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Ben Brown and Erick Hunter Signed to the 53

You're the one with issues. You're decided to be a complete ass with your responses. You should probably STFU with your stupidity of threats. I'd treat you like the f'in clown you are if I ran into you running your mouth the way you are here. If you threw a punch, you'd regret it for the rest of your life.
I never throw 1st cupcake i throw last
 
For **** sake go outside and touch some grass….or doobie if need be
 
No idea. It will be even more perplexing if Brown doesn't dress for the 1st three games of the season.

There has got to be more to this than just losing almost 500K to protect the last player on the roster.

They still had one more preseason IR available.

Hope someone who covers the team figures this out.
 
So why would they do this?

To protect Woods or Morton from going through waivers???

I don't get the move.

Anyone?
It’s an accounting measure. They didn’t have him an extra 500k, they just accelerated a cost that was hitting them no matter what.
 
There has got to be more to this than just losing almost 500K to protect the last player on the roster.

They still had one more preseason IR available.

Hope someone who covers the team figures this out.
The team's most likely decisions were (as noted by @rabidfireweasel and @Ring 6):

1. They didn't want to release someone who would have to go through waivers, so they released vets with 4 years who were automatically FAs.The vets most likely agreed to the release and agreed to return.
2. They didn't pay an extra $500k, they only paid the $500k early which was nice because the player was being loyal to the team by being released and promising to return.
3. There are only 8 total season IR/NFIs (designated to return). The preseason allows 2 IR/NFIs, but those preseason designations count towards the 8 total. So the team did not want to use a preseason IR/NFI if they didn't have to because they want to save their IR designations in case they need them later.

Got it?
 
Did not think our Special Teams (kick off and punt groups) were a strength last year, nothing so far in the preseason has made me change my mind.
Can Jalen Reed and Erick Hunter be helpful in that phase of the game?
 
Did not think our Special Teams (kick off and punt groups) were a strength last year, nothing so far in the preseason has made me change my mind.
Can Jalen Reed and Erick Hunter be helpful in that phase of the game?
Latu.
 
Did not think our Special Teams (kick off and punt groups) were a strength last year, nothing so far in the preseason has made me change my mind.
Can Jalen Reed and Erick Hunter be helpful in that phase of the game?
I think a bunch of the guys just signed are ST guys. Hunter, Reed, Latu, Britt to the PS, and the Giants LB (forgot his name).
 
The team's most likely decisions were (as noted by @rabidfireweasel and @Ring 6):

1. They didn't want to release someone who would have to go through waivers, so they released vets with 4 years who were automatically FAs.The vets most likely agreed to the release and agreed to return.
2. They didn't pay an extra $500k, they only paid the $500k early which was nice because the player was being loyal to the team by being released and promising to return.
3. There are only 8 total season IR/NFIs (designated to return). The preseason allows 2 IR/NFIs, but those preseason designations count towards the 8 total. So the team did not want to use a preseason IR/NFI if they didn't have to because they want to save their IR designations in case they need them later.

Got it?
Good laydown of constraints - rules

The one other factor (was alluded to in Pats Unfiltered podcast) was that the 31-waiver wire priority had them in a bit ‘harder to forecast’ position. They needed a mechanism to ensure they could take the successful waivers. [edit: but weren’t sure ANY would pass.] They were lining up vets like this (I assume) IN CASE the waiver wire came thru. 2 did. According to one source they put in AT LEAST 3 waivers, but lost on one [a LB] (1+?).

IF TRUE ….. Makes me wonder, WHO WAS THE THIRD vet who they could cut & bring back as required
 
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Good laydown of constraints - rules

The one other factor (was alluded to in Pats Unfiltered podcast) was that the 31-waiver wire priority had them in a bit ‘harder to forecast’ position. They needed a mechanism to ensure they could take the successful waivers. They were lining up vets like this (I assume) IN CASE the waiver wire came thru. 2 did. According to one source they put in AT LEAST 3 waivers, but lost on one [a LB] (1+?).

IF TRUE ….. Makes me wonder, WHO WAS THE THIRD vet who they could cut & bring back as required
Not surprised it was a LB.
 
The team's most likely decisions were (as noted by @rabidfireweasel and @Ring 6):

1. They didn't want to release someone who would have to go through waivers, so they released vets with 4 years who were automatically FAs.The vets most likely agreed to the release and agreed to return.
2. They didn't pay an extra $500k, they only paid the $500k early which was nice because the player was being loyal to the team by being released and promising to return.
3. There are only 8 total season IR/NFIs (designated to return). The preseason allows 2 IR/NFIs, but those preseason designations count towards the 8 total. So the team did not want to use a preseason IR/NFI if they didn't have to because they want to save their IR designations in case they need them later.

Got it?
To clarify the 500k wasn’t a payment, it was an accounting entry. It’s the prorated cap hit of the already paid signing bonus. Brien received the money up front. The cap charge is spread over the length of the contract with 500k charged to 2027. It gets accelerated when he is released. No money changed hands, no extra cost was incurred, the only change was money paid up front and pushed to the future in cap accounting was shifted from a 2027 cap cost to a 2026 cap cost.
 
Good laydown of constraints - rules

The one other factor (was alluded to in Pats Unfiltered podcast) was that the 31-waiver wire priority had them in a bit ‘harder to forecast’ position. They needed a mechanism to ensure they could take the successful waivers. [edit: but weren’t sure ANY would pass.] They were lining up vets like this (I assume) IN CASE the waiver wire came thru. 2 did. According to one source they put in AT LEAST 3 waivers, but lost on one [a LB] (1+?).

IF TRUE ….. Makes me wonder, WHO WAS THE THIRD vet who they could cut & bring back as required
Looks like it was Hunter, and after they got the other 2 they pulled back the claim because they didn’t have roster spots yet for 3
 
There are only 8 total season IR/NFIs (designated to return). The preseason allows 2 IR/NFIs, but those preseason designations count towards the 8 total. So the team did not want to use a preseason IR/NFI if they didn't have to because they want to save their IR designations in case they need them later.

Wasn't aware. Thought they were separate.

To clarify the 500k wasn’t a payment, it was an accounting entry. It’s the prorated cap hit of the already paid signing bonus. Brien received the money up front. The cap charge is spread over the length of the contract with 500k charged to 2027. It gets accelerated when he is released. No money changed hands, no extra cost was incurred, the only change was money paid up front and pushed to the future in cap accounting was shifted from a 2027 cap cost to a 2026 cap cost.

So it essentially is the reverse of what we usually see which is guaranteeing money to push cap in the future.
 
To clarify the 500k wasn’t a payment, it was an accounting entry. It’s the prorated cap hit of the already paid signing bonus. Brien received the money up front. The cap charge is spread over the length of the contract with 500k charged to 2027. It gets accelerated when he is released. No money changed hands, no extra cost was incurred, the only change was money paid up front and pushed to the future in cap accounting was shifted from a 2027 cap cost to a 2026 cap cost.
Thanks for correcting me.
 

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