Aaron Rodgers positive for COVID (update: “furious” status leaked, claims he didn’t lie, attacks NFL protocols)

[lancerman]

Living for this drama

 

[XLIX]

Ivermectin is approved for human use for a variety of treatments, and many studies have shown some level of effectiveness in treating COVID patients.

This statement is 100% true. I always raise an eyebrow or two when I see people ridicule it as merely a "horse dewormer." Anyone who resorts to that level of intellectual dishonesty should not be taken seriously. Yes, Ivermectin (like many drugs/treatments given to humans) also has uses for our four legged friends. Not only is it approved for human use for a variety of anti-viral applications, there have been actual real world clinical trials regarding its effectiveness against Covid (some of which are still ongoing).

I am not 100% sold on it with statistically significant certainty, but evidence of efficacy is there.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I’m glad to hear @oldrover ’s wife recovered.

There’s a large, controlled study coming from Oxford that should finally settle the Ivermectin question. The major study supporting it (Egypt) was acknowledged to be false and retracted; many of the studies were based on that study (think of a bottom domino being pulled out.)

This isn’t to say it doesn’t work, but it hasn’t met the burden of proof yet either, and the lack of proof to this point makes me skeptical, but who knows? Maybe there’s some therapeutic value to it. We’ll find out when they publish the results.

It’s used for horses but also for people…calling it horse dewormer is counter productive. We can inject Tylenol up a horse’s ass too, even though we take Tylenol.

Let’s move on and stay on topic.

Edit: I see I wrote almost the same thing as @XLIX … lol

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

I thought Aaron Rodgers was an entitled little ***** before, now, I think that he is an entitle little ***** and an incredibly dumb AND selfish ******* (and I am being polite).

 

[XLIX]

Edit: I see I wrote almost the same thing as @XLIX … lol

Yeah our posts in here tend to say the same thing.... now if only I could get you on the same page regarding tax policy....

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

And Rodgers went to Berkeley????????

 

[Tottie]

It's very sad to see people downvote a post from a guy telling HIS story as though they know what happened. The Portnoy thread is also an abomination. People can't think clearly and just **** on everything every which way.

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

Oh, and, let's have a friendly bet. I am CONVINCED the NFL won't suspend Rodgers.

The reason is very simple. The mother****er went full conspiracy theory on the air. He is going to be made a saint by the Tucker Carlsons of the World. They will make him a super martyr if the NFL punishes him. The NFL, the cowards that they are, won't want to go after a martyr and hurt their bottom line.

I guess Rodgers going full loony in public was somewhat calculated. I think he just made himself untouchable. He will claim freedom of expression if he gets punished.

**** this guy.

 

[Bill Lee]

And how would one possibly believe he’s been masking behind closed doors, given this reasoning?

He's lying. He's been photographed boarding the team plane and at team gatherings, so any claim of following other protocols is false.

He says he's been immunized. Well, to do that, you would have had to follow a procedure that made you immune, and he now has the virus.

He's a liar.

somewhere David Portnoy is raising a toast to Aaron Rodgers

Yeah, then passing the bottle to a 19 year old girl.

This mfer did compare himself to MLK

TMZ sez:

In fact, Rodgers actually quoted Martin Luther King Jr. -- saying, "The great MLK said, 'You have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules and rules that make no sense.'"

I'm no fan of this entitled douche bag, but IMO quoting someone is not comparing themselves to that person. I quote Stalin and Hitler from time to time, in no sense would I ever compare myself to them.

 

[Guts]

TMZ sez:



I'm no fan of this entitled douche bag, but IMO quoting someone is not comparing themselves to that person. I quote Stalin and Hitler from time to time, in no sense would I ever compare myself to them.

That's fair I was listening to the show while driving so was reacting how I was interpreting it. Thanks for the correction

 

[XLIX]

I'm no fan of this entitled douche bag, but IMO quoting someone is not comparing themselves to that person. I quote Stalin and Hitler from time to time, in no sense would I ever compare myself to them.

I think context matters. Often people make an argument by quoting a great individual who said the same (or similar) thing, or by comparing their situation to one faced by a great individual (as Rodgers is doing here). However, we also see people make arguments by quoting a despised figure supporting the opposite thing or comparing things an opponent has in common with a despised figure..

One of my faves....

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I quote Stalin and Hitler from time to time, in no sense would I ever compare myself to them.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

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I'm no fan of this entitled douche bag, but IMO quoting someone is not comparing themselves to that person. I quote Stalin and Hitler from time to time, in no sense would I ever compare myself to them.

Just for reference, can I ask what those quotes are? Asking for a friend..........

 

[XLIX]

I'm impressed that you didn't even read what you are linking. It's a study of studies (meta analysis) that, if you look them up, includes studies that have since been retracted for fraud. Whoopsie.

You obviously haven't been reading my posts (or, perhaps more likely, just aren't smart enough to understand them).

I do not believe with any degree of statistical certainty that Ivermectin works against Covid and I am not arguing that Ivermectin works against Covid. I am simply saying that, in the scientific community, it is a subject which has been (and is still being) studied and is taken very seriously by some very smart people. To ridicule it as merely a "horse dewormer" is intellectually dishonest (and intellectually bankrupt).

FACT: It is an FDA approved drug for use in humans. The fact that it also helps our animal friends is, quite honestly, not all that surprising since many other drugs do the same. My vet told me to give my dog OTC Benadryl. Does that mean people who take it should be ridiculed for taking dog medicine?

 

[Twentytothree]

If possible, let’s try to keep vaxx/Ivermectin debates out of this. There’s a thread in the pub for that.

We can stick with this: an alternative protocol was created for the exact situation where a player rejects the vaccines for whatever reason he chooses. The league did, in fact, make it possible for unvaccinated players to play.

Well, as he's consulting renowned scientist and medical authority Joe Rogan, all is good then

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

You obviously haven't been reading my posts (or, perhaps more likely, just aren't smart enough to understand them).

I do not believe with any degree of statistical certainty that Ivermectin works against Covid and I am not arguing that Ivermectin works against Covid. I am simply saying that, in the scientific community, it is a subject which has been (and is still being) studied and is taken very seriously by some very smart people. To ridicule it as merely a "horse dewormer" is intellectually dishonest (and intellectually bankrupt).

FACT: It is an FDA approved drug for use in humans. The fact that it also helps our animal friends is, quite honestly, not all that surprising since many other drugs do the same. My vet told me to give my dog OTC Benadryl. Does that mean people who take it should be ridiculed for taking dog medicine?

What you are saying may be true, but it is still a huge moral issue when dumbasses like Joe Rogan push people to take a drug that has not been proven to work against COVID. It leads to people using those drugs and taking TOO MUCH OF THEM which can lead to drastic consequences.

Aaron Rodgers saying he consulted Joe Rogan and adopted the treatment that idiot was suggesting is, at best, irresponsible.

 

[Fuzz]

You obviously haven't been reading my posts (or, perhaps more likely, just aren't smart enough to understand them).

I do not believe with any degree of statistical certainty that Ivermectin works against Covid and I am not arguing that Ivermectin works against Covid. I am simply saying that, in the scientific community, it is a subject which has been (and is still being) studied and is taken very seriously by some very smart people. To ridicule it as a "horse dewormer" is intellectually dishonest (and intellectually bankrupt).

FACT: It is an FDA approved drug for use in humans. The fact that it also helps our animal friends is, quite honestly, not all that surprising since many other drugs do the same. True story: My vet told me to give my dog OTC Benadryl. Does that mean people who take it should be ridiculed?

Except it is a dewormer and its most common application is for animals. Thats a fact. It just points to a fundamental misunderstanding of how medicine works. I am just going to state the obvious here - Covid is not a parasite.

 

[Bill Lee]

I think context matters. Often people make an argument by quoting a great individual who said the same (or similar) thing, or by comparing their situation to one faced by a great individual (as Rodgers is doing here). However, we also see people make arguments by quoting a despised figure supporting the opposite thing or comparing things an opponent has in common with a despised figure..

So, where do you feel Rodgers's quote of MLK fall in this spectrum? Personally I read it as him finding justification for doing his own thing, and not really saying his struggle is the same as MLK's.

Just for reference, can I ask what those quotes are? Asking for a friend..........

Actually not specifically the individuals I mentioned.

I sometimes compare things to the Nazi Great Lie theory, it often gives context to how/why certain politicians get away with some massive lies. I won't name names, but you can perhaps visualize a recent elected official who gave me more than one reason to bring up that theory.

I sometimes use various Marx/Lenin/Stalin (alleged) quotes, like "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic", "the only path to change is revolution", "the great is the enemy of the good", "religion is the opium of the people", etc. Things that show how people in power implement and/or rationalize their actions.

I took a sociology elective back in college days (early 80s) and the prof described himself as a committed revolutionary socialist. I still laugh about the guy, but perhaps I did pick up a few things from his class, who knows. He used to always wear the kind of white man explorer clothes you saw on Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom, like he was always prepared to drop everything and go join a revolution somewhere. He had to skip class once because he was going to some convention with like minded fellows in Philadelphia. I have to laugh when I picture a bunch of white college profs sitting around drinking coffee in Philadelphia scheming up revolutions. He had his chance, the Sandanista thing was going down back then, yet he chose to stick to teaching sociology at a state university instead.

 

[Bill Lee]

Dude complains about being the victim of cancel culture, yet he's cancelled his own mom, dad and brother.

What a douche.

Oh, and lest we forget, he could have just gotten jabbed in the off season like billions of other humans have, dealt with any side effects he was afraid of, and not be costing his team his services for one of the biggest games of the season this week.

If GB loses to KC, the L is on him, IMO.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Dude complains about being the victim of cancel culture, yet he's cancelled his own mom, dad and brother.

What a douche.

Oh, and lest we forget, he could have just gotten jabbed in the off season like billions of other humans have, dealt with any side effects he was afraid of, and not be costing his team his services for one of the biggest games of the season this week.

If GB loses to KC, the L is on him, IMO.

Best case scenario is they lose 51-48. I would like more than anything for a QB controversy to develop due to this, and I think it might happen.