Will Campbell's a God

[Huckleberry1]

Didn't upset me at all and I appreciate the back and forth. But you are pretty delusional about the evaluation process, so I am just letting you have it.

Scouts and coaches pay attention to how a player wins and loses because that allows them to put together a development plan. During the predraft process they are looking at every play to see a players ability and not just the result of the play

I'm fine with the back and forth as well , it isn't nasty, we just disagree. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go have a good cry.

 

[maust]

I'm fine with the back and forth as well , it isn't nasty, we just disagree. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go have a good cry.

 

[State]

Joe Thomas arms are 33 1/2, he was a first ballot Hall of Famer. You are talking out of your ass again.

Not his arm length.

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[Huckleberry1]

Not his arm length.

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You're right, I was off by 1/4 inch, which is less than the length of my pinkie nail. Now go to the interview he did on Campbell, he says the arm length isn't an issue and that he's going to be a really good left tackle. I'm sure you won't do that though, as you can't handle being wrong. You should go see if you can get a job at the combine measuring fingernails, because that's the difference we are actually talking about.

 

[State]

You're right, I was off by 1/4 inch, which is less than the length of my pinkie nail. Now go to the interview he did on Campbell, he says the arm length isn't an issue and that he's going to be a really good left tackle. I'm sure you won't do that though, as you can't handle being wrong. You should go see if you can get a job at the combine measuring fingernails, because that's the difference we are actually talking about.

Snark much? Facts are stubborn things.

 

[Water Boy]

This seems like a common feeling right now so I wanted to respond. I'm not trying to pick on any one person. I really just want to give anyone who didn't spend a lot of time watching college tackles pre-draft some hope.

I'm really surprised people feel like Lomu is a consulation prize rather than the best left tackle in the draft. When I say "best" I don't necessarily mean highest ceiling (I continue to think Kadyn Proctor's physical makeup and athleticism are generationally rare - but tons of guys with those traits have still failed at the NFL level), I mean safest pick - his skills translate... footwork, size, strength, anchor, mobility, hand technique, and awareness are all there. There were never any question marks about work ethic, character, or level of competition in college. The guy IS an NFL left tackle - plain and simple.

Because there were no physical, performance, character, or mental flaw scouts/media could pick apart his one critique (which just cost him 15 draft spots and millions of dollars) somehow became that he's not mean enough? This was the kind of lazy group-think analysis worthy of a JRE guest. I don't really understand how NFL scouts compared the tape of Miller or Iheanachor to Lomu and come away thinking even though they can't compete against NFL skill and athleticism they're somehow better because they pancaked a guy who's going to be selling cars next year, but to each their own I guess.

Basically what I'm saying is some lineman are bulldogs and that's freaking awesome and fun to watch, and some are clinicians and that's awesome too. Lomu is probably more of the latter, but without the foundational attributes and skills he's ALREADY bringing to the table no one really has a chance be a career NFL left tackle.

But don't take my word for it... just watch the kid...

I fell into the group think on Lomu and the preconceived notion that you want your right tackle to be a road grader with pancake blocks in his tape. Especially with Vrabel wanting the offense to be stronger and more physical.

He is a very good technician.

 

[State]

Excellent insight from Pyper from Long Island on a different thread on draft day three guys. I agree with every word.

There is a shortage of OT's and especially LT's in the league. As the Chargers found out last season, a couple of injuries can ruin your season. I think Lomu might have more long term potential at LT but he's only 21 yrs old. WC will be our LT this year and moving forward until he gets beat out. But if he gets injured, we now have a guy we can plug in that won't tank our season.

Crownover provides the same depth at RT and OG. Long term, he replaces Moses at RT and WC may very well become our LG. We've completely revamped our Oline in 2 years. This unit is finally poised to become a strength of the team.

 

[TheRainMaker]

It's not a theory it's physical domination. When you face the elite Edge athletes in the NFL every extra advantage they have on you will be fully exploited. Campbell was responsible for giving up 3 sacks and 5 pressures against Garrett who rung up 5 total sacks on the day and put Maye under duress all day long.



Just a reminder, Drake Maye suffered the MOST sacks EVER in a playoff run in the history of the NFL. We drafted OL in the 1st for a reason.

I hope Campbell fully recovers and proves he can be a full time Left tackle in the NFL. But I wouldn't be surprised either if the Patriots changed his position for the good of the team and Drake Maye's health.

Matt Light had this same problem people still ignore to this day. When guys like Jason Taylor, Aaron Schobel, Robert Mathis, Dwight Freeney, Joey Porter, etc. got isolated with Light in obvious passing downs - they'd completely expose him. These plays went unnoticed because the Pats as a team had the upper hand where the scheme protected him along with others. The rest of the time Light was solid against mediocre to good pass rushers.

With that said, Myles Garrett looks superhuman in that clip. But the concerns many of us have had with Campbell are in that video alone. He gets overpowered and pushed back by a lot of pass rushers - not just Garrett. He has to get stronger at the point of attack as defenses are going to keep trying the sled drill with him until it stops.

By the way, Campbell is taking most of the blame, but the entire O-line was pretty bad in 2025. Posters seem to be in denial over that as well.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Snark much? Facts are stubborn things.

Stupid much?

Oh, wait, that's not a question, we already know that you're an idiot. And you are idiot who pretends to know more about offensive line play that a first ballot HOF tackle.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Excellent insight from Pyper from Long Island on a different thread on draft day three guys. I agree with every word.

Laugh my ****ing ass off. You ignore Joe Thomas, and Pyper on Long Island is the resource you cite. What's next Angelo from Everett? Maybe Frank from Gloucester. Oh, wait, I know, Dakota from Braintree.

 

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