Patriots Rumor A.J. Brown trade rumors heat up - Should Patriots get him?

[Toofy]

I don't know if diggs is the best use of allowing our players to develop. We saw Boutte flatline through mid of season, pop regressing and Williams not having an option, inability to play Chism.

We have 4 young guys ( pop,Boutte, Chism and Williams ) of which 2 could be the future . If that's the case no point allowing diggs to eat into snaps and their playtime. I don't see a future for diggs in 2026.

We got into the super bowl this year . Will diggs help us win it in 2026 or beyond?
Probably not. We need to build the team in trenches and across swathe of rookies, low tier high potential FA and all pro level free agents in 4-5 positions . 2025/26 is more like 2021 where we spent a lot and got real good contributions and we exceeded expectations due to coaching this year and some injury and scheduling luck. No point over extending on that and becoming like commanders. We have Maye rookie contract but 2026 is not the year to win the ring it's maye's 4th year where we have a realistic chance and for that we need a core group of 25 odd players who have played at least 15 games leading to 2027 season.

This season we might revert to 2022 form if we continue to believe 2025 was because of all these individuals we added

. Regression should be expected from older players and progression from younger players. So build the base for 2027 and fill gaps in 2027 through free agency when the vets leave or contracts are done ( Moses , hollins , landry, davis , barmore , Henry etc. ) .

We need to ascertain whether Boutte is wr 2 or wr3.

Can Maye elevate no name received if line is above average. That would be my objectives for this year.

Get likely as TE2 with heavy performance based incentives. Draft a TE or X receiver across 3rd and 4th rounds and let them develop. Use first round to get RT of future is Bryant is not the one.

Free agency - resign chaisson , Hawkins , Tonga and munford and sign likely and Henderson / linderbaum whoever is available.

Diggs can leave and check if landry contract dead cap can be reduced this year. Diggs is a 15-17 million a year player not 27 million.

 

[upstater1]

Read a factoid this morning that EVERY Super Bowl winning QB played with a Hall of Famer on his team.

That might not surprise you. It's a team sport after all.

But then this was added: Dan Marino never played with another Hall of Famer on the team.

Hmmmm....

AND then this: Josh Allen would've been headed to Marino territory had they not signed Von Miller a few years back.

 

[Real fan 02]

I believe you are right, and I also believe that he won't be a model citizen if it becomes about money.

Probably. I'd say he's got 1-2 more good seasons.

Now you're talking!

Diggs is a smart guy.. he knows he'll have to revise his current deal.. but I remember hearing phill perry mentioning the team can easily get out his current deal.. so to your point if they can't get to a number then probably best both part ways...

I'm thinking the AJ Brown deal is something imminent.. Vrabel I'm sure also probably will have his eyes on the Brian Thomas Jr situation as well.

Secure the #1.. use the draft to even out the roster.. I like wolf's thinking.. they aren't in a rebuild they are looking to build on last season to be able to manage the roster and keep the team competitive.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't know if diggs is the best use of allowing our players to develop. We saw Boutte flatline through mid of season, pop regressing and Williams not having an option, inability to play Chism.

We have 4 young guys ( pop,Boutte, Chism and Williams ) of which 2 could be the future . If that's the case no point allowing diggs to eat into snaps and their playtime. I don't see a future for diggs in 2026.

We got into the super bowl this year . Will diggs help us win it in 2026 or beyond?
Probably not. We need to build the team in trenches and across swathe of rookies, low tier high potential FA and all pro level free agents in 4-5 positions . 2025/26 is more like 2021 where we spent a lot and got real good contributions and we exceeded expectations due to coaching this year and some injury and scheduling luck. No point over extending on that and becoming like commanders. We have Maye rookie contract but 2026 is not the year to win the ring it's maye's 4th year where we have a realistic chance and for that we need a core group of 25 odd players who have played at least 15 games leading to 2027 season.

This season we might revert to 2022 form if we continue to believe 2025 was because of all these individuals we added

. Regression should be expected from older players and progression from younger players. So build the base for 2027 and fill gaps in 2027 through free agency when the vets leave or contracts are done ( Moses , hollins , landry, davis , barmore , Henry etc. ) .

We need to ascertain whether Boutte is wr 2 or wr3.

Can Maye elevate no name received if line is above average. That would be my objectives for this year.

Get likely as TE2 with heavy performance based incentives. Draft a TE or X receiver across 3rd and 4th rounds and let them develop. Use first round to get RT of future is Bryant is not the one.

Free agency - resign chaisson , Hawkins , Tonga and munford and sign likely and Henderson / linderbaum whoever is available.

Diggs can leave and check if landry contract dead cap can be reduced this year. Diggs is a 15-17 million a year player not 27 million.

Agreed. But Linderbaum is 18-20 million.. I really don't believe Vrabel's gonna commit so much for an undersized Center.. when we can allocate that to other holes in the roster..

 

[TheRainMaker]

Read a factoid this morning that EVERY Super Bowl winning QB played with a Hall of Famer on his team.

That might not surprise you. It's a team sport after all.

But then this was added: Dan Marino never played with another Hall of Famer on the team.

Hmmmm....

AND then this: Josh Allen would've been headed to Marino territory had they not signed Von Miller a few years back.

This doesn't make sense because nobody plays with players voted into the HOF while they are still playing. Marino played with eventual HOF's such as Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas.

By the time Buffalo signed Miller, he was cooked. And he's not voted into the HOF yet.

What is interesting is how badly Miami's defense was beaten down in playoff games in the late 90's - early 2000's. Denver slapped them around beating them by 35 in 1998, Jacksonville completely embarrassed them hanging 55 (62 total) points on them, Oakland beating them by 27 in 2000 and Baltimore beating them by 17 in 2001. That was the end of their run.

 

[Family]

Read a factoid this morning that EVERY Super Bowl winning QB played with a Hall of Famer on his team.

That might not surprise you. It's a team sport after all.

But then this was added: Dan Marino never played with another Hall of Famer on the team.

Hmmmm....

AND then this: Josh Allen would've been headed to Marino territory had they not signed Von Miller a few years back.

Diggs will make the hall.

 

[Toofy]

Agreed. But Linderbaum is 18-20 million.. I really don't believe Vrabel's gonna commit so much for an undersized Center.. when we can allocate that to other holes in the roster..

He is a stud and you don't need to think about that position . Maybe you can play brown next to him and Campbell and have solid pass protection and run protection and zone runs. Yes this means wilson becomes moot .

You should not keep paying 8-12 million for other team mid level talent in free agency. It mostly does not work out. If we have a solid oline, we don't need to have superstar receivers. Maye can elevate mid tier wide receivers and help develop rookie receivers . We should have veteran salary only for 2 wide receiver positions remaining should be rookies or vet minimum folks .

2027 is the big year . Build the base for that now .

 

[upstater1]

This doesn't make sense because nobody plays with players voted into the HOF while they are still playing. Marino played with eventual HOF's such as Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas.

By the time Buffalo signed Miller, he was cooked. And he's not voted into the HOF yet.

What is interesting is how badly Miami's defense was beaten down in playoff games in the late 90's - early 2000's. Denver slapped them around beating them by 35 in 1998, Jacksonville completely embarrassed them hanging 55 (62 total) points on them, Oakland beating them by 27 in 2000 and Baltimore beating them by 17 in 2001. That was the end of their run.

Yes, I wonder where the hell the talking heads came up with that fact.

Honestly, Taylor deserves it but I was always surprised that Zach Thomas made it.

 

[Real fan 02]

He is a stud and you don't need to think about that position . Maybe you can play brown next to him and Campbell and have solid pass protection and run protection and zone runs. Yes this means wilson becomes moot .

You should not keep paying 8-12 million for other team mid level talent in free agency. It mostly does not work out. If we have a solid oline, we don't need to have superstar receivers. Maye can elevate mid tier wide receivers and help develop rookie receivers . We should have veteran salary only for 2 wide receiver positions remaining should be rookies or vet minimum folks .

2027 is the big year . Build the base for that now .

Good points... however I feel Baltimore offensive scheme and dominate running game had so much to do with it.. Linderbaum is a good player but I don't think we should sink so much cap into the position unlike OTs.. we need to have a calculated approach. Drafting and adding some depth from a veteran in FA is likely the way... the skill position is where your going to really have to pay for talent...also keep in mind we have to extend gonzo..

There are other options more viable to beef up the center position.. additionally I don't think he's leaving Baltimore. On paying guys.. talent cost simply put.. you Draft a guy and he turns out to become an all pro caliber then guess what you're going to have to pay him.. or tag him. You're right we don't need superstars at wr but you need play makers.. I'll also say I'm leaning towards the TE position being upgraded look at what josh Allen can do with his TEs..

 

[Toofy]

Good points... however I feel Baltimore offensive scheme and dominate running game had so much to do with it.. Linderbaum is a good player but I don't think we should sink so much cap into the position unlike OTs.. we need to have a calculated approach. Drafting and adding some depth from a veteran in FA is likely the way... the skill position is where your going to really have to pay for talent...also keep in mind we have to extend gonzo..

There are other options more viable to beef up the center position.. additionally I don't think he's leaving Baltimore. On paying guys.. talent cost simply put.. you Draft a guy and he turns out to become an all pro caliber then guess what you're going to have to pay him.. or tag him. You're right we don't need superstars at wr but you need play makers.. I'll also say I'm leaning towards the TE position being upgraded look at what josh Allen can do with his TEs..

I just said if we were to pay vets, the only option I see is linderdaum . Stef diggs defly 8 million overpriced but he might not agree. I think we owe him 9 million and we should try to restructure his deal such that he makes 10 million guaranteed and another 6 million in incentives and. Reduce cap hit this year to 16-18 where we move some of the 9 million this year and some of it for 2027 and 2028. So essentially a 2 year deal at 40 million with huge guarantees for the last 6 million. Of that 40 million 34 million is mostly guaranteed which includes last year pay as well as the 9 million gtd money that we owe him From original contract
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[Real fan 02]

I just said if we were to pay vets, the only option I see is linderdaum . Stef diggs defly 8 million overpriced but he might not agree. I think we owe him 9 million and we should try to restructure his deal such that he makes 10 million guaranteed and another 6 million in incentives and. Reduce cap hit this year to 16-18 where we move some of the 9 million this year and some of it for 2027 and 2028. So essentially a 2 year deal at 40 million with huge guarantees for the last 6 million. Of that 40 million 34 million is mostly guaranteed which includes last year pay as well as the 9 million gtd money that we owe him From original contract
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Right but like I just said you're sinking 18-20 million annually into Linderbaum.. is that what you want to do?? He's not a LT.. that's OT money... I mentioned about Diggs and his contract revise should be about 8m with with escalators, bonus, and guaranteed money.. Linderbaum isn't leaving Baltimore why would he? That scheme is geared around that running game and the caliber of athletes they have on the line.. we have a spread offense.. game plan offense...a capable running game but nothing like Baltimore has as they committ to it.. what I summized from wolf is we will make sensible signings and looking to extend guys.. I don't see a regression the plan is to add to the roster and keep the team competitive..

 

[Toofy]

Right but like I just said you're sinking 18-20 million annually into Linderbaum.. is that what you want to do?? He's not a LT.. that's OT money... I mentioned about Diggs and his contract revise should be about 8m with with escalators, bonus, and guaranteed money.. Linderbaum isn't leaving Baltimore why would he? That scheme is geared around that running game and the caliber of athletes they have on the line.. we have a spread offense.. game plan offense...a capable running game but nothing like Baltimore has as they committ to it.. what I summized from wolf is we will make sensible signings and looking to extend guys.. I don't see a regression the plan is to add to the roster and keep the team competitive..

Maye needs to develop the short and Intwrnediate game. Without that we are not going anywhere. Teams will just start to blitz the hell out as Drake will not take the short yards.

Without that aspect developing we are definitely bound to see some regression.

Secondly the schedule is real hard which means we don't have much rooms for slip ups. We could afford some slip ups and come back in games last year but not this year . Drake will need to show he can comeback and mount a 2 minute drive he did it once I believe, but we need more. Young and Williams have more comebacks than Maye and that's a weakness for now .

We overachieved last year . This year will hinge a lot on development of williams , Campbell and henderson.

 

[mgteich]

I don't know if diggs is the best use of allowing our players to develop. We saw Boutte flatline through mid of season, pop regressing and Williams not having an option, inability to play Chism.

We have 4 young guys ( pop,Boutte, Chism and Williams ) of which 2 could be the future . If that's the case no point allowing diggs to eat into snaps and their playtime. I don't see a future for diggs in 2026.

We got into the super bowl this year . Will diggs help us win it in 2026 or beyond?
Probably not. We need to build the team in trenches and across swathe of rookies, low tier high potential FA and all pro level free agents in 4-5 positions . 2025/26 is more like 2021 where we spent a lot and got real good contributions and we exceeded expectations due to coaching this year and some injury and scheduling luck. No point over extending on that and becoming like commanders. We have Maye rookie contract but 2026 is not the year to win the ring it's maye's 4th year where we have a realistic chance and for that we need a core group of 25 odd players who have played at least 15 games leading to 2027 season.

This season we might revert to 2022 form if we continue to believe 2025 was because of all these individuals we added

. Regression should be expected from older players and progression from younger players. So build the base for 2027 and fill gaps in 2027 through free agency when the vets leave or contracts are done ( Moses , hollins , landry, davis , barmore , Henry etc. ) .

We need to ascertain whether Boutte is wr 2 or wr3.

Can Maye elevate no name received if line is above average. That would be my objectives for this year.

Get likely as TE2 with heavy performance based incentives. Draft a TE or X receiver across 3rd and 4th rounds and let them develop. Use first round to get RT of future is Bryant is not the one.

Free agency - resign chaisson , Hawkins , Tonga and munford and sign likely and Henderson / linderbaum whoever is available.

Diggs can leave and check if landry contract dead cap can be reduced this year. Diggs is a 15-17 million a year player not 27 million.

 

[mgteich]

Sure, let's get of rid of our top 2 WR's and depend on Boutte, Pop, Williams and Chism.

Instead of an OK WR corps (much better with an upgrade of Pop), we'd have one of the worst among playoff teams, and a team weakness for years to come.

 

[mgteich]

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2027 is the big year . Build the base for that now .

ROFL
We just played in the SB and we need 2 more years for it to be the big year.
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The future is NOW.

Sure, we should add 2-3 top players as will all those team we are competing with for the AFC Championship and SB.

We should NOT be focusing on 2027 or 2028.

 

[TommyD4207]

ROFL
We just played in the SB and we need 2 more years for it to be the big year.
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The future is NOW.

Sure, we should add 2-3 top players as will all those team we are competing with for the AFC Championship and SB.

We should NOT be focusing on 2027 or 2028.

It is reasonable to expect they take a small step back next year.
Their injury luck this season was pretty insane.

 

[The Gr8est]

I know, it’s crazy, they want to have good receivers.

Worked for Cincinnati.




Oh wait!!!!

 

[Real fan 02]

Maye needs to develop the short and Intwrnediate game. Without that we are not going anywhere. Teams will just start to blitz the hell out as Drake will not take the short yards.

Without that aspect developing we are definitely bound to see some regression.

Secondly the schedule is real hard which means we don't have much rooms for slip ups. We could afford some slip ups and come back in games last year but not this year . Drake will need to show he can comeback and mount a 2 minute drive he did it once I believe, but we need more. Young and Williams have more comebacks than Maye and that's a weakness for now .

We overachieved last year . This year will hinge a lot on development of williams , Campbell and henderson.

I pay very little attention to the schedule toof.. you know why.? The teams that we are slated to play may not have the same roster by the time the 2026 season starts and also there's always a team that doesn't/does live up to the billing..

We play who we play.. that doesn't bother. Me.. we've heard this year in and year out.. going back to the mid 200ps teams.

You're 100 correct on the short and intermediate game.. Drake has shown he can do it but his natural instincts is to make a big play.. going into his 3rd season i believe we see more of that.

We need to get more playmaker abilities out the TE position that will allow the intermediate passing game to thrive.

We got better as year went on and that's a sign of good time...

 

[Rob0729]

 

[Ring 6]

I don't know if diggs is the best use of allowing our players to develop. We saw Boutte flatline through mid of season, pop regressing and Williams not having an option, inability to play Chism.

We have 4 young guys ( pop,Boutte, Chism and Williams ) of which 2 could be the future . If that's the case no point allowing diggs to eat into snaps and their playtime. I don't see a future for diggs in 2026.

We got into the super bowl this year . Will diggs help us win it in 2026 or beyond?
Probably not. We need to build the team in trenches and across swathe of rookies, low tier high potential FA and all pro level free agents in 4-5 positions . 2025/26 is more like 2021 where we spent a lot and got real good contributions and we exceeded expectations due to coaching this year and some injury and scheduling luck. No point over extending on that and becoming like commanders. We have Maye rookie contract but 2026 is not the year to win the ring it's maye's 4th year where we have a realistic chance and for that we need a core group of 25 odd players who have played at least 15 games leading to 2027 season.

This season we might revert to 2022 form if we continue to believe 2025 was because of all these individuals we added

. Regression should be expected from older players and progression from younger players. So build the base for 2027 and fill gaps in 2027 through free agency when the vets leave or contracts are done ( Moses , hollins , landry, davis , barmore , Henry etc. ) .

We need to ascertain whether Boutte is wr 2 or wr3.

Can Maye elevate no name received if line is above average. That would be my objectives for this year.

Get likely as TE2 with heavy performance based incentives. Draft a TE or X receiver across 3rd and 4th rounds and let them develop. Use first round to get RT of future is Bryant is not the one.

Free agency - resign chaisson , Hawkins , Tonga and munford and sign likely and Henderson / linderbaum whoever is available.

Diggs can leave and check if landry contract dead cap can be reduced this year. Diggs is a 15-17 million a year player not 27 million.

Yes, our best WR has value and dumping him because you want to see if young guys who aren’t as good could play is nuts.
2025 ABSOLUTELY was because of the players we added. Not sure how anyone could dispute that.
Maye already elevated no name receivers.