Interesting attitude of our players that mirrors BB

[One-If-By-Sea]

Yes.

LOL! Hollins is a good middling player. The Bills tried to re-sign him - that is always a very good sign - and he played for Josh previously.

Williams and Pop seem to be the opposite of Diggs. Diggs is always in the right spot. Williams and Pop always seem to be out of place - they can't run the right route or at the right depth for some reason. Let's hope Williams learns.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Odd take away considering no one, let alone @Steve102 in the post you quoted, has said they want Bill's influence long gone.
Not for nothing, the concept of realistic self assessment and evaluation is as old as sports

Please see the post above your.

 

[PatsFan2]

LOL! Hollins is a good middling player. The Bills tried to re-sign him - that is always a very good sign - and he played for Josh previously.

Williams and Pop seem to be the opposite of Diggs. Diggs is always in the right spot. Williams and Pop always seem to be out of place - they can't run the right route or at the right depth for some reason. Let's hope Williams learns.

Barefoot has won me over he's been like fine wine...maybe he gets' better with age. Barefoot is not playing like an older player.

 

[maust]

Please see the post above your.

Please see the time stamp on my post and realize we were posting at the same time.
I didn't see your response until after I posted

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Please see the time stamp on my post and realize we were posting at the same time.
I didn't see your response until after I posted

I know. I saw that. Appreciate your posts.

 

[PatsFan2]

If that were true then Bill's coaching tree wouldn't look like this...

Get ready to be tarred and featured his paltry following.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I hear BB speak slip into Vrabel's pressers all the time. Even something as small as the hugs at the door reminds of the way Bill used to circle the locker room and give everyone pats on the back.

Vrabel is his own man with his own perspective and way of doing things, but it'd be insane to think that BB didn't influence him in a lot of ways whether consciously or unconsciously. Vrabel is a coach now and BB is the coach he spent the most professional time with in any capacity (playing or his time as an assistant). Some stuff is bound to rub off.

 

[Wozzy]

A lot of posters were hot on free agent Eagles Sweat or Baun… I wanted Milton Williams.

We needed beef…

 

[Hugepatsfan]

Milton Williams looks to have potential to be one of those generational, transformational free agent signings. You're talking a guy who's YOUNG and in his relative prime for maybe another 5+ years. And being so young, he's seemingly still improving as a player and the money hasn't stopped him from pursuing that. On top of that, he seems to have leadership qualities too, which not all players have even amazingly gifted ones. When you add all of that in, that's a pillar of your franchise type of player and to add a player like that is something that changes the big picture for you. it's tough to get those guys in free agency because they aren't usually allowed to walk, so when you do you kickstart things in a huge way.

Gonzo in 2023, Maye in 2024 and Milton Williams in 2025... lots has been done wrong over the years but adding three pillar of the franchise type pieces all playing premium positions and all so young (two draft picks and Williams signed going into in his age 26 season). They've changed the long term outlook of this franchise in a big way adding and developing that kind of top of the roster talent 3 years in a row.

 

[Steve102]

IF Maye is making Barefoot Mack Hollins a player: he can do the same for KW. We are onto the Second Half Kyle Williams I can't stomach getting nothing from another Patriots Rookie WR. Their contemporaries around the league are doing quite well.

Guys develop at their own rate.

 

[PatsFan2]

Guys develop at their own rate.

 

[PatsFan2]

@Steve102 you win Tarzan Mack Hollins too.

 

[Steve102]

@Steve102 you win.

We need to time stamp this ****.

 

[PatsFan2]

We need to time stamp this ****.

 

[Ring 6]

LOL! Hollins is a good middling player. The Bills tried to re-sign him - that is always a very good sign - and he played for Josh previously.

Williams and Pop seem to be the opposite of Diggs. Diggs is always in the right spot. Williams and Pop always seem to be out of place - they can't run the right route or at the right depth for some reason. Let's hope Williams learns.

He signed here for peanuts, so how much did the Bills really want him?

Hollins is a WR who struggles to get open and catch passes. We have good receiving RBs and TEs so we kind of overcome that to an extent.
But you simply can’t run a WR out there who has a career 1.1 yards per route run (he is up to 1.39 after last week but that’s still terrible).

I get he plays a lot on running downs but he has run 150 routes. The passing offense needs more than what he provides.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

He signed here for peanuts, so how much did the Bills really want him?

Hollins is a WR who struggles to get open and catch passes. We have good receiving RBs and TEs so we kind of overcome that to an extent.
But you simply can’t run a WR out there who has a career 1.1 yards per route run (he is up to 1.39 after last week but that’s still terrible).

I get he plays a lot on running downs but he has run 150 routes. The passing offense needs more than what he provides.

I had no idea that you didn't like Hollins. Thanks for the update on your opinion.

 

[The Gr8est]

IF Maye is making Barefoot Mack Hollins a player: he can do the same for KW. We are onto the Second Half Kyle Williams I can't stomach getting nothing from another Patriots Rookie WR. Their contemporaries around the league are doing quite well.

I remember Kyle Williams saying he wanted to be great, matter of factly.

He seems like a hard working focused player, and as I recall he was working through some physical issues in camp.

I still expect him to emerge.

 

[Huckleberry1]

KW have a unique skillset he needs to start showing it. He's playing with a Great QB no excuses.

This such ********. He's a rookie. This mindset that you have where every player has to come in and start producing immediately or they suck is complete garbage. If you were the person making the decisions for the Patriots they wouldn't be the worst team in football, they would be the worst team in the history of football.

 

[Brotherblues]

Barefoot has won me over he's been like fine wine...maybe he gets' better with age. Barefoot is not playing like an older player.

He lacks explosiveness and doesn't have long speed either. By all rights he should not get open.

And yet he does, and he catches the damn ball too.

I'm good with the end results.

 

[Real fan 02]

I have noticed an atribute of our current players that mirrors something that was admirable about BB. The constant drive to get better. Nothing encapsulate that better than this interaction between Coach and Williams. I see same thing with Diggs, Jones, Boutte. They want to get better, they are not satisfied with just a win. This is scary for the rest of the NFL.
this interaction fills me with so much joy.

Under Vrabel this is the catalyst of a team under BB during the championship runs that we are accustomed to seeing. Players, coaches and the product on the field all getting better each week, in- game adjustments, game planning. This defensive front the way they have stopped the run is utterly remarkable.