Any Way Michael Floyd Returns to New England?

[40yrpatsfan]

No reason not to consider him for a cheap, TC tryout/extended look if that's an option, but I think that ship has probably sailed.

Cooks
Edelman
Hogan
Mitchell
Amendola

Should all be close to locks. Of course, injuries happen, so that's why I'd consider the idea of a cheap deal where we could easily cut him. He'd almost certainly miss some early OTA's, has a proven drinking problem, and involvement with the courts. He's probably not what Belichick is looking for.

Just wondering though, what specifically made you feel as though he did well in his limited time here? One good block? A catch? Most of the time he wasn't even able to see the field. This idea that he looked good is somewhat overblown, in my opinion. I think he looked somewhat serviceable.

He has a skill set our other WR's don't have, very physical a-la David Givens or Anquan Boldin, 6'3 220 and a physical attitude, can dominate a smaller db, and is the best run blocker among our WR's. Those are the things that are appealing about him. But our other 5 guys are all talented, and except for Cooks they know the system and Brady trusts they'll run the right route and catch it if it's catchable. Floyd hasn't had the time to prove himself that way yet.

He seems totally salvageable as far as the drinking. He's made 2 mistakes, one in college and the other after a game and long flight where he drank then fell asleep at the wheel. He showed the right attitude in NE late last year, so that's really a non-issue at this point. The 4 game suspension (if that's what it is) needs to be considered, but that could actually work in his favor as far as staying with the Patriots, as by then someone could be hurt.

 

[ALP]

by the time he would be available to play a down in a game (week 4-6) theres a good chance some kind of injury on roster and/or WR group will provide him an opening

to make the roster from beginning of season? not likely

 

[GoBlue]

Floyd offers some things the other guys don't. He's a big strong guy. I wouldn't be afraid to line him up at TE in some situations. If he's willing to take a reasonable contract i'd sign him.

 

[brdmaverick]

I'd consider the idea of a cheap deal where we could easily cut him.

That would be awsesome for the team to have a player of the caliber of Michael Floyd as our 'break glass in case of emergency' type player.

As fans it's probaby more wishful thinking than anything that Floyd would take a cheap deal, make himself cuttable, and have to sit on the bench waiting for an injury.

I hope it happens too, but I just don't see it happening. I'm not implying that you think he'd come here. In fact, I think we're on the same page that it would be nice, but worrying about the 6th wide receiver isn't a large concern at the moment.

 

[brdmaverick]

Floyd offers some things the other guys don't. He's a big strong guy. I wouldn't be afraid to line him up at TE in some situations. If he's willing to take a reasonable contract i'd sign him.

Floyd at TE? Now I'm intrigued b/c we could actually have a use for him.

 

[neuronet]

I assume almost everyone will say no, he's not needed. And perhaps that's true. But I liked what I saw in his limited time here.

I'm a little confused. What did you like? He had two good plays and then fizzled. I wasn't super impressed. It seemed he never got on the same page as Brady. Granted, he didn't have time to really mind-meld, but some WRs do it fast (Moss). Some never do (Ochocinco). Really hard to tell where he will fall. Not sure he is worth cap space and he is suspended right?

 

[maineman209]

Floyd at TE? Now I'm intrigued b/c we could actually have a use for him.

The way I see it, the Pats have offensive plays that are designed to exploit certain types of defensive sets and players. Then they have roles within those plays that aren't necessarily totally position dependent.

For instance, they may have a play that they run with 4WR and and RB that they also run with 2WR, 2RB and a TE - just different guys filling the identical roles. That seems like a good way to disguise the intentions of the offense.

So, it's entirely possible that Floyd could be subbed in for, say, Dwayne Allen on certain plays, further disguising them. LaFell, also a great blocker, appeared to be used similarly a couple of years ago.

Floyd wouldn't necessarily become a full-time TE, though.

 

[mosslost]

No reason not to consider him for a cheap, TC tryout/extended look if that's an option, but I think that ship has probably sailed.

Cooks
Edelman
Hogan
Mitchell
Amendola

Should all be close to locks. Of course, injuries happen, so that's why I'd consider the idea of a cheap deal where we could easily cut him. He'd almost certainly miss some early OTA's, has a proven drinking problem, and involvement with the courts. He's probably not what Belichick is looking for.

Just wondering though, what specifically made you feel as though he did well in his limited time here? One good block? A catch? Most of the time he wasn't even able to see the field. This idea that he looked good is somewhat overblown, in my opinion. I think he looked somewhat serviceable.

There was an INT on a throw to him in the Houston playoff game too.. I'm not saying that was his fault, but Brady throws so few, and that was not a tip or anything funky.. so you never know.

 

[Joey007]

IMO, if injury.

 

[DW Toys]

I'll take him for competition and as injury insurance. Can't think of a better injury replacement if any of the top 4 WRs get hurt in camp or preseason and aren't ready to go opening night.

Cousins, I agree that he is insurance, but the best block I saw last year and best run after catch belonged to Floyd who was on our roster for only a few weeks. He's three years younger than Edelman and four years younger than Dola who both play with abandon and get nicked during the year. It's almost a guarantee one or the other will get dinged at an inopportune time.

Mitchell could do a sophomore slump like Dobson did. On paper, Floyd has the second most talent of any Pats WR.

OK, Let's discuss personal NO-NOs from the Pats roster or past. Blount got caught with herbius weedius, just as bad as alcohol. BB's own son got caught more than likely...inhaling! Rodney Harrison and Nink, busted for PEDs. One of the top Draft picks, Second Rounder Brandon Spikes got caught doing a porno. Moss was no choir boy and Corey Dillon makes Floyd look like Mother Teresa. They gave Hardy a second chance and he did not take advantage of it and it looks like Mixon will be Drafted.

But if you want to see the poster boy for being a "drunk" and turning it around to a Hall of Fame career, it was Chris Carter.
Would anyone on this forum would have rejected a sober Chris Carter on the Pats back then? He got a second chance.

His cost should be reasonable. He has more talent at WR than anyone we will pick with our available picks. He at least has some of our system down. I would say the Pats saw something in him to take a shot, perhaps Charlie Weis, his coach at Notre Dame, gave BB the insight. It cost the Pats a million and a half for a look-see for two games. I think they give this kid an offer for a longer stay.

I think there might be another position for Floyd which makes him valuable. "The more you can do".....and all. Hernandez was only slightly heavier than Floyd. Jordan Reed of the Redskins is about than light as well. Remember Hernandez was an "H" back Tight End who lined up on a wing.

Why couldn't you use Floyd as a flex TE "H" back as well as WR? He could be a massive mismatch for a defense and he CAN block. Can't recall a Hernandez block, can you? He's a few doughnuts and BigMacs away from a few more pounds but I like him at 220-225lbs.
DW Toys

 

[Oswlek]

There was an INT on a throw to him in the Houston playoff game too.. I'm not saying that was his fault, but Brady throws so few, and that was not a tip or anything funky.. so you never know.

It was his fault, he ran a sloppy route. Almost another one, too, though some of that one was because the Texans figured out they should just sit on the slant.

Someone earlier mentioned waiting until the end of the suspension, but doesn't Floyd need to be on a roster for that clock to start?

 

[Jackson 2]

To answer the OP's original question, not unless he's on a fall foliage bus tour...

 

[doesntmatter1]

Floyd is one of my all time favorite draft binkies, but I just don't see any room.

 

[mgteich]

only with two long-term injuries

 

[Gronkowski123]

floyd stinks

 

[DaBruinz]

First of all, after May 1st (I think), UFA signings no longer count in the Comp Pick calculations. Given that Floyd's "house arrest" term runs through the 3rd week in June, it seems unlikely that teams would risk a hit to the Comp Picks they currently have in hand by signing Floyd any time soon. IOW, he could still be available as late as mid-July, just before the start of Camp.

Maineman - Please refer to this for information regarding comp picks.

May 1st is NOT when UFA signings no longer count in Comp Pick Calculation. It is typically the start dart of the 1st team to start training camp. In OTC's example, it happened to be July 27th..

The Basics and Methodology of Projecting the NFL's Compensatory Draft Picks | Over the Cap

n order to qualify for the comp equation, a player must have been a true Unrestricted Free Agent whose contract had expired or was voided after the previous season (i.e., he cannot have been released by his old team); he must sign during the UFA signing period (which ended July 27 last year); if he signs after June 1[*], he must have been tendered a June 1 qualifying offer by his old team; his compensatory value or contract value must be above a specific minimum amount; and he cannot have been permanently released by his new team before a certain point in the season (which seems to be after Week 10) or, possibly, before getting a certain amount of playing time, unless he was claimed off waivers by another team.


*On 2015, this date was switched to May 12, and in 2016 it was May 10. It is believed that the cutoff date in future years will be the second Tuesday after the draft.

The May date you are referring to is when players have to receive a qualifying offer June 1st offer. If the player doesn't receive that offer, then he doesn't count towards the Compensation Pick Calculation.

Guarantee that Floyd gets that offer..

 

[DaBruinz]

by the time he would be available to play a down in a game (week 4-6) theres a good chance some kind of injury on roster and/or WR group will provide him an opening

to make the roster from beginning of season? not likely

Why do you think he wouldn't be available before week 4? People seem to have forgotten that the NFLPA and NFL already have a structure in place for dealing with this. And it's not a 4 game suspension for a 1st offense.

And please don't bring out the Brady BS. Goodell suspended Brady for "Non-Cooperation" during Deflategate. He CHANGED what Brady was being suspended for. Not for tampering with the footballs, but for Non-Cooperation.

There is no way he can do that with Floyd since Floyd has cooperated the entire way.

 

[Ring 6]

Why do you think he wouldn't be available before week 4? People seem to have forgotten that the NFLPA and NFL already have a structure in place for dealing with this. And it's not a 4 game suspension for a 1st offense.

And please don't bring out the Brady BS. Goodell suspended Brady for "Non-Cooperation" during Deflategate. He CHANGED what Brady was being suspended for. Not for tampering with the footballs, but for Non-Cooperation.

There is no way he can do that with Floyd since Floyd has cooperated the entire way.

He can do whatever he wants. The excessive drunkenness opens up goodell to give him a look for suspension.
I would say if he signs with the jets or giants he gets 1 game. If he signed with the pats he gets 6. If he signs anywhere else he gets 4.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I think this position will be one where Belichick signs a few undrafted smurfs to become the next Edelman and Amendola.

 

[Ring 6]

Why do you think he wouldn't be available before week 4? People seem to have forgotten that the NFLPA and NFL already have a structure in place for dealing with this. And it's not a 4 game suspension for a 1st offense.

And please don't bring out the Brady BS. Goodell suspended Brady for "Non-Cooperation" during Deflategate. He CHANGED what Brady was being suspended for. Not for tampering with the footballs, but for Non-Cooperation.

There is no way he can do that with Floyd since Floyd has cooperated the entire way.

brady was suspended for more likely than not having a general knowledge of something that actually didn't happen.
Goodell upheld his suspension on the grounds of conspiring to do something that didn't happen.