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Well he certainly wouldn’t win any with Cam we know that much.Belichick doesn't win six championships without Brady.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Well he certainly wouldn’t win any with Cam we know that much.Belichick doesn't win six championships without Brady.
Unfortunately, Team Tom has a lot more ammo than Team Bill. Maybe all Pats fans would be better off if they both had similar careers apart but they didn't.This has been a problem unfortunately and it’s like a no win situation for those in the middle who appreciate both. When Tom struggled a few times last year it was tough seeing people dumping on him . And when he succeeded then you gotta hear the ragging on bb. Fact is It will take a lot more than one season to truly evaluate what bb can do without Brady, especially a season like 2020.
I wish I had your confidence that we won't miss Gilmore. I'll have to see it to believe it.Not for nothing, but the Pats secondary WITHOUT Gilmore is better than either the Buc's or the Cowboys,
Unfortunately, Team Tom has a lot more ammo than Team Bill. Maybe all Pats fans would be better off if they both had similar careers apart but they didn't.
I've never been a coaches guy. What that means is that if you give me a choice of the GOAT QB or the GOAT HC, I'm taking the QB every time.
As for Belichick needing more than a year, he had that already and it doesn't help his case. But it does help mine. I know from seeing Bill coach that he's the GOAT HC, but he hasn't done anywhere near as well without Brady, the GOAT QB.
I think it's dumb to be on either "team." I still found myself rooting for the Cowboys to beat Tom when he didn't have the ball, and smugly satisfied when Tom beat the Cowboys, "Adam n Leave" style, when the Patriots had the ball.*Unfortunately, Team Tom has a lot more ammo than Team Bill. Maybe all Pats fans would be better off if they both had similar careers apart but they didn't.
I've never been a coaches guy. What that means is that if you give me a choice of the GOAT QB or the GOAT HC, I'm taking the QB every time.
As for Belichick needing more than a year, he had that already and it doesn't help his case. But it does help mine. I know from seeing Bill coach that he's the GOAT HC, but he hasn't done anywhere near as well without Brady, the GOAT QB.
Where are you seeing the Pats with 18.7 this year?Pats have $18.5M in dead money this year. Bucs have $2.7M
Actually I think Mac Jones right now is the perfect candidate to show that Bill has it and can win w/o Brady:Bill's QB last year was obviously of his own making, so I won't excuse that. But when just looking at coach/QB combinations, I'll want to see how Bill does with a QB that's in the same category that Bruce Arians was as a coach prior to Brady. Arians is a blowhard, and I don't love him, but he had won Coach of the Year twice before. It's not like Brady went from Belichick to Adam Gase or Hue Jackson.
I think a good QB comp would be someone like Matthew Stafford or Phillip Rivers. Guys that have good regular season resumes, but never won a ring (partially through their own flaws). If Mac Jones can get to something around their level while Bill is still here, and he still doesn't win one, that closes the argument for me.
Not independently verified, lol.Where are you seeing the Pats with 18.7 this year?
And yes, last year, they had a ton, that was the reset that was needed.
Tampa is stretching out a ton of dead money for several years post-Brady era. Again, you can build a team this way...on a roller-coaster.
BB doesn't. He manages the CAP to keep them competitive. Last year was the reset. They cleared the books and had the cash to take advantage of a down market to bring in a ton of talent.
Just need to get Gilmore back on the field. The longer he delays his return, the more I feel he’s played his last down here.Actually I think Mac Jones right now is the perfect candidate to show that Bill has it and can win w/o Brady:
1. Bill won a SB 1st year that Brady played, a QB selected in 6th round. Pats were not even considered a playoff team back then and it followed a 5-11 year.
2. Bill selected Mac in 1st round, something he'd never done before. He also doesn't have to deal with a veteran QB controversy like w/ Drew.
3. By all accounts Mac is NFL ready, coming from Bama under coach Saban. PFF rated Mac the top QB in the preseason.
4. Bill spent an NFL record amount of $$ during FAcy to restock roster with veterans on both sides of the line. Team has more weapons than during Tom's first SB win.
5. Bill's put together what on paper looks like a top 5 D, which he had 1st year w/ Brady.
All of this ads up to an enormous amount of pressure on Bill to perform. Everyone has the Pats as a contender and even SB threats. There's really no excuses. Bill needs to at the very least make it to AFCCG, imo to temper the perception of TFB>BB.
It would be awesome if he could pull it off.
That whole situation is weird.Just need to get Gilmore back on the field. The longer he delays his return, the more I feel he’s played his last down here.
Actually I think Mac Jones right now is the perfect candidate to show that Bill has it and can win w/o Brady:
1. Bill won a SB 1st year that Brady played, a QB selected in 6th round. Pats were not even considered a playoff team back then and it followed a 5-11 year.
2. Bill selected Mac in 1st round, something he'd never done before. He also doesn't have to deal with a veteran QB controversy like w/ Drew.
3. By all accounts Mac is NFL ready, coming from Bama under coach Saban. PFF rated Mac the top QB in the preseason.
4. Bill spent an NFL record amount of $$ during FAcy to restock roster with veterans on both sides of the line. Team has more weapons than during Tom's first SB win.
5. Bill's put together what on paper looks like a top 5 D, which he had 1st year w/ Brady.
All of this ads up to an enormous amount of pressure on Bill to perform. Everyone has the Pats as a contender and even SB threats. There's really no excuses. Bill needs to at the very least make it to AFCCG, imo to temper the perception of TFB>BB.
It would be awesome if he could pull it off.
I'm not saying he has to win the SB or even make it. I do think that if he makes AFCCG then he's got a lot more weight behind this silly battle and probably wins COY.Oh for sure, if he pulls it off with Mac THIS year, it's a huge feather in his cap. No true rookie QB has ever won a Super Bowl (as the starter anyway... I'm sure there's a rookie who was on a Super Bowl roster), so to pull that off would be proof to me that both guys were truly special on this 20 year run (which I honestly believe anyway).
I'm just looking at last year and saying the dropoff from Brady to Newton was a lot more drastic than the dropoff from Belichick to Arians, so if I could design a scenario (for science) I would want to see Bill coach a comparable QB for a truer one year evaluation.
Going into camp with dead money and coming out of it with dead money are two different numbers, though, right? Retirements (Edelman and Chung), vet cuts (Newton), injury settlements, and trades will almost always add some, to every team.Not independently verified, lol.
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Tampa has been verify disciplined in limiting dead money which is why they had the room to structure some of the deals they made (not a cap guru at all, just what I've been reading).
Not independently verified, lol.
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Tampa has been verify disciplined in limiting dead money which is why they had the room to structure some of the deals they made (not a cap guru at all, just what I've been reading).
We already talk about that. They should’ve won about 6 in the first 10 years together. While they could’ve won less in the last 20 years, the difference was the Pats were a consistent machine, while most of those other teams that gave them trouble or lost to were flukes.we’ll look back in a few years and wonder how the two of them only won 6 together.