Should they give Culpepper, Holcomb, Rattay or Weinke a call?

[PATRIOT64]

I am not worried about the preseason but with the uncertainty of what is going on with Brady and whether it is his injury on his foot from last year or the other foot this year is driving me crazy especially knowing its obvious that the 3 QBs remaining on the roster are either too green as in O'Connell and Guiterrez or just not NFL caliber as in Cassel.

I think its a no brainer that the coach will at least give one of those available Veteran QBs out there a hard look and maybe give them a call this week - If so who would you like to see them showing interest in if any?

Daunte Culpepper
Tim Hasslebeck
Kelly Holcomb
Jared Lorenzen
Jamie Martin
Craig Nall
Tim Rattay
Brian St. Pierre
Chris Weinke
Lester Ricard

In terms of not only being a veteran but a QB with some experience at the starting job are the 4 QBs - Culpepper,Weinke,Holcomb and Rattay

Of those guys I would rather see Holcomb get a call since I think he had a few decent games and Culpepper if he can prove he is not totally immobile,even if he was are the guys we have now any better?

Gutierrez is probably going to make it,O' Connell maybe too but you never know what BB is thinking right now and bringing in one of these veterans is not such a bad idea IMO

 

[unoriginal]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Always liked Rattay as a backup, but this team doesn't really seem to like short QBs, Flutie excepted.

Still I think it may be too late to bring in a backup QB.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Always liked Rattay as a backup, but this team doesn't really seem to like short QBs, Flutie excepted.

Still I think it may be too late to bring in a backup QB.

It is late but desperate times for desperate measures

I mean there is no way BB could have known Cassel was going to be this horrid thereby leaving #2 spot open to a 3rd round rookie and an erratic Guiterrez - I had my doubts last week thinking Cassel may have just had a nervous game,but 2 in a row horrible performances has me knowing he is made to hold the clipboard and this team does not need that - we need an emergency guy who can play.

 

[wdkantro2]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Would not mind Rattay in here. The guy has produced every chance he's gotten but still can't hold a backup job. It'd be fun to have the guy we barely chose Brady over backing him up 9 years later.

 

[JFK]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I honestly think we are good wit O'Connell as #2. Unless u want guit out.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Tim Rattay yes .. No for Daunte Culpepper since he still feels he is a starter..

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Would not mind Rattay in here. The guy has produced every chance he's gotten but still can't hold a backup job. It'd be fun to have the guy we barely chose Brady over backing him up 9 years later.

I was thinking that earlier but hasn't Rattay been out of the league last year after getting cut early or we he still on a roster at week 16?

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I honestly think we are good wit O'Connell as #2. Unless u want guit out.

Throwing a 3rd round rookie out there in an emergency against high powered teams in a regular season game is like going swimming in shark infested waters with bloody steaks glued to all of your body skin -

In other words way too dangerous and a killing is inevitable -

Tom Brady like guys who come in like he did in 2001 are too rare of a player to even think its possible with O'Connell,Give the kid time and he may be O.K.in a year or two,too early to even have a clue on him right now.

 

[unoriginal]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

It is late but desperate times for desperate measures

I mean there is no way BB could have known Cassel was going to be this horrid thereby leaving #2 spot open to a 3rd round rookie and an erratic Guiterrez - I had my doubts last week thinking Cassel may have just had a nervous game,but 2 in a row horrible performances has me knowing he is made to hold the clipboard and this team does not need that - we need an emergency guy who can play.

Not really on the same wagon most of the other posters on this board are on. We didn't scheme for this game and Tampa did. After the first drive, though Cassel never looked very pretty, he made better decisions and some good throws. Unlike O'Connell, he wasn't always leading his receiver into defenders.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I would call Flutie out of retirement before I called those stiffs. But I bet Moss would not mind Culpepper getting some look.

 

[signbabybrady]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

maybe????

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Gutierrez is probably going to make it,O' Connell maybe too but you never know what BB is thinking right now and bringing in one of these veterans is not such a bad idea IMO

:wha: How many kinds of stupid would the Patriots have to be to cut O'Connell, or try to sneak him onto the PS? We're talking about the highest draft pick the Pats have used on a QB since Drew Bledsoe. If that doesn't send a message to other teams, I don't know what would. There is zero, I repeat zero chance that O'Connell gets cut, unless he suddenly goes all Pacman Jones.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Not really on the same wagon most of the other posters on this board are on. We didn't scheme for this game and Tampa did. After the first drive, though Cassel never looked very pretty, he made better decisions and some good throws. Unlike O'Connell, he wasn't always leading his receiver into defenders.

That was my take, too. It looks as if he really needs to get a full game of work in if they're going to keep him at #2. I stated in the game thread that they should have him play the whole 4th game if they keep him as the #2, so he can settle into better habits.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

:wha: How many kinds of stupid would the Patriots have to be to cut O'Connell, or try to sneak him onto the PS? We're talking about the highest draft pick the Pats have used on a QB since Drew Bledsoe. If that doesn't send a message to other teams, I don't know what would. There is zero, I repeat zero chance that O'Connell gets cut, unless he suddenly goes all Pacman Jones.

Stranger things have happened in NE - - No such thing as ZERO chance unless you are running the team and know it already.

While its probably 90% chance O'Connell is here in September if he goes out in the next preseason game and throws 5 picks you never know.

 

[Jimke]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I am not worried about the preseason but with the uncertainty of what is going on with Brady and whether it is his injury on his foot from last year or the other foot this year is driving me crazy especially knowing its obvious that the 3 QBs remaining on the roster are either too green as in O'Connell and Guiterrez or just not NFL caliber as in Cassel.

I think its a no brainer that the coach will at least give one of those available Veteran QBs out there a hard look and maybe give them a call this week - If so who would you like to see them showing interest in if any?

Daunte Culpepper
Tim Hasslebeck
Kelly Holcomb
Jared Lorenzen
Jamie Martin
Craig Nall
Tim Rattay
Brian St. Pierre
Chris Weinke
Lester Ricard

In terms of not only being a veteran but a QB with some experience at the starting job are the 4 QBs - Culpepper,Weinke,Holcomb and Rattay

Of those guys I would rather see Holcomb get a call since I think he had a few decent games and Culpepper if he can prove he is not totally immobile,even if he was are the guys we have now any better?

Gutierrez is probably going to make it,O' Connell maybe too but you never know what BB is thinking right now and bringing in one of these veterans is not such a bad idea IMO

All of the above.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

All of the above.

So what you are saying is you did not really like the play of the backup QBs tonight eh?

 

[Rob0729]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I have said for a few weeks now that I have thought that Cassel would be cut and the Pats would get another veteran QB and potentially carry four QBs. So I am on the side that they do either scoop up a veteran out there or make a trade.

I vote no to Culpepper though right off the bat. I wouldn't mind them trying to coax Trent Dilfer out of retirement, but he might rather stick with his media gig over at ESPN than hold a clipboard. Rattay might not be bad.

BTW, I think the Hefty Lefty is currently on the Colts' roster.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

I have said for a few weeks now that I have thought that Cassel would be cut and the Pats would get another veteran QB and potentially carry four QBs. So I am on the side that they do either scoop up a veteran out there or make a trade.

I vote no to Culpepper though right off the bat. I wouldn't mind them trying to coax Trent Dilfer out of retirement, but he might rather stick with his media gig over at ESPN than hold a clipboard. Rattay might not be bad.

BTW, I think the Hefty Lefty is currently on the Colts' roster.

According to NFL.com those QBs are still available unless it was not updated just recently but it looks to be right up to date to my knowledge.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Stranger things have happened in NE - - No such thing as ZERO chance unless you are running the team and know it already.

While its probably 90% chance O'Connell is here in September if he goes out in the next preseason game and throws 5 picks you never know.

Oh, strange things have happened, but nothing that stupid. Seriously--name the last time BB cut a third-round pick this soon.

Again, if they had used a sixth or a seventh on him, I'd agree with you. But they didn't. They used a third-round pick on him, which suggests they saw something they really liked. As others have pointed out, there were other players at other positions available, but they chose to use the pick on O'Connell. Why on earth would they spend that much capital, so to speak, on him, and then give up in one offseason? As I said before, the only way he can get cut is if he screws up off the field.

 

[BAM!]

Re: Should they give Culpepper,Holcomb,Rattay or Weinke a call?

Desperate times = desperate measures.

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