcells team that beats you with coaching and complete football.... BB just so happens to also have GOAT TB12... that helps.

 

[Nehalem]

All I know is for the first time in a long time, I am more excited when our defense is on the field than our offense. I just can't wait to see what they will do.

Yep. The offense should just hurry up and punt the ball so we can bask in the defense

 

[neuronet]

They've gone from bend but don't break to Search and Destroy.

 

[n1997y]

... If you play fundamental football better than the patriots do, you can win the game. But you need to be good in all phases. ...

Easier said than done.