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[BaconGrundleCandy]

14 - MON

14 - TUES

14 + HC, OC, DC - FRI/SUN

That work for everyone??

 

[Dingleberry]

14 - MON

14 - TUES

14 + HC, OC, DC - FRI/SUN

That work for everyone??

14?

The days work for me, just confused on the 14.

 

[Pape]

I really want to do a 3rd round but it can be a few days after. Again thinking that Friday or Sunday just in case I have to work Saturday.

We could play around with a few different ways. Where certain posters have a certain conference. Ik a college one might be tough for some but that would be the best imo for a few different reasons. It's just bizarro world where Johnny Football & Josh Johnson > Tom Brady. They playing fields are even bc they're more players to choose from.

cannot do next friday, the 23rd... basically available on all other days

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

14?

The days work for me, just confused on the 14.

Was thinking for depth but if we're doing another day. One round will be sufficient I believe.

11 - Mon

11 - Tues

11 + HC, OC, DC that Sunday.

I just like the idea of some depth to really paint a picture. In case someone got hurt. Lmk what you guys think. Everyone.

 

[Dingleberry]

Was thinking for depth but if we're doing another day. One round will be sufficient I believe.

11 - Mon

11 - Tues

11 + HC, OC, DC that Sunday.

I just like the idea of some depth to really paint a picture. In case someone got hurt. Lmk what you guys think. Everyone.

Sounds good to me.

One question regarding coaches. Is this going to be some alternative universe where one person can pick Belichick the HC and Belichick the DC? Most of the great coaches were great coordinators.

I might save money and pick Matt Patricia to be my HC, OC, and DC. The guy is so amazing that he has done all 3!

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Sounds good to me.

One question regarding coaches. Is this going to be some alternative universe where one person can pick Belichick the HC and Belichick the DC? Most of the great coaches were great coordinators.

Good question and yea I didn't think of it. Top of my dome I'm thinking first come first serve for one DC or HC. Like someone can only pick Bill once but if they want to pick Gibbs as a HC, Bill as a DC and Joe Judge as a OC if they want. But yea one pick, one position/coach imo.

What does everyone think?

I might save money and pick Matt Patricia to be my HC, OC, and DC. The guy is so amazing that he has done all 3!

How tf that guy ended up where he did in life is beyond me. Incredibly smart guy but absolutely terrible when it comes to applying/coaching it and getting through. Holy smokes I can't believe he went from mediocre/good DC/Coach, failed HC to failed we tf he was here. Unbelievable career trajectory when he should have been in a classroom somewhere.

 

[pazrul72]

Yea definitely spread over a few nights. We can just stop at 10 I'm sure 2 hours will be long enough. Again I'm anticipating this first round to go very quick considering the task.

No I'll create a separate thread specifically for picks.

@Ian are we able to set up a group chat between multiple members?

We could do it that way. If not in the thread itself. If we're only allowing 2 trades that's doable and we can post it with picks to be more efficient.

Terrell Owens

My RD2 pick is on the table or specifically ask another poster for their pick(s).

I'm curious if we even need trades considering there's only a few of us. I'm open to suggestions.

Just so I'm clear.

You have 6 & 7 overall and want #2 overall? So you'd lose a pick?

I would say you get to pick someone once the draft is over from whoever is left? Or the last pick in the draft?

Yeah that's what I was wondering if for whatever reason I wanted to move up I'm giving up a pick so where does that end up? Last pick of the draft sounds right to me in order of who traded up first. How are we determining pick order? And can we get that posted before hand so I have an idea of who I expect to be available at my selection.

I think a full roster is a bit too much of an undertaking. I like the added strategy of not having the personal to run every set. The 14 per side sounds right in giving you some flexibility but not so much you can rum jumbo and 5 wide. 11 per works for me too if that's what more people want. Makes grabbing a slater or tasker a very interesting decision.

 

[Pape]

I think it should be one and done on the coaches... If BB is taken as a HC, he gone, out of the pool... he cannot be selected as a DC by anyone... Just like the players... Would it be right to let someone take a guy like woodson at cb, then another take him at safety? Nah... Doesn't work for me... Just my two cents... But I'm not going to make a huge stink about it if you allow it...

 

[Boomer B]

Simpler the better. I really don't think we need a 3rd day to pick backups.

11 Offensive players
11 Defensive players
1 kicker, 1 punter, 1 returner
1 coach

2 days - 12 rounds per day

 

[Dingleberry]

Simpler the better. I really don't think we need a 3rd day to pick backups.

11 Offensive players
11 Defensive players
1 kicker, 1 punter, 1 returner
1 coach

2 days - 12 rounds per day

I tend to agree with this. If not doing a full roster, I think picking the best starting lineup possible is the way to go.

However, with only 7 of us, we are looking at HOF players at every position on every team. Maybe post an invite on the main board to try to get 12+ people? And hold off until we get enough people?

Or limit the draft pool somehow. SB era is still probably too broad. Personally, I'd rather wait until we have enough people.

A Patriots only draft would work with 7 people for sure.

 

[everlong]

I think anyone famous as a HC cannot be picked for OC/DC. I think that's reserved for a guys who might have been HCs but were much better coordinators. Jim Johnson (Eagles), **** Lebeau, Charlie Weis.....I know there's some guys such as Mike Holmgren who are borderline great HCs but with only 7, or even 12 of us, he's really not getting picked as a HC.

If we're only doing 7 of us I still like the idea of limiting it to SB era or doing a post/pre date where maybe a decade like the 80's is open to either draft.

A Patriots only would work but I'd need more time to prep for that. There's lineman we would all have to draft who we probably haven't thought about in years. I also think those would be dynasty heavy drafts which in some ways adds some strategy.

 

[pazrul72]

I tend to agree with this. If not doing a full roster, I think picking the best starting lineup possible is the way to go.

However, with only 7 of us, we are looking at HOF players at every position on every team. Maybe post an invite on the main board to try to get 12+ people? And hold off until we get enough people?

Or limit the draft pool somehow. SB era is still probably too broad. Personally, I'd rather wait until we have enough people.

A Patriots only draft would work with 7 people for sure.

Bacon did that on the main board last year, very minimal interest which is why it didn’t happen. Personally I like even numbers so an 8th would be ideal so long as it’s not a… umm…..how do I word this….less then desirable poster who says the same things again and again and again and again. That said running it with 7 is better then not running it at all and if we get super teams? Yay my super team will be better built and kick your super teams butt.

I do think we need to agree, one way or the other I don’t care which, though I lean towards a HOF player is a HOF player and guys from the 60‘s with todays full time work outs and dietary understanding would be able to compete. I find the argument that Jim Brown (for example) wouldn’t be as good cuz NTs in his day were 250 pounds, valid, but tiresome. He’s in discussions as the best player of all time in just about every show of that nature I’ve watched. I think the flip question, how good could he have been today, is just as valid.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

. Personally, I'd rather wait until we have enough people.

I'm thinking about waiting for a full roster. I'm just more intrigued by that. 11 v 11 will all have super teams with little difference between them. That said there's little interest. People would rather rebrand their **** post. I get it though it's a task.

 

[everlong]

What about just having the 7 people draft two different teams so we have 14 total. I wouldn't mind trying to build teams with two different methodologies just to see how they would come out. By the end of that draft there would be some interesting picks.

I also think just starting the draft in a thread and letting it run for as long as it needs to might add people. Give a time limit such as 12 hours to make your pick or the person after you gets to make it. That way if somebody makes a 2AM pick an early riser would still have time to make their next pick. I imagine there will be points of down time and boredom but also times when picks go fast. It's also better than not doing it.

 

[everlong]

What about just having the 7 people draft two different teams so we have 14 total. I wouldn't mind trying to build teams with two different methodologies just to see how they would come out. By the end of that draft there would be some interesting picks. There would be no trading with yourself.

I also think just starting the draft in a thread and letting it run for as long as it needs to might add people. Give a time limit such as 12 hours to make your pick or the person after you gets to make it. That way if somebody makes a 2AM pick an early riser would still have time to make their next pick. I imagine there will be points of down time and boredom but also times when picks go fast. It's also better than not doing it.

 

[Dingleberry]

What about just having the 7 people draft two different teams so we have 14 total. I wouldn't mind trying to build teams with two different methodologies just to see how they would come out. By the end of that draft there would be some interesting picks.

I also think just starting the draft in a thread and letting it run for as long as it needs to might add people. Give a time limit such as 12 hours to make your pick or the person after you gets to make it. That way if somebody makes a 2AM pick an early riser would still have time to make their next pick. I imagine there will be points of down time and boredom but also times when picks go fast. It's also better than not doing it.

Good point about a draft thread permanently ongoing. I would check in here multiple times daily if we had a draft going on.

A 12 hour window is more than fair.

 

[pazrul72]

What about just having the 7 people draft two different teams so we have 14 total. I wouldn't mind trying to build teams with two different methodologies just to see how they would come out. By the end of that draft there would be some interesting picks.

I also think just starting the draft in a thread and letting it run for as long as it needs to might add people. Give a time limit such as 12 hours to make your pick or the person after you gets to make it. That way if somebody makes a 2AM pick an early riser would still have time to make their next pick. I imagine there will be points of down time and boredom but also times when picks go fast. It's also better than not doing it.

This is a solid suggestion, gets you the people you need as 14 teams will require you to make choices, and gives you the time to build an entire roster. Might take a month to finish but what else is going on? I’m down for a format like this.

 

[pazrul72]

I'm thinking about waiting for a full roster. I'm just more intrigued by that. 11 v 11 will all have super teams with little difference between them. That said there's little interest. People would rather rebrand their **** post. I get it though it's a task.

Having set up my offensive board last night, took me 2 hours which was more than I was expecting, I disagree that there is enough depth at most positions to have 7 SUPER teams. Like a regular team there will be positions of strength and spots that are weaker than others based on choices made. Take RB for example there are clear tiers, tier 1 is only 3 deep with Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, and Walter Payton. They all have scores in the 80‘s, after that there is a group of 6 with scores in the high 50‘s and 60’s. Granted, OJ behind a HOF line is going to be a beast but he’s not special like those three. plus if they are going against a HOF defensive line it’s not a given he’s rushing for 2k yards. Just saying somebody has Wilfork, Ted Washington, and Hightower you aren’t rushing for ****.

TL;DR Most positions aren’t deep enough to make 7 SUPER teams with no weakness.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

What about just having the 7 people draft two different teams so we have 14 total. I wouldn't mind trying to build teams with two different methodologies just to see how they would come out. By the end of that draft there would be some interesting picks.

I also think just starting the draft in a thread and letting it run for as long as it needs to might add people. Give a time limit such as 12 hours to make your pick or the person after you gets to make it. That way if somebody makes a 2AM pick an early riser would still have time to make their next pick. I imagine there will be points of down time and boredom but also times when picks go fast. It's also better than not doing it.

I would be down for this. Very much what I'm looking for.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

Having set up my offensive board last night, took me 2 hours which was more than I was expecting, I disagree that there is enough depth at most positions to have 7 SUPER teams. Like a regular team there will be positions of strength and spots that are weaker than others based on choices made. Take RB for example there are clear tiers, tier 1 is only 3 deep with Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, and Walter Payton. They all have scores in the 80‘s, after that there is a group of 6 with scores in the high 50‘s and 60’s. Granted, OJ behind a HOF line is going to be a beast but he’s not special like those three. plus if they are going against a HOF defensive line it’s not a given he’s rushing for 2k yards. Just saying somebody has Wilfork, Ted Washington, and Hightower you aren’t rushing for ****.

TL;DR Most positions aren’t deep enough to make 7 SUPER teams with no weakness.

We disagree here. Specifically talking RB LT, AP & a few others are just as good if not better. Like im not taking anyone serious who thinks Jim Brown is better than AP lol. I would gladly take both over all 3. Those scores aren't garbage but they really don't mean much to me with respect. I'm definitely not taking them into account besides a great list of names. They still haven't made a RB more prototype than LT. I'm a Barry Sanders fan boy too but there's no world where Sanders > LT. People forget about how special he was.

I think we just differ in how this will come out. For example Wilfork is extremely high on my list but good luck convincing me him and Washington won't be gassed out by the end of the 3rd IF we were only doing starters. Those two would be great in the 1st half but a while game against Allstars?

Just speculating here but I think my RB list will look a lot different than yours. It's the deepest position in the draft by far. I just erased a bunch bc I don't want to give anything up but yea I don't anticipate picking a RB early. I think my list are just different.

And this is why the results will be fun!