Next week 27th - 1st) Roster move

[Family]

there are worse ways to use the roster spot... wouldnt mind tj having a full time roster spot

They can't afford to lose him, unless there's a mysterious player looming we don't know about.

 

[Pape]

They can't afford to lose him, unless there's a mysterious player looming we don't know about.

 

[Ring 6]

I know it's early to think about, and the thread will be buried after game, but...............

they have to add a RB after this week. Jennings is out of options.

So who gets cut or traded?

I say Afernee Jennings for a low draft choice.

And they bring up PS RB Terrell Jennings.

Why would you get rid of Jennings who is contributing rather than someone who is not?

 

[Mack Herron]

I think draft is the way to go. Both Stevenson and Gibson are up after 2026, so bringing in a rookie for that season, with Henderson transitioning to a lead-back role, seems like pretty good continuity. And who knows, they'll be able to keep Gibson pretty cheap, maybe he sticks around another couple years.

Downside of waiting for next year is it leaves us short this year. Neither Stevenson nor Henderson has been consistent.

 

[TommyD4207]

Downside of waiting for next year is it leaves us short this year. Neither Stevenson nor Henderson has been consistent.

Yeah. Well. It is what it is. Gonna have to live with an incomplete roster for this year.

 

[Mack Herron]

Yeah. Well. It is what it is. Gonna have to live with an incomplete roster for this year.

Completely reasonable and probably what they’ll do. But I look at this opportunity and I’m all in.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Eric Gregory?

 

[n1997y]

not if you cut him.

when you re-sign him he has reset his "options" so you can elevate him 3 more times...

Where did you find anything to support that?

I doubt it’s true.

I expect if you tried it there are only two possible outcomes: 1) he is signed to another team’s roster or practice squad; or more likely 2) NFLPA files a grievance and/or league imposes discipline for violating CBA.

NFLPA would be highly motivated to prevent teams from doing this as it harms players financially. It’s a perfect setup to get into trouble with the union at the very time that the union needs to rehabilitate its image. No bueno.

 

[n1997y]

Anyway I heard Vrabel speak, and it sounded to me like Jennings was being called up permanently.

That’s the only option, fan hallucinations aside.

 

[n1997y]

not if you cut him.

when you re-sign him he has reset his "options" so you can elevate him 3 more times...

Oops.
Looks like they thought of that. Emphasis added.

NFL / NFLPA
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
MARCH 15, 2020
ARTICLE 33 PRACTICE SQUADS
Section 5. Standard Elevation Addendum:

(f)
…If a Practice Squad Player: (i) has been elevated to a Club’s Active/Inactive List for either one or two games pursuant to this Subsection 5; and (ii) the Club subsequently requests waivers on or terminates his NFL Player Contract, or if the Club terminates his Practice Squad Player Contract; and (iii) thereafter resigns the player to its Practice Squad, the player may not be elevated to that Club’s Active/Inactive List pursuant to this Section 5 for the remainder of that regular or postseason.

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....-Bargaining-Agreement-Final-Executed-Copy.pdf

 

[PatsFan2]

Jack Westover or Caedan Wallace both could get back on our PS. T Jennings may be better than regarded he ran well everytime we see him.

 

[n1997y]

Jack Westover or Caedan Wallace both could get back on our PS. T Jennings may be better than regarded he ran well everytime we see him.

Doubt they’d risk Wallace. Perhaps Westover. Or Anfernee Jennings.

There’s also a possibility they make an aggressive push to trade A.Jennings or White or even somebody else in time to open the required roster slot to promote T.Jennings.

 

[TommyD4207]

Jack Westover

 

[Pape]

Oops.
Looks like they thought of that. Emphasis added.

NFL / NFLPA
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
MARCH 15, 2020
ARTICLE 33 PRACTICE SQUADS
Section 5. Standard Elevation Addendum:


https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....-Bargaining-Agreement-Final-Executed-Copy.pdf

oops? nah.

The basis for my assertion comes from NFL Operations. emphasis mine, last paragraph on the cited page
"Standard Elevation Addendum

Now included in all practice squad contracts, the standard elevation addendum allows teams to move a player from the practice squad to the active/inactive list for one week and then back to the practice squad without subjecting him to waivers. Under this addendum, a player reverts back to his team's practice squad on the first business day after the game in which he is elevated.

These players receive the applicable minimum salary for a player with his number of credited seasons (prorated for one week of regular season pay or the applicable postseason amount). This clause can be used by a team for a maximum of two regular-season or postseason games per player per season.

Each practice squad players can be elevated for a maximum of three regular season games in the same League Year. After this, any subsequent elevation of the player will require the team to add him to their 53-man Active/Inactive List. The team must then waive or terminate his player contract before the player can be re-signed to the Practice Squad. If the player is re-signed to the Practice Squad this way, the player is again eligible to be elevated for the previously mentioned maximum of three games."

Contract Language | NFL Football Operations

Complete guide to NFL contract terms, salary structures, and player compensation rules.

operations.nfl.com

so tell me, is my interpretation of the rules surrounding call ups incorrect?

I can answer that question... In the body of text that appears before the part you bolded, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, same citation you provide, states:
"
If the Club requests waivers on the player’s NFL Player Contract and that contract
is not claimed by another Club, or if the Club terminates the player’s contract, the player
shall become a free agent and shall be free to sign an NFL Player Contract or a Practice
Squad Player Contract with any Club, including the Club that requested waivers or termi-
nated the contract. If the player’s NFL Player Contract is not claimed, or if the contract is
terminated, and the player subsequently signs a Practice Squad Player Contract with a new
Club, nothing shall preclude the signing Club from elevating the player to its Active/In-
active List up to a maximum combination of two regular season or postseason games,
subject to the rules set forth in this Section 5. "
--
Terminate the players contract. Re-sign the player to a new deal (the *wink wink nod nod* we are going to bring you back portion of this) it resets the number of eligible call ups.

So say we terminate TJs contract, and resign the player, then you'd be correct, the teams are restricted at that point to two call ups before having to add the player to the 53 man roster full time.

In other words, we get to do this one time - after the second contract we cannot reset the number of call ups with a new deal. at that point there are no more "wink wink nod nod" contract shenanigans allowed...

now go "ugh" your own post

 

[signbabybrady]

oops? nah.

The basis for my assertion comes from NFL Operations. emphasis mine, last paragraph on the cited page
"Standard Elevation Addendum

Now included in all practice squad contracts, the standard elevation addendum allows teams to move a player from the practice squad to the active/inactive list for one week and then back to the practice squad without subjecting him to waivers. Under this addendum, a player reverts back to his team's practice squad on the first business day after the game in which he is elevated.

These players receive the applicable minimum salary for a player with his number of credited seasons (prorated for one week of regular season pay or the applicable postseason amount). This clause can be used by a team for a maximum of two regular-season or postseason games per player per season.

Each practice squad players can be elevated for a maximum of three regular season games in the same League Year. After this, any subsequent elevation of the player will require the team to add him to their 53-man Active/Inactive List. The team must then waive or terminate his player contract before the player can be re-signed to the Practice Squad. If the player is re-signed to the Practice Squad this way, the player is again eligible to be elevated for the previously mentioned maximum of three games."

Contract Language | NFL Football Operations

Complete guide to NFL contract terms, salary structures, and player compensation rules.

operations.nfl.com

so tell me, is my interpretation of the rules surrounding call ups incorrect?

I can answer that question... In the body of test that appears before the part you bolded, the Collective Bargaining Agreement, same citation you provide, states:
"
If the Club requests waivers on the player’s NFL Player Contract and that contract
is not claimed by another Club, or if the Club terminates the player’s contract, the player
shall become a free agent and shall be free to sign an NFL Player Contract or a Practice
Squad Player Contract with any Club, including the Club that requested waivers or termi-
nated the contract. If the player’s NFL Player Contract is not claimed, or if the contract is
terminated, and the player subsequently signs a Practice Squad Player Contract with a new
Club, nothing shall preclude the signing Club from elevating the player to its Active/In-
active List up to a maximum combination of two regular season or postseason games,
subject to the rules set forth in this Section 5. "
--
Terminate the players contract. Re-sign the player to a new deal (the *wink wink nod nod* we are going to bring you back portion of this) it resets the number of eligible call ups.

So say we terminate TJs contract, and resign the player, then you'd be correct, the teams are restricted at that point to two call ups before having to add the player to the 53 man roster full time.

In other words, we get to do this one time - after the second contract we cannot reset the number of call ups with a new deal. at that point there are no more "wink wink nod nod" contract shenanigans allowed...

now go "ugh" your own post

I think one is probably the rule when cut from 53 and the other from PS.

 

[Pape]

I think one is probably the rule when cut from 53 and the other from PS.

the mechanic is allowed per NFL operations and the CBA...

If they want to keep TJ on the roster and not risk losing him, I am fine with that... but since no one has signed him away just yet, I think terminating his deal and re-signing him is a viable option... ymmv

 

[signbabybrady]

the mechanic is allowed per NFL operations and the CBA...

If they want to keep TJ on the roster and not risk losing him, I am fine with that... but since no one has signed him away just yet, I think terminating his deal and re-signing him is a viable option... ymmv

You'd have to sign him to the 53 first.

 

[PatsFan2]

 

[Pape]

You'd have to sign him to the 53 first.

I'm confused a bit here... why?

 

[signbabybrady]

I'm confused a bit here... why?

Probably to prevent the exact loophole you think you found