DRAFT Welcome to New England - Illinois Edge Gabe Jacas! (2nd round, #55)

[reflexblue]

Campbell is taller and heavier than Tunsil, Williams and Sewell (by an inch/a few pounds). Prototypical LT size, except for the wingspan.

I' not saying he can't do the job at LT, i always felt he could. But i will say he needs to get into the wgt room. Even though he was about 320lbs a lot of that wgt is flubber. I remember he took his shirt off during a celtics game and vrable comment he New England Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel joked about firing the team's strength coach after seeing a viral video of rookie offensive tackle Will Campbell taking his shirt off and chugging a drink at a Boston Celtics game.
Now back to jackass..i mean jacass

 

[scott99]

I saw a video of WC working out with about a half dozen pro bowl LT tackles at a summer camp. He looked like a midget in comparison. They all were physically bigger and looked much stronger

He’s 6’6” 320, the other linemen must all be 6’9” and 350 pounds.

 

[reflexblue]

He’s 6’6” 320, the other linemen must all be 6’9” and 350 pounds.

Must have been the camera angle

 

[Sect140]

What is your allegation about “ apparent non-disclosure of injuries” based on?

Disagreement about terms of the participation agreement seems unrelated to disclosure. I doubt details of customized participation agreements are routinely discussed pre-draft. Seems much more likely the team surprised Jacas and his agent by changing the terms from the standard participation agreement. We have no way to know whether that changes was made in response to some undisclosed information regarding the injury or procedure, but it seems irresponsible to assume it was without evidence. So, what is that evidence?

On my walk this morning I listened to the Tom Curran & Phill Perry podcast, they admitted it’s been hard to get information on the situation, from what they pieced together the Pats didn’t offer the camp injury waiver that states if you get injured in camp you still get paid, they mentioned they did this because of an injury/surgery that wasn’t revealed to the team, if any of that is true to me that’s the agent saying we shouldn’t tell the team and a young man believing his agent is doing what’s best for him.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I' not saying he can't do the job at LT, i always felt he could. But i will say he needs to get into the wgt room. Even though he was about 320lbs a lot of that wgt is flubber. I remember he took his shirt off during a celtics game and vrable comment he New England Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel joked about firing the team's strength coach after seeing a viral video of rookie offensive tackle Will Campbell taking his shirt off and chugging a drink at a Boston Celtics game.
Now back to jackass..i mean jacass

A very high % of Olineman look like that with their tarp off.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Remember the Shemar Stewart dispute last off-season? After all that , he plays 8 games with a whopping 1 sack and gets a knee injury by week 8 of the season. Holds out rarely end well for players. He, his agent and the Pats need to get this done quickly.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Remember the Shemar Stewart dispute last off-season? After all that , he plays 8 games with a whopping 1 sack and gets a knee injury by week 8 of the season. Holds out rarely end well for players. He, his agent and the Pats need to get this done quickly.

Agreed on getting it done quickly, priority #1.
Stewart was highly unproductive in college, he was drafted on projection and athletic profile.
He may well have struggled even without a holdout.

 

[reflexblue]

A very high % of Olineman look like that with their tarp off.

I agree with you that many o-lineman do look mostly fat upper body wise. I remember seeing Dan Koppen standing on the sidelines without his shirt or pads during a game and wondering how he could be so good, he had No muscle definition, just flabby. I was never trying to start a discussion about campbelle, ive never posted a negative word about him, he did a fine job a lt tackle until he got hurt.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Translation: He has some sort of pre-existing injury, and we are damned if we are going to give him a guarantee for anything related to that injury. We'll give him the standard guarantee based on his slot, but we want some sort of an exclusion for his pre-existing injury.

 

[Grogan14]

No comp pick for Pats if Jacksss sits out year and re enters draft next year

Inexcusable mistake on front office part

Plus they traded up to get him

Vrabel as head man deserves blame if this happens

Lack of due diligence before the draft

Can not temember last time a front office messed up a draft pick like this and walked away with nothing

 

[TheRainMaker]

No comp pick for Pats if Jacksss sits out year and re enters draft next year

Inexcusable mistake on front office part

Plus they traded up to get him

Pats have until August 10 to trade Jacas if this continues to not go anywhere.

 

[Ring 6]

Remember the Shemar Stewart dispute last off-season? After all that , he plays 8 games with a whopping 1 sack and gets a knee injury by week 8 of the season. Holds out rarely end well for players. He, his agent and the Pats need to get this done quickly.

That was about what he produced in college. Terrible terrible pick.

 

[Ring 6]

No comp pick for Pats if Jacksss sits out year and re enters draft next year

Inexcusable mistake on front office part

Plus they traded up to get him

Vrabel as head man deserves blame if this happens

Lack of due diligence before the draft

Can not temember last time a front office messed up a draft pick like this and walked away with nothing

Maybe he should agree to sign and then Welch on it.
I wonder if he could tell the Patriots he will never play for them and then change his name and sign with them?

Of course this is a stellar posts to follow up Vrabels “it will get done, I’m positive it will” comment right above it.

The names may chamber big the ignorance remains.