NFL News Belichick not voted into the HOF

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Brady is getting first ballot for sure. Different situation completely

 

[lancerman]

I don’t think people hate Brady like they hate Belichick. Even some of Brady’s haters came around after he left NE.

The media absolutely does not hate Brady the way they hate Belichick. Like it's not even close. If Bill was not known as adversarial with the media and journalists, we wouldn't even be talking about Spygate or any other possible reasons why they would do this to him. They'd just say "meh it's Bill Belichick, why are we debating". It's like I said, a last chance to get a pound of flesh while they still can before he's beyond their reach forever.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

The amount of pettiness in this damn league is stunning. People hold on to grudges to get back at someone during the Hall of Fame vote.

Never underestimate the self interest and pettiness of grown and successful men

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Then their reasoning is BS. Can't have it both ways.

Oh it’s 100% ******** and he should be first ballot

 

[Delicate Genius]

Seriously? Not exactly hard to find or recall.

Taping the Rams' walkthrough? That was debunked years ago.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Then their reasoning is BS. Can't have it both ways.

I hear you but it’s never been an objective process. There are guys IN the Hall who shouldn’t be because someone politicked for them

 

[PF_SU]

Seriously? Not exactly hard to find or recall.

You mean the alleged videotaping of the Rams' walkthrough prior to Super Bowl XXXVI that has long since been disproven with the Boston Herald that published the allegations forced to issue an apology?

 

[ErniesPinkStripes]

Seriously? Not exactly hard to find or recall.

"The Boston Herald retracted its 2008 report claiming the New England Patriots taped the St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl XXXVI walkthrough, admitting the story was false and no such tape existed. The paper issued a front-page apology in May 2008, acknowledging the report was based on inaccurate sources. "

Yea, seriously. I'm asking you to back up the stuff you claim. Thanks

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I always planned on visiting Canton someday.

**** it

It's ok but can't hold a candle to Cooperstown or the Basketball HOF. Canton comes off as dated.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

STFU. You don't like BB, we get it but just STFU.

What the hell are you talking about.
You are case in point of a Pats fan that can't take facts for what they are.
I do like BB as a coach, he is the best ever.
But I'm not blind, I watched him coach his whole time here and before that.
He pissed people off, if you can't admit that there is no help for you.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

speaking of cheating scandals I remember towards the end of the dynasty the accusations got ridiculous. didn’t we get accused of filming a bad bengals team?

 

[denverpatsfan]

I ****ing told you people he wouldn't get in the first time. But Mike Tomlin will...

 

[mike_usagisan]

The league fought for Deflategate and the Colts were front and center for that charge. If you think the HOF voters don’t believe in deflategate, you’ve proven you haven’t been paying attention.

The difference is they don’t like Bill, so they claim cheating. They like Brady, so they don’t care that he cheated.

 

[Clonamery]

What the hell are you talking about.
You are case in point of a Pats fan that can't take facts for what they are.
I do like BB as a coach, he is the best ever.
But I'm not blind, I watched him coach his whole time here and before that.
He pissed people off, if you can't admit that there is no help for you.

You piss me off so you must be the problem.

 

[jmt57]

Taping the Rams' walkthrough? That was debunked years ago.

Very true.

But the NFL placed a gag order on the Patriots/Kraft/Belichick, while BSPN came out with new bogus stories on a daily basis, every one attempting to outdo the last story, hitting the peak with Tomase's fabricated column.

Problem is that most sports fans outside of New England heard all those lies, and believed them because they came from 'trusted' sources - the various personalities on BSPN, NFLN, etc.

Ask the average American sports fan about spygate, and they will tell you that the Patriots were caught filming the Rams walk-through and other team's practices.

 

[lancerman]

The league fought for Deflategate and the Colts were front and center for that charge. If you think the HOF voters don’t believe in deflategate, you’ve proven you haven’t been paying attention.

The difference is they don’t like Bill, so they claim cheating. They like Brady, so they don’t care that he cheated.

A big thing is some league higher ups felt like Bill skated on Spygate. Deflategate was also reported to be a "this is our chance to get back at the Pats for Spygate" then Bill passed the buck to Brady and they got stuck in a circus. There was also an element where the league's conduct policy lost it's teeth if Brady won his lawsuit so they had to fight it.

 

[Clonamery]

The league fought for Deflategate and the Colts were front and center for that charge. If you think the HOF voters don’t believe in deflategate, you’ve proven you haven’t been paying attention.

The difference is they don’t like Bill, so they claim cheating. They like Brady, so they don’t care that he cheated.

NY media and fans in general hate Brady

 

[NE_Zealot]

Then their reasoning is BS. Can't have it both ways.

There is nothing consistent in anything to do with the NFL. They still don’t know what a catch is, I’d bet Brady gets in first ballot.

 

[Zoomnbyu]

Fair. But let’s not pretend Bill didn’t also have some ugly cheating accusations more than once that a lot of folks hold against him. Barry Bonds isn’t in the MLB HOF….which is asinine, but lots of folks hold PED’s against him.

That's because Barry's steroid induced head is the size of Jupiter. Serious fans know the accusations were BS. Football writers and Douchecanoe Polian should know much better. Also, I'm tired of the BS narrative of Bill's relationship with the media. Ask a stupid question get a stupid answer. Ask a half interesting question and Bill would spend 45 minutes dissecting the history of what happened and what it could mean in future scenarios. Bill's mantra was play stupid games win stupid prizes and I will always respect him for that.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

"The Boston Herald retracted its 2008 report claiming the New England Patriots taped the St. Louis Rams' Super Bowl XXXVI walkthrough, admitting the story was false and no such tape existed. The paper issued a front-page apology in May 2008, acknowledging the report was based on inaccurate sources. "

Yea, seriously. I'm asking you to back up the stuff you claim. Thanks

He admitted to taping signals from an improper location and then also admitted filming Jets signals years later after being warned not to. Capital offense? No.

Douchebag move that made everyone believe he was shady and probably did far worse without getting caught?

Yes.

His own owner called him a putz for doing it FFS.

Why are we pretending Bill was a saint who didn’t push envelope and alienate press, coaches, and players for years?

It’s just a little rich for me that a guy who acted that way for years is now indignant that “people are being mean to him”.

He won a lot of games. Should be in for that reason. He was also an arrogant ******* and you reap what you sow.

He gets in next year and no one cares.