Patriots Rumor Is Mike’s job security in danger? (Vrabel + Russini)

[Rob0729]

Florio mentioned this could get too loud for Vrabel especially if the sharmuta Russini starts talking. This could force him to step away for a bit or the entire season.

With that said, you know Josh McDaniels is watching this very closely. In fact, he’s always wanted to take over for BB, so this could be his chance.

And the worst part for Mike is that if Josh does well, Vrabel will never get his job back. See Terrell Williams losing his job after his time away from illness.

My guess is Russini will make her soon to be ex-husband the villain in her story. She obviously cares for Vrabel. She probably won't throw him under the bus.

 

[TheRainMaker]

This affair wasn’t just a one-time thing. Based on their interactions, IMHO these two people seem to genuinely care for each other to some extent.

Maybe the public reveal of the affair threw a wrench into that but I don’t get the impression that Russini is going to try and destroy Vrabel.

It's not about destroying Vrabel, it's about protecting herself. Her reputation was already shaky after the McLaughlin incident and she's got a history of sleeping around as previously discussed in this thread.

My guess is Russini will make her soon to be ex-husband the villain in her story. She obviously cares for Vrabel. She probably won't throw him under the bus.

 

[sb1]

It's not about destroying Vrabel, it's about protecting herself. Her reputation was already shaky after the McLaughlin incident and she's got a history of sleeping around as previously discussed in this thread.

Oh yeah her reputation is already in the toilet. She's already publicly trashed her husband many times I don't think she has a lot of credibility anyway right now.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Pretty much the definition of an affair.

We still don't know anything about what the wife knew or didn't know.



C'mon man, we have people in much more powerful positions worldwide right now that have far worse skeletons in their closet yet it's business as usual for them and for us.

Out of respect for the site's policies on politics, I'll let you fill in the rest.

It's not business as usual for them. Those people in powerful positions actively make decisions based on the skeletons in their closet. They release or don't release certain information in certain files and prosecute people who did wrong per those files based on whether they themselves are also exposed of wrongdoing in those files. it's the definition of letting their skeletons affect them. Hypothetically speaking of course lol

 

[XLIX]

It's not about destroying Vrabel, it's about protecting herself.

Be that as it may, if she’s planning to tell-all, she can still spin things (or leave certain things out) which portray Vrabel one way or another.

I have no doubt she could make things very difficult for him if she wanted. Hell hath no fury. But if they’re still amiable, she could go easy on him.

 

[1960Pats]

Pretty much the definition of an affair.

We still don't know anything about what the wife knew or didn't know.



C'mon man, we have people in much more powerful positions worldwide right now that have far worse skeletons in their closet yet it's business as usual for them and for us.

Out of respect for the site's policies on politics, I'll let you fill in the rest.

True, but we don't even have to go there. We can stick with football and find other players, coaches or even owners as examples.

The jets had a guy named Cromartie who had 8 kids with multiple mamas and couldn't even name all of his kids. He got to play for 11 years without a problem.

Didn't the Indy owner get caught with drugs and a dead woman? Nothing to see there.

What about the Browns QB who was looking at two dozen cases of sexual assault. He got punished by the NYFL with a 250 million dollar contract to cover his potential losses.

The current bs with Vrabel reminds me very much of the Antonio Brown situation. Not a word was said about AB's transgressions while with Pittsburgh but as soon as he came to the Pats all the stories came out.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

He had a six plus year affair. It is obviously not a random lustful affair.

And you have no idea how this will affect him. Some people can compartmentalize their lives. I know of people who can deal with dying spouses (or having a terminal illness themselves) while continuing to work and if you didn't know what they were going through, you wouldn't know they were dealing with adversity.

And how do we know that Vrabel and his wife don't open relationship and he is allowed to date other people? I don't care about his private life, but his wife could have always known about Russini.

We are over two months away from training camp. Odds are good that this will all be over by then.

I don't "know" their marriage wasn't open but that seems incredibly unlikely based on him missing a day of the draft for counseling. You'd have to pretend common sense doesn't exist for that to be the case IMO.

And you're not really disproving my point by saying he could compartmentalize. The fact he has anything to compartmentalize in the first place means it's effecting him as a person, whether that's outwardly noticeable to others or not. I guess maybe I said his demeanor when I should have said his mental wellbeing/focus. That will affect him, and therefore the team, however it does. But to preted this is going to have no impact on Vrabel at all is silly IMO.

Reporting on this may end in two months, but the ramifications of his 6 year affair on his personal life and the mental space that consumes in his head is not ending in two months. That's silly. He's obviously going to be carrying more personal baggage with him this year and it's devoid of common sense to pretend otherwise. How that affects him will be how that affects him.

 

[Rob0729]

It's not about destroying Vrabel, it's about protecting herself. Her reputation was already shaky after the McLaughlin incident and she's got a history of sleeping around as previously discussed in this thread.

What could she have on Vrabel that wouldn't make herself look bad in the process? The only way she could protect herself by throwing Vrabel under the bus would be to claim he pressured her to sleep with him which is clear he didn't. Any detail about the affair that would make him look bad would likely make her look bad too. If he used the relationship to leak stories to the media through her, it is worse for her than him.

The only way she will hurt Vrabel is if she knows she is screwed and will never work in media again and just wants to burn everything down and completely destroy her reputation and any chance of ever working again while bringing down Vrabel. I don't see that the case at this point. There is evidence she is looking to go that route.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

My guess is it's Vrabel.

And who the hell let's their wife or husband rent a boat by themselves.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

"I don't give a flying elvis who my head coach has affairs with, and I don't give a flying elvis what the media says. If anything it'll make his job even more secure. I already had two first round draft picks stolen from me for no reason at all so everyone can go flying elvis themselves."

- not said by Bendover Bob

...is this better?

 

[Rob0729]

I don't "know" their marriage wasn't open but that seems incredibly unlikely based on him missing a day of the draft for counseling. You'd have to pretend common sense doesn't exist for that to be the case IMO.

And you're not really disproving my point by saying he could compartmentalize. The fact he has anything to compartmentalize in the first place means it's effecting him as a person, whether that's outwardly noticeable to others or not. I guess maybe I said his demeanor when I should have said his mental wellbeing/focus. That will affect him, and therefore the team, however it does. But to preted this is going to have no impact on Vrabel at all is silly IMO.

Reporting on this may end in two months, but the ramifications of his 6 year affair on his personal life and the mental space that consumes in his head is not ending in two months. That's silly. He's obviously going to be carrying more personal baggage with him this year and it's devoid of common sense to pretend otherwise. How that affects him will be how that affects him.

The day of counseling may not have been about his wife. It could be about his kids. Even if they had an open relationship, I am pretty sure it was kept from his kids. I know his kids are older, but they could have needed time to deal with it.

And I don't need to disprove your point because it is all conjecture on your part. You have no idea how this will affect him. Neither do I. We don't know if it will affect him one iota at work or not affect him at all. To say otherwise is just utter BS. Everybody deals with things differently. But the guy had a multiyear affair and if it was behind his wife's back, he had no issue with any guilt of the cheating and all the sneaking around to affect his job. Why would this be any different.

Head coaches lives in the NFL are all consuming towards the job. Coaches sleep in their office a lot. To be a head coach, you typically have to sacrifice your personal life. It destroys marriages all the time. That is why most head coaches, at least the successful ones, are usually wired differently. So Vrabel may be the type of guy of when he is at work, it is 100% Patriots and that is all.

 

[RxJock1120]

Show me a rumor that the Patriots players are turning on Vrabel. Just a rumor. Every player who has spoke publicly about this issue have given strong statements of support of Vrabel. The team loves Vrabel. It could be a problem for another coach, but Vrabel is a coach that has his team willing to run through walls for him. Those types of coaches are not going to derail because of this.

I agree there are none, players are backing him and in my opinion and hope is that Vrabel stays for a long time. Perfect HC for our team.

But it wouldn't be the first time that media derailed a coaches career and got him fired/resign.

Kraft has previously stuck with BB during controversial times, and Kraft record for side chicks/rub and tugs is not clean. Hope he has the full faith in Mike as was his public statement.

 

[Pape]

New logo alert
Finally…so nostalgic..

that is ****ing funny ... you win the internet today

 

[Pape]

damn... Gary Hart & Donna Rice... someone has been using the wayback machine

 

[Boomer B]

What could she have on Vrabel that wouldn't make herself look bad in the process? The only way she could protect herself by throwing Vrabel under the bus would be to claim he pressured her to sleep with him which is clear he didn't. Any detail about the affair that would make him look bad would likely make her look bad too. If he used the relationship to leak stories to the media through her, it is worse for her than him.

The only way she will hurt Vrabel is if she knows she is screwed and will never work in media again and just wants to burn everything down and completely destroy her reputation and any chance of ever working again while bringing down Vrabel. I don't see that the case at this point. There is evidence she is looking to go that route.

She had an affair with Vrabel for at least 6 years. She likely cares for him. I can’t see her going scorched earth on Vrabel.

That being said, now that her career is likely done as an NFL reporter, I could see her writing a book and going scorched earth on the NFL. She probably knows a lot of the inside secrets.

 

[Bill Lee]

damn... Gary Hart & Donna Rice... someone has been using the wayback machine

I don't feel so bad about my Watergate reference now.

 

[DarrylS]

A tad bit of difference Hart was an elected Senator who at one time ran for the Presidency, don't want to delve into politics but consider the hx of our current president.
This thread reeks of the spillover from Sports Talk radio... much ado about nothing, it is one of those "behind closed door" things..

 

[ViperGTS]

My God that's some twisted logic. If someone has been done wrong then they must have pissed someone off.

As for infidelity, I've seen many cases over the years where people were cheating and everyone knew but nobody said anything to them or their spouses. But then there was the case of Edith, the mother of one of our friends who was sitting with us at our local hangout years ago.

One of the married guys was sitting there with another woman sitting on his lap and hanging all over him. All of a sudden Edith couldn't take it any more and snapped, telling John Doe to get home with his wife where he belonged. And to top it off, John Doe's brother-on-law was sitting two seats away.

Twisted logic? Why do you think some politicians get outed and the majority don't. It's because the ones that don't play ball, the ones that get outed don't.

 

[Grogan14]

Prediction

Vrabel will not be fired but will voluntarily resign
For his family’s sake

 

[XLIX]

A tad bit of difference Hart was an elected Senator who at one time ran for the Presidency, don't want to delve into politics but consider the hx of our current president.

Anything someone says before “but” is horseshit, as demonstrated above.

Hart paved the way for Clinton. Clinton paved the way for everyone else.