NFL News League Filing Grievance Against Player’s Union Over Annual Surveys

[Ian]

This is interesting:

Sources: NFL files grievances against NFLPA, complicating team report card process

The league's grievance stems from CBA clauses that prohibit publicly disparaging comments toward clubs and a possible interruption to the league and union's jointly administered survey process.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[Pape]

Somebody no likey the annual black eye doled out by the Players Union, lol...

i say to the owners - stop being cheap, you are all billionaires, do better...

and to those who don't agree - lets put the word "billion" into perspective...
1,000,000 seconds (one million seconds) - 11 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes, and 40 seconds
1,000,000,000 seconds (one billion seconds) - 31 years, 8 months, 9 days, 1 hour, 46 minutes and 40 seconds

 

[Clonamery]

From a high-ranking NFC Exec:

“But I truly do think it makes clubs better and more accountable. And we should embrace that, if we are being honest.”

 

[Brotherblues]

It blasts the Jete and shames Woody to the point he has to sputter indignantly that it's not fair.

That alone makes it worth it.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Probably 1 of the reasons RK is fixing stuff now.

 

[TommyD4207]

This is interesting:

Sources: NFL files grievances against NFLPA, complicating team report card process

The league's grievance stems from CBA clauses that prohibit publicly disparaging comments toward clubs and a possible interruption to the league and union's jointly administered survey process.

sports.yahoo.com

Gee, I wonder which Bologna Sandwich Serving Owner is spearheading that?

 

[Ian]

Gee, I wonder which Bologna Sandwich Serving Owner is spearheading that?

Probably Jerry Jones - he runs the show with those guys.

 

[Ring 6]

I agree it shouldn’t be released publicly. Fine to share among NFLPA. But it should stay in house.

 

[Vindicate]

I agree it shouldn’t be released publicly. Fine to share among NFLPA. But it should stay in house.

Part of union power is bringing struggles to the public space, and seeing as this is a product consumed by the public, any worthwhile union/PA should be willing to let it see daylight. It is only ever in the owner's interest to keep things private.

 

[maust]

From the outside looking in, the owners make a bundle off what gets cooked up in the NFL kitchen it seems infantile to bemoan the heat that comes from it.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

I agree it shouldn’t be released publicly. Fine to share among NFLPA. But it should stay in house.

Not sure if you read the article, but that’s exactly what the complaint is in the grievance - “The league’s grievance stems from CBA Article 51, Section 6, that requires the NFLPA and league management council to “use reasonable efforts to curtail public comments by Club personnel or players which express criticism of any club…””

Now that said, the NFL is using that as an argument not to have the surveys done at all.

 

[Ring 6]

Part of union power is bringing struggles to the public space, and seeing as this is a product consumed by the public, any worthwhile union/PA should be willing to let it see daylight. It is only ever in the owner's interest to keep things private.

Yeah I don’t agree. The NFL and NFLPA are in a partnership whether they like it or not and what good for all is good for each. Trashing your partner publicly to theoretically get an edge usually does more damage to the relationship than it gains.
Fans hating owners really doesn’t accomplish what you think it does for players.

 

[Ring 6]

From the outside looking in, the owners make a bundle off what gets cooked up in the NFL kitchen it seems infantile to bemoan the heat that comes from it.

The players also make a bundle, trashing the golden goose also seems infantile.

 

[maust]

The players also make a bundle, trashing the golden goose also seems infantile.

Honestly answering a workplace survey is not 'trashing' the workplace neither will it have any impact on gold the goose produces.
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[lancerman]

Oh no the poor billionaires can't handle some criticism of their job performance.

 

[Vindicate]

Yeah I don’t agree. The NFL and NFLPA are in a partnership whether they like it or not and what good for all is good for each. Trashing your partner publicly to theoretically get an edge usually does more damage to the relationship than it gains.

If an employer isn't meeting the needs of its employees, it is failing its part of the "partnership". The league doesn't exist without players, full stop. Without players and employees fighting and advocating for themselves, owners would still hand out bologna sandwiches. Again, keeping stuff behind doors is only for the benefit of the owner, regardless of what you agree with or not.

The very fact they want to keep survey results behind closed doors shows this, it would put the power more in their court and allows them to move as slow as they'd like. The relationship between employer and employee is one of a power struggle. 32 owners calling the shots of 1,696 players. If you don't use every single tool to fight for a seat at the decision making table, they'd laugh in your face and close the door on you.

 

[patfanken]

I always wondered about the effect of winning and losing on those reports how a player relates to the coaches and staff. Wanna bet that the survey for the Pats is a LOT better this that the last 2 years

A lot of the structural improvements that have occurred were planned were "in the works" a couple of years ago when those negative surveys went out.

 

[neuronet]

 

[Triumph]

NE ranked 31st appears that Bob has resorted back to baloney sandwiches.

The Steelers and Chiefs aint that much better and KC has world class BBQ and Pitts got Primartti Brothers.

 

[Ring 6]

Honestly answering a workplace survey is not 'trashing' the workplace neither will it have any impact on gold the goose produces.
(1)

Who says they are honestly answering and not using it as a tool?
And it’s not having the survey it’s airing it publicly that is the issue. Hard to argue releasing it to the public rather than sharing it with owners alone is not a cudgel.