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PostGame Thread 2025 OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots fall 29-13 to the Seahawks

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Actually it was infuriating…Milton DID get pressure a ton but ran right past Darnold. To Darnold’s credit he was the opposite of Maye and pretty masterful at moving around.

If people want to talk about a consistent issue with the Pats this season, it's actually that we generated a lot of pressure and broke into very sackable situations, yet often failed to finish the play. That works when you have a bad QB who is gonna feel pressure and let it phase him.

I honestly thought that our play in the post-season suggested we had fixed it. I was wrong.

Even Vrabel mentioned this in a few post-game pressers.

Edit- I do want to say that the pressure would lead to incompletes, but when the other team is sacking the **** out of you and winning, every yard of a sack goes a long way for you. There were plays where Darnold simply didn't let his team lose yards, and in the SB, every. single. yard. counts. You leave a lot on the table if you get sacked when you had time to get rid of it.
 
Actually it was infuriating…Milton DID get pressure a ton but ran right past Darnold. To Darnold’s credit he was the opposite of Maye and pretty masterful at moving around.
At least he was playing hard and with a purpose.
 
The biggest takeaway from the last month of playoff football is Jared Wilson is more of a center than a guard and Will Campbell looks small and out of his depth at LT against the good pass rushers.

Drake can get better with playoff experience we've seen countless QBs have elite regular seasons and drop playoff stinkers and come back and play well the next time, you can't learn small arms and built like a guard.
 
Easy schedule. They outscored the Jets and Dolphins by a combined 80-20 to end the season to skew their point total and give us false hope. They scored 67 points in 4 playoff games (16.75 points a game). Maye didn’t play well since those 2 games.
Easy schedule is BS.
It applies comparing 9-8 and 8-9. It does not apply to 14-3 teams that win 3 playoff games.
The defenses they faced were not a weak schedule.
 
Pats had a fantastic season when most in the media and even fans here thought they'd be among the worst in the league.

The OL and the offense finally got exposed and there was too much to overcome.

The defense played fantastic as long as they could, but it was like the Bart Scott joke earlier this week "We'd give the offense the ball at the opponent's 10 yard line and we'd end up punting".

Milton Williams and the pass rush had a rough night. He and a few others would beat their guy, but they couldn't close the deal and get to Darnold. Would it have made a difference if Williams got 3 sacks tonight like he should of? Probably not.

Christian Gonzalez settled the debate of drafting him or JSN. He played a great game tonight knocking down passes. He's getting paid this offseason.

Craig Woodson was another guy who stood out tonight. He's a willing downhill tackler.

As I stated in the Campbell thread, I'm seriously concerned about him. Prior to his injury, he's got a lower body strength problem that was ignored. He easily gets bull rushed into Maye which pretty much wrecks the play. Moving him to G as many want will not solve that problem. He needs to build strength or work on his technique.

They have to figure out what to do with Jared Wilson because he was awful all season.

Owenu will return at his number because cutting him will create another need on the OL they can't afford.

Rham did his best during the postseason and protected the ball well, but he's just very meh. They need a better bell cow back.

Drake Maye had a great 2nd season and was the runner up to MVP. However, he's got a lot to work on. I've said it before and say it again, he's got the same release speed no matter how fast a defender is coming at him. He always throws it as if he's playing in a 7 on 7. This is what's causing so many strip sacks.

The OL was so bad, the Pats need to seriously consider taking Diggs money at his number and apply it towards the OL. He has a $28M cap number and is owed $23.5M for 2026. That's way too much for a slot guy at his age who barely mustered 1,000 yards in a 17 game season. It's even worse when you break down his biggest games of the season. He's just not the same guy he was in Minnesota or Buffalo who was one of the best man beaters in the league. He's the exact opposite now being dead to rights when anyone mans up on him. I would be shocked if he returns.

Pats need to get more athletic at the TE position. And I'm tired of seeing Henry dropping passes.

Last but not least, the late 2015 game plan by McDaniels was infuriating. Collinsworth sensing early on that the offense was just playing not to lose so the defense could win it made me sick to my stomach. McDaniels has had this problem his entire career either turtling whenever he faces a talented defense or if there's an injury or two on offense.
 
We need to fix the O Line this off-season. Coming back with the same problem would not be acceptable. Protect Maye and he can do magic
 
Easy schedule is BS.
It applies comparing 9-8 and 8-9. It does not apply to 14-3 teams that win 3 playoff games.
The defenses they faced were not a weak schedule.
Easy schedule is ******** because it's the NFL and bad teams beat good ones every week so winning 14 games is hard regardless of schedule but maybe we learned the weakness of the OL wasn't truly exposed until it faced the elite defensive lines then it was glaring.
 
Maye got an injection in his right throwing shoulder before `the game. So he was injured and had pain. That likely impacted his ability to put zip on the ball in tight windows. Maybe that is why he was slow to throw in the pocket? Because his shoulder was bothering him he had to wait extra time for receivers to get good separation.
 
Maye got an injection in his right throwing shoulder before `the game. So he was injured and had pain. That likely impacted his ability to put zip on the ball in tight windows. Maybe that is why he was slow to throw in the pocket? Because his shoulder was bothering him he had to wait extra time for receives to get good separation.
Sam are you welching on your bet?
 
Do we make the Super Bowl if Bo Nix doesn’t go down?
Yes. All week we were beat upside the head about the drop-off from Nix to Stidham being about as minimal as it gets. Nobody gets to change the narrative about it now
 
Yes. All week we were beat upside the head about the drop-off from Nix to Stidham being about as minimal as it gets. Nobody gets to change the narrative about it now
I mean I don’t think I ever said that but maybe others did
 
Did Darnold have that pocket presence at 23 and in year 2? He damn sure didn’t.

I am starting to believe that Maye is a QB who cannot overcome pocket awareness issues. Similar to Mac Jones when he played for the Pats.

We all clearly saw how badly he kept hanging onto the ball throughout the playoffs, just begging for him to toss it away.

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Unfortunately the game played out as predicted. The better team won. The Pats OL was overwhelmed all game, the WR group was not able to consistently get separation and the inexperienced QB was never able to get comfortable. A sad end to an otherwise incredible season. Congrats to the team for getting to the championship game.

There is little time to reflect with the team getting a late start on year 2 of the rebuild. The upside is that this experience should make it clear where better talent is needed going into the compressed off season.

I don’t believe the Seahawks were better. I promise you if Maye had just given them great field position from the fumble and interception, the Seahawks be scoreless on both drives.

Maye was the reason the team lost. Maye decided to turn into Cam Newton from Super Bowl 50.

If Maye had just got rid of the ball (even if the we could not convert) it would’ve been a different outcome.
 
defense was very good but did give up 131 to walker.
Walker is sooo good at stepping to the middle of the Line and then bouncing to the outside, the ends crashed down and were not able to reset the edge. I think they still did a great job this season and this game. There are a handful of RBs that can bounce like Walker.
 
If only we could get FCB to do a bet and f.o,.....he is second coming of NEM
Can hardly make a post without ****ting on Josh McDaniels. Tiresome, but he does seem passionate tbf, but still ....
 
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