DRAFT 2024 4th Round Pick - G Layden Robinson

[40yrpatsfan]

Our OT combination is going to be one of these, I believe:
a. LT Oko/RT Onwenu, with Anderson as 3rd tackle and Wallace as 4th tackle
b. LT Anderson/RT Onwenu, with Oko as 3rd tackle and Wallace as 4th tackle
c. LT Anderson/RT Oko, with Onwenu to LG and Sow to LG or a backup G (Wallace as 3rd tackle)

So I think we have 2 half-decent options at LT in Anderson and Oko. If Wallace can somehow beat out both of these guys then more power to him.

Profiles:
- Anderson is 28, 6'5/308, started 7 games at LT 2 years ago, very motivated & bright, low mileage. He's got a shot at getting the job.
- Okorafor is 26, 6'6/320, 6th year, started 59 games at RT, played LT in college. Solid vet who can probably play a decent LT.
- Onwenu is 26, 6'3/350, has played both RG and RT at a high level
- Wallace is 24, 6'5/314, rookie, played RT in college but his coach claims he can play LT
- Wheatley is 27, 6/6/320, career backup so far, maybe makes it as a backup. Lowe will be cut based on his performance last year.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

If all we had for LT were Oko and Wallace, it wouldn't be a solid solution. Anderson is the one who gives me some optimism about LT, with Oko as backup LT and Wallace in a red shirt year learning the position.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Certainly not an ideal situation, but I think they are making the best of a tough situation. It's a patchwork this year at LT, maybe we get lucky, but if not try again next year. It's a multi-year rebuild. I think its smart not to throw away money just because we have it. There's no one available worth it. Stay the course ... strike when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[PatsFan2]

I am not worried about our LT situation we should get someone decent from this trio Okorafor - Wallace and Anderson. That said a Good QB can make your OL look better than it actually is I really want Maye to Start.

 

[captain stone]

If the Jete guaranteed $6.5M to Tyron Smith, then this FO should've guaranteed him $7.5M.

And if they were too scared to draft Adonai Mitchell, then they should've drafted either Suamataia or Patrick Paul and waited for Polk at 68; or at the very least chosen Keiran Amagadjie at 68 and Wallace at 103 on Day 3, to more closely befit his proper draft value.

Smith - Mister Anderson - KS/PP/KA seems a lot more solid a foundation upon which to rebuild the position than Okie - Anderson - Wallace does, at least to these eyes... And if we miss-out on Robinson? Oh well; sign a vet off the street for cheap, problem solved.

 

[TomPatriot]

If the Jete guaranteed $6.5M to Tyron Smith, then this FO should've guaranteed him $7.5M.

Ancient and often injured though.

 

[captain stone]

Ancient and often injured though.

Yes he is; that's why the risk is only one year long.

 

[mgteich]

You are confusing things. Okorafor and Wallace are the moves that Wolf made to plug a huge hole at LT. Anderson, Lowe, and Wheatley were all signed by the previous GM. So the question is did Wolf do enough by signing Okorafor and drafting Wallace to plug the LT hole? To answer your question, NO, I do not think switching Okarafor and Wallace from RT to LT to try to plug the LT hole is doing enough. Especially when there is >$50M in cap space still available. I am surprised if anyone thinks Wolf did enough.

Polk will be a mid-level guy, good but not great, and not what you want with a second round pick. 2nd rounders should have a higher ceiling. Wallace in the 3rd round as a backup is absurd. 3rd rounders should be starters with potential upside.

OK, if we are not allowed to use healthy prospects from a past regime, then Anderson should be cut NOW so that he can play elsewhere. And yes, if Anderson, Wheatly and Lowe are in not in the picture, then VERY OBVIOUSLY, another OT or TWO should have been signed. Much more "IMPORTANTLY" IF Wolfe agreed with you, at least one more OT would have been signed.

If he stays, he is one of the 3 candidates for the two OT spots: starting LT and swing OT. And yes, if he is neither of those, then he is the #4 OT if we have one (as I believe we should).

 

[mgteich]

Yes he is; that's why the risk is only one year long.

You really wanted the often injured and ancient one instead of Okarafor? I guess Smith was the one key player to lift this team to compete for a division title.

You do understand that signing Smith, would likely mean signing a rookie backup, in case or draftee wasn't ready for prime time immediately.

Of course, if you were the GM, there would be no problem. The draftee would be an immediate starter and an all-pro candidate. Given that you are not, the choice was how to use minimal resources to plug the position for a year, understanding that the rookie might be able to step in, or not. Wolf chose to use Okorafor and Anderson as a pair to be competing with the rookie. I suppose I would be able to accept another pair of one-year fill-ins: Smith and another. I understand that for many the cap money is unlimited. For me, there was noo reason to pay more for Smith and another, instead of Okorafor and Anderson.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

You really wanted the often injured and ancient one instead of Okarafor? I guess Smith was the one key player to lift this team to compete for a division title.

You do understand that signing Smith, would likely mean signing a rookie backup, in case or draftee wasn't ready for prime time immediately.

Of course, if you were the GM, there would be no problem. The draftee would be an immediate starter and an all-pro candidate. Given that you are not, the choice was how to use minimal resources to plug the position for a year, understanding that the rookie might be able to step in, or not. Wolf chose to use Okorafor and Anderson as a pair to be competing with the rookie. I suppose I would be able to accept another pair of one-year fill-ins: Smith and another. I understand that for many the cap money is unlimited. For me, there was noo reason to pay more for Smith and another, instead of Okorafor and Anderson.

Smith got paid $2.5M more than Okoarfor so obviously his agent had a lot more interest around the league than Okorafor's agent. That is how it works in FA, the more interest in a player, the higher the asking and signing cost is. If you did not want Smith or Okorafor, then you are in a small minority, considering Smith got paid >50% more than Okorafor. Okorafor at LT is a low cost flyer, like Lowe, not a real option on a playoff bound team.

 

[mgteich]

Smith got paid $2.5M more than Okoarfor so obviously his agent had a lot more interest around the league than Okorafor's agent. That is how it works in FA, the more interest in a player, the higher the asking and signing cost is. If you did not want Smith or Okorafor, then you are in a small minority, considering Smith got paid >50% more than Okorafor. Okorafor at LT is a low cost flyer, like Lowe, not a real option on a playoff bound team.

Please repeat 10 times

AND WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF BOUND TEAM IN 2024

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Please repeat 10 times

AND WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF BOUND TEAM IN 2024

PLEASE REPEAT 10 TIMES

EVEN IF WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROMOTE A LOSER ATTITUDE AND TRY TO SUCK!!!!!!!

 

[mgteich]

PLEASE REPEAT 10 TIMES

EVEN IF WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROMOTE A LOSER ATTITUDE AND TRY TO SUCK!!!!!!!

fair enough

Thank you for further clarifying your opinion of team management competence.

It should help me put your comments in better focus on an ongoing basis.

 

[captain stone]

PLEASE REPEAT 10 TIMES

EVEN IF WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, WE DO NOT HAVE TO PROMOTE A LOSER ATTITUDE AND TRY TO SUCK!!!!!!!

More importantly, we also want to protect whoever our QB is better than we did last year.

 

[moosekill]

We could easily be a playoff team this year.

 

[Clonamery]

We could easily be a playoff team this year.

The adverb is unnecessary and creates a cynical response from me. Ain't nothing easy with a re-tread QB and a rookie QB with footwork issues.

 

[moosekill]

The adverb is unnecessary and creates a cynical response from me. Ain't nothing easy with a re-tread QB and a rookie QB with with footwork issues.

Cynical responses are often useless time wasters. We had a championship level defense along with a d3 college type qb. Our defense lost it's two best players midway through the season and our oline and wr's, already questionable suffered multiple season ending injuries. Our #1 rb was injured partway through the season and also lost for the season. We still were competitive in all be 3 of our games, and won 4 games. With mediocre qb play, and a little help from the injury gods, along with ok play from our new/healthy players, this team could easily make the playoffs. Of course not a certainty by any stretch but this is the NFL, teams go from playoffs to out of playoffs to back in playoffs every year. Very few teams with a defense like we had last year end up with 4 wins, and very few 4 win teams have a defense like we do. So I am hopefull.

 

[borg]

Patriots may have a rookie left tackle and rookie left guard protecting their rookie QB

Patriots rookie quarterback Drake Maye could have rookie linemen protecting his blind side this season.

www.nbcsports.com

 

[Zuma]

Patriots may have a rookie left tackle and rookie left guard protecting their rookie QB

Patriots rookie quarterback Drake Maye could have rookie linemen protecting his blind side this season.

www.nbcsports.com

Not even a mention about C. Anderson as a possible solution at LT in the entire article. Lame.

“It’s certainly no sure thing that Wallace and Robinson will earn the starting jobs there, but Wallace will get a chance to compete with veteran free agent arrival Chukwuma Okorafor at left tackle. ”

 

[Wozzy]

We could easily be a playoff team this year.

There's nothing "easy" in the NFL, but if healthy they could be a playoff team.

The Bills got weaker this offseason and I'm not sure the Dolphins, paper tigers last year, got any stronger. The Jests will implode like they always do.

Replacing Mac Jones with Brissett alone should win them 4 games minimum, health and a coaching staff walking in lockstep instead of fighting amongst each other should get them at or above ten wins. They already had a top five defense, they need to stay healthy and fix the offense.