OT: Cowboys DE Marshawn Kneeland passes away at 24 years old

[VJCPatriot]

Dropped dead at just 24? His life has barely even started. That's so sad and shocking. RIP.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Makes you wonder what he had in the car, stop and get your ticket and be done with it, so sad.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Makes you wonder what he had in the car, stop and get your ticket and be done with it, so sad.

Per publicly released accounts, it sounds like he had decided to end things before his trouble with the police began. They did a welfare check at his house about an hour after the police chase broke off.

 

[patfanken]

Interesting that they have added the info about suicidal ideation was a concern BEFORE the police state. My first question was WHY were they chasing him in the first place, because I can see a kid being chased by the cops worrying about the end of his career and the embarrassment of being caught or arrested killing himself in a moment of irrational panic. So, I wanted to know WHY were they chasing him. If they were worried about him killing himself, a police chase down a highway with sirens and lights ISN'T what I would think would be a therapeutic action for someone with suicidal ideations.

I hope there will be more info coming

 

[amfootball]

Interesting that they have added the info about suicidal ideation was a concern BEFORE the police state. My first question was WHY were they chasing him in the first place, because I can see a kid being chased by the cops worrying about the end of his career and the embarrassment of being caught or arrested killing himself in a moment of irrational panic. So, I wanted to know WHY were they chasing him. If they were worried about him killing himself, a police chase down a highway with sirens and lights ISN'T what I would think would be a therapeutic action for someone with suicidal ideations.

I hope there will be more info coming

Yeah. This does not pass the smell test.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

This is incredibly sad everytime i see this type of thing

As always i have an open invitation to any forum members here, if you’re ever going through something and might feel more comfortable talking it out with a ‘stranger’ , im always a pm / phone call away

 

[irishfanatic]

Yeah. This does not pass the smell test.

Hiya Mazz

 

[n1997y]

Yeah. This does not pass the smell test.

Only if you’re predisposed to olfactory malfunction

 

[n1997y]

Interesting that they have added the info about suicidal ideation was a concern BEFORE the police state. My first question was WHY were they chasing him in the first place, because I can see a kid being chased by the cops worrying about the end of his career and the embarrassment of being caught or arrested killing himself in a moment of irrational panic. So, I wanted to know WHY were they chasing him. If they were worried about him killing himself, a police chase down a highway with sirens and lights ISN'T what I would think would be a therapeutic action for someone with suicidal ideations.

I hope there will be more info coming

Or he was feeling suicidal, driving erratically because he was in distress, chose to run instead of pulling over when his erratic driving was noticed, and decided to act on his suicidal inclinations after crashing his car while running from pursuit.

Could have been driving erratically in a subconscious attempt at suicide by police.

Who knows? Assuming a suicidal individual is thinking rationally is obviously not a good assumption.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Or he was feeling suicidal, driving erratically because he was in distress, chose to run instead of pulling over when his erratic driving was noticed, and decided to act on his suicidal inclinations after crashing his car while running from pursuit.

Could have been driving erratically in a subconscious attempt at suicide by police.

Who knows? Assuming a suicidal individual is thinking rationally is obviously not a good assumption.

It's still unclear what came first (his suicidal ideations vs. his encounter with the police).

 

[Nikolai]

Just had a chat with someone who is going through it now...the thing is, the world is full of possibilities, and no situation lasts forever. The dark times will end and when they do, it feels like a new life.

It's too bad he couldn't hang around to see that for himself.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Just had a chat with someone who is going through it now...the thing is, the world is full of possibilities, and no situation lasts forever. The dark times will end and when they do, it feels like a new life.

It's too bad he couldn't hang around to see that for himself.

If you think of depression as a valley, the biggest risk for suicide attempts isn't on the way down to the bottom, but just after one reaches the bottom and starts climbing back up. [As an example, Aaron Hernandez completed suicide just five days after he was acquitted in his second trial.]

 

[Nikolai]

If you think of depression as a valley, the biggest risk for suicide attempts isn't on the way down to the bottom, but just after one reaches the bottom and starts climbing back up.

This is true. A good friend of mine killed himself the night after finally making peace with his father. Maybe it's the fear of returning to the darkness again...

It's a hell of a thing

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It's a hell of a thing

Well said.

 

[patfanken]

Seems clear that his teammates and coaches were caught completely by surprise. Though if I were a football player having suicidal thoughts, sharing that with a teammate, coach, or staffer probably wouldn't be my first choice, for obvious reasons.

 

[n1997y]

Seems clear that his teammates and coaches were caught completely by surprise. Though if I were a football player having suicidal thoughts, sharing that with a teammate, coach, or staffer probably wouldn't be my first choice, for obvious reasons.

To me it seems likely the biggest question would be his domestic situation. I’d assumed from the described timeline that was the source of the report about suicidal ideation. But it’s all speculation.

 

[Dec54]

A tragic loss, if no one knew how he was feeling I am not surprised having witnessed suicide first hand. His family will be devastated. RIP young man.

 

[DaBruinz]

That series of events is painting an ugly picture.

I can only hope there was no other death involved.

So far, it's been reported that it was only himself. Something happened that caused him to send a text to his GF telling her that he was going to "End it all". Texas Department of Public Safety (the umbrella that all Texas officers are under) did a welfare check and didn't find him. Later, DPS tried to pull him over for a traffic violation. A pursuit ensued, but they lost him and the pursuit was terminated. However, they continued to look for him using a roving sweep and drones. They found his vehicle, but he was not inside. They later found him deceased by his own hand.

 

[DaBruinz]

To me it seems likely the biggest question would be his domestic situation. I’d assumed from the described timeline that was the source of the report about suicidal ideation. But it’s all speculation.

He sent a text to his Girlfriend saying that he was going to "End it all". She contacted the police for a welfare check. It has not been reported what transpired for him to sent said text.

 

[DaBruinz]

Interesting that they have added the info about suicidal ideation was a concern BEFORE the police state. My first question was WHY were they chasing him in the first place, because I can see a kid being chased by the cops worrying about the end of his career and the embarrassment of being caught or arrested killing himself in a moment of irrational panic. So, I wanted to know WHY were they chasing him. If they were worried about him killing himself, a police chase down a highway with sirens and lights ISN'T what I would think would be a therapeutic action for someone with suicidal ideations.

I hope there will be more info coming

He was being pulled over for some kind of traffic violation that was unrelated to the Welfare check. I don't believe the State Trooper who attempted to pull him over knew who he was at the time.