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Patriots Pregame Thread 11/2/25 - Atlanta Falcons vs NE Patriots pregame thread

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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As I’ve said before, I’m just psyched one of them will lose. (Or should we be rooting for a tie?)

Screw the tie. The comet, we should be rooting for the comet
 
It’s not the 17 game schedule it’s the expanded wild card field. They needed to take away the second bye week to make the numbers work. They can’t just vote it back in without somehow changing the number of games being played.
Right! your right there.. to clarify what I mean is that.... The competition committee in wich BB was part off for years.. when the 17 game schedule went into effect the competition committee agreed to only give the bye to the 1 seed in each conference.. I was just staying we benefited from being 2nd seed over the years of having said bye week. I feel the top 2 seeds with the best records should still get a bye week. If I'm not mistaken we had the 2 seed in 2018?
 
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Interesting stat from Reiss how Maye is way above the field in tight window throws.

Maye is completing 62.2% of his passes on tight-window throws (23 of 37).
Maye's mark easily leads the NFL, followed by the Seahawks' Sam Darnold (48%) and Broncos' Bo Nix (43.3%).

Since 100% of his college throws in 2023 were tight windows, he's just maintaining his 63% or so accuracy LOL.
It is a huge advantage to have a guy that had to throw tight windows all the time in college.
The jump to tighter coverage in the NFL was not a change for Maye so success is not surprising.
 
Ok, but…we’re talking about who to root for in a third-party game. So “control” really isn’t on the table.

With all of the other top teams having to face each other multiple times and the Patriots only looking at one game against the Bills, the bye isn’t a totally unrealistic possibility. So if you’re looking at the best path not only to the playoffs but to the Super Bowl, rooting against KC is a reasonable choice. As I’ve said before, I’m just psyched one of them will lose. (Or should we be rooting for a tie?)


I believe we are talking about the same things.. just adding different takes.

As you've seen me post. The Patriots cannot control what other teams do. All they can do is control what they do. Is why I'm saying you don't root for Buffalo you root against them. Anything can happen. We can stumble drop a game here or there. I'm going to be paying attention to how we perform coming out the bye week. Winning your division should always be the first goal it guarantees you a berth and a home playoff game at the least. Of course Winning the 1 seed would be best!

Remember the last time we went on a stretch like this was 2021.. we folded coming out the bye week that season.
 
Libertarians are forming a national base headquarters and want to take over its Republican Party. I think this movement start in 2000.

Libertarianism began in 2000? Your awareness, such as it is, of libertarianism may have begun at that time, but the roots of that political perspective go back a matter of centuries. There was an unfortunate outbreak of pseudolibertarian faddism around the turn of the millennium, but thoughtful libertarians have little interest in that nor, for that matter, in the Libertarian Party, which is a pretty silly enterprise more committed to the sparking of doobies than to political thought.. You should look into the whole matter: it is very interesting. As a point of departure, you might look into Jefferson, our most intellectually interesting (and genuinely "radical") "founding father," whose classical liberalism may honestly be read as a sort of protolibertarian take on things.
 
...when the 17 game schedule went into effect the competition committee agreed to only give the bye to the 1 seed in each conference..

The 17 game schedule had nothing to do with eliminating the bye for a conference's 2nd place finisher. Expanding the playoff field to include an odd number of teams in each conference did. Maths can be hard...

 
We are still going on about Rhamondre? He is an adequate back, who is indeed good at passpro, and passpro is indeed important. He is also a fumble-prone back who is not, game-to-game, reliably productive. The facts - the data - on this are abundantly clear. It does not represent a lack of sophistication to take note of the obvious, as some poseurs here would have it. Rhamondre is an adequate back, overpaid as an elite back, easily to be replaced in due course, as I am frankly sure he will be. I would put the over/under on his remaining career as a Patriot at well under one year. I would certainly, in line with this, see him as a tradeable asset as the process of improving the roster goes on.
 
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Ok, but…we’re talking about who to root for in a third-party game. So “control” really isn’t on the table.

With all of the other top teams having to face each other multiple times and the Patriots only looking at one game against the Bills, the bye isn’t a totally unrealistic possibility. So if you’re looking at the best path not only to the playoffs but to the Super Bowl, rooting against KC is a reasonable choice. As I’ve said before, I’m just psyched one of them will lose. (Or should we be rooting for a tie?)
A tie would be acceptable I think. And hilarious.
 
Interesting stat from Reiss how Maye is way above the field in tight window throws.

Maye is completing 62.2% of his passes on tight-window throws (23 of 37).
Maye's mark easily leads the NFL, followed by the Seahawks' Sam Darnold (48%) and Broncos' Bo Nix (43.3%).

Since 100% of his college throws in 2023 were tight windows, he's just maintaining his 63% or so accuracy LOL.
It is a huge advantage to have a guy that had to throw tight windows all the time in college.
The jump to tighter coverage in the NFL was no
That skill or lack thereof may have worked against Mac Jones. His receiving corps at Alabama was so good, especially at getting separation, he never had to learn that skill. That may be true of other Bama QBs as well (e.g. Tua). Hurts is not the greatest at it but he too has an elite receiving corps.
 
A tie would be acceptable I think. And hilarious.

You're not wrong, a tie would be both acceptable and hilarious. A comet would also be acceptable from an outcome standpoint, hilarious... not so much. It's not often I fail to consider the more humorous possibility...

Okay, I'm in on the tie
 
I think that both our run game and our pass game (more passes, shorter early, deeper passes late) are both going to shine today. So I suppose that means I am predicting a blowout. Why not? We have resumed our Dynasty, have we not?

Edit: I just looked at the prediction thread. I see a lot of scores in the 30's vs. teens range, which is where i am: 34-13.
 
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I think that both our run game and our pass game (more passes, shorter early, deeper passes late) are both going to shine today. So I suppose that means I am predicting a blowout. Why not? We have resumed our Dynasty, have we not?
I’m hoping for Henderson to outperform Robinson.

If that happens we can win, I’m hoping the player stepping in for Dugger holds their own out there.
 
Ok, but…we’re talking about who to root for in a third-party game. So “control” really isn’t on the table.

With all of the other top teams having to face each other multiple times and the Patriots only looking at one game against the Bills, the bye isn’t a totally unrealistic possibility. So if you’re looking at the best path not only to the playoffs but to the Super Bowl, rooting against KC is a reasonable choice. As I’ve said before, I’m just psyched one of them will lose. (Or should we be rooting for a tie?)
I feel the same way. Everyone is back on KC’s jock and I would love to see them taken down a peg or two. But winning the division seemed so unlikely six weeks ago and it IS right in front of us so it’s hard for me to not focus on that intellectually.
 
Screw the tie. The comet, we should be rooting for the comet
To clarify, I'm simply talking about the 17 game schedule. There is only one bye week alloted to the top seed in the conferences for playoff seeds.

Prior to this there was bye weeks given to both 2 seeds in the conferences.

These were the years we were the #2 seed in the playoffs and got a bye week.

Obviously this is no longer the case with a 17 game schedule. This is all was saying. Sorry for any confusion with my post.
 
We must stop Atlanta’s outside zone with Bijan, or it’ll be a long day.
 
I’m hoping for Henderson to outperform Robinson.

If that happens we can win, I’m hoping the player stepping in for Dugger holds their own out there.
I'm having a hard time trying think of one play of impact Dugger made this season. That there should tell us everything. Another thing of note. Dugger, peppers and Bentley who were all starters here past few seasons are now practice squad and back ups in Pittsburgh.
 
The 17 game schedule had nothing to do with eliminating the bye for a conference's 2nd place finisher. Expanding the playoff field to include an odd number of teams in each conference did. Maths can be hard...

The NFL owners and NFLPA voted as part of the 2020 CBA contract to expand to a 17 game schedule and eliminate the 2nd seed playoff bye.

My post was about how it should come back as it does benefit teams that make it to the top of their conferences. Just my opinion..
 
Interesting stat from Reiss how Maye is way above the field in tight window throws.

Maye is completing 62.2% of his passes on tight-window throws (23 of 37).
Maye's mark easily leads the NFL, followed by the Seahawks' Sam Darnold (48%) and Broncos' Bo Nix (43.3%).

Since 100% of his college throws in 2023 were tight windows, he's just maintaining his 63% or so accuracy LOL.
It is a huge advantage to have a guy that had to throw tight windows all the time in college.
The jump to tighter coverage in the NFL was not a change for Maye so success is not surprising.

Polar opposite of Mac. Tight window in college for him was 3 yards of separation.
 
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