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Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to go

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Is it wrong to admit I get wood watching this?

I was amazed when Wes jumped right back up and was back on the field a play or two after. I thought he was done for atleast a few drives.
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

Some people are seeing this as Talib vs Vener I see at as Verner vs Arrington or Ryan.

Talib's hip is going to flare up at some point in the season, he's going to miss games and if/when he does come back he won't be the same.

I myself would rather seem them go the Browner + safety option but Browner will miss the first 4 games of the year.

So if that was the case the first 4 games would be Dennard and Arrington or Ryan on the outside.
 
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I was amazed when Wes jumped right back up and was back on the field a play or two after. I thought he was done for atleast a few drives.

Wes is an Ironman type. My joy was not seeing Wes possibly hurt. It was thinking of the Pats possibly again having an intimidating player who would change the way some opposing receivers ran their routes.
 
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Not a big fan of Verner over Talib
 
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I doubt we resign Talib. Dennard and Ryan would demand $$ soon and if we give Talib a two year deal, would he take it? If we give him 3+ would we be able to afford Talib, Ryan and Arrington? We need to extent McCourty too. I like what Talib brings to the table but he is expensive..
I doubt we sign any top CB tbh..unless it's Browner.
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

man, Ryan just got drafted..
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

man, Ryan just got drafted..

True but in two years we would be thinking of extending him. In a year we'll be thinking of extending Dennard. If we pay McCourty & Talib, will we be able to afford them? Arrignton is already getting good $$
 
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I agree. I think Verner will get 7 million and I think the pats can get Talib for 8 or 8.5 I don't think its worth letting Talib go to save 1.5 million on a guy that is not any better then Ryan or Dennard

I think Verner is a LOT better than Ryan/Dennard. However there are legitimate questions of whether he can be a #1 CB because before he had Jason McCourty in that role.

However I am agreed that Talib is my #1 option - simply because he is a proven fit in our system. However if Talib signs a mega-deal elsewhere, I am not averse to Verner as our 'consolation prize'.

Here's an article dissecting two of this year's top FA corners, and Verner is given the edge over Shields:
Alterraun Verner vs. Sam Shields Free Agent Battle - NFL Spin Zone - A General NFL Blog providing you all the NFL News, Rumors, Updates, and National Football League News.
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

Do you happen to have his sister's phone #? PM me.

His sister isn't allowed to date out of fear for her son's life. That said, she has a boyfriend on the side who is an absolute nut job himself. Not sure you want to go there.
 
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Even in a pass happy league NE isn't paying the going rate for a good CB. There going to rely on the average corners they have now and draft one or two hoping one of them can play.

Hopefully they upgrade the pass rush in free agency or else the defense will suck.
 
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Before he was injured, Talib was the model of consistency. He shut down Vincent Jackson, Julio Jones, AJ Green and Jimmy Graham in back-to-back-to-back-to-back weeks. He was making a pretty solid case to show that, when healthy, he's one of the 3 or 4 best corners alive..

There is no question that Talib is a CB talent worthy of a $10MM/contract, as the first quote proves by the way he shut down 4 of the top receiving options in the league. The obvious problem is his ability to stay on the field. I would opine that NO team is going to sign him to the kind of contract that doesn't take that indisputable fact into consideration.

THAT's whay the Pats have a chance to keep him. I think when Talib realizes that teams are going to want to include reasonable protections against a 5 year history of missing at least 20% of his games, what the Pats are prepared to offer with then look more competitive. If he wants the last dollar, then what the Pats offer isn't going to do the trick. However if all he needs is competitive offer, then I think the Pats are willing to pay him $40-44MM on a 4 year deal, but with only about a third of it guaranteed, where all he has to do to get it all is to be on the field. I don't see other teams doing much more than that.

From an efficiency perspective, Verner's 79.8 percent success rate is right there with Revis' 81.9 percent and actually eclipses Richard Sherman's 78.2 percent success rate for 2012. However, taking raw numbers without context is a fatal mistake.


Verner - is about the size of Ty Law, but law excelled in an era where receivers over 6' tall were the exception rather than the rule. Verner, as the stats above state, his an exceptional talent....BUT. In a league where taking out the opposition's top WR is the key to successfully limiting this era's passing attacks, he might not be the kind of CB that Talib and Sherman are, but he's a good one.

I think we need more size at CB, to that end I would like to add at least Browner or Cook to the mix, and if Talib goes, I'd get both.

As to the rumors, we should all be used to the used to them by now. We will know what happens, when it happens, and not before. As Pats fans its a cross we have to bear.
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

Denver has some big needs at CB. I could really see him going there as he mentioned denver today.

Seems about 1/3 on the NFL has talked to him
 
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According to Curran, Devin McCourty has said the only guy he is politicking is Talib.
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

According to Curran, Devin McCourty has said the only guy he is politicking is Talib.

Trying to raise his price if he mentions the top contenders/more teams with no proof. Smart
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

According to Curran, Devin McCourty has said the only guy he is politicking is Talib.
That makes sense. I could understand lobbying for his brother if he was a FA, but why the hell would McCourty want Verner so bad?
 
Re: Alrerraun Verner: Pats are a "definite possibilty" & Jason McCourty told him to g

I'm sure verner is going to denver. Denver got rid of champ and the 10 million cap hit this weekend for a reason.
 
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