PostGame Thread Patriots win 5 in a row, defeat Browns 32-13

[Rob0729]

LOLZ!

 

[dliverey44]

Seeing him sitting morosely alone after an all-world performance, realizing that nothing he gives that team can matter and that his contract makes him untradeable…oof.

Everybody keeps saying “he went for the money” but IMO it’s a little different when you stick with the team that drafted you. It’s not like he leapt from a championship-caliber team to the highest-bidding loser. Like, say, Milton Williams.

I really do not blame him for signing to that big money deal even though he knew they aren't going to win. The Browns were going to Franchise tag him for 3 straight years, so he might have well sign the big contract to protect against injury

 

[DaBruinz]

Did somebody say Jerry Jeudy?? I can't help it.

You were ball -washing Jeudy, pounding the table for the Pats to trade for him at one point. My how your tune has changed.

 

[dliverey44]

It's not, but you know what? He'll figure it out, he's 23.
Might not figure it out this year. But I think he will eventually.

I agree that he will figure it out, I am just hopeful that he doesn't take a massive hit that drives his shoulder into and separates his shoulder

 

[Brotherblues]

Jerry Jeudy - 2 targets, 0 catches.

Gonzalez put him in jail.

Still can't believe they threw at Gonzo 1v1 on 4th down.

That was criminal.

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Further evidence that Drake would be better off with a lower completion percentage. Need some "throw the damn ball away" lessons.



And PPF graded Campbell high and Onwenu/Bradbury low.

Seems like Campbell did better when he was one-on-one than when the screwed up the spacing or timing on a TE chip:

 

[dliverey44]

Further evidence that Drake would be better off with a lower completion percentage. Need some "throw the damn ball away" lessons.

Campbell was not as bad against Garrett as I thought while watching it live. I think Lazar attributed 2 of his sacks to Campbell

 

[TommyD4207]

Further evidence that Drake would be better off with a lower completion percentage. Need some "throw the damn ball away" lessons.



And PPF graded Campbell high and Onwenu/Bradbury low.

Seems like Campbell did better when he was one-on-one than when the screwed up the spacing or timing on a TE chip:

Bradbury was awful for the 2nd game in a row.
And Onwenu followed up his best game of the year against the Titans, with another lazy mail-it-in effort.

 

[Real fan 02]

Sure.

It's really been a big problem. The Patriots could have won by 26 instead of 19 yesterday.

And Kyle Pitts? Had the best game of his career yesterday. 9 catches, 70 yards in a blowout loss, most of it coming in garbage time.

No, I'm not concerned. If not covering TEs is your worst issue, then you're doing pretty well.

Guess I'm doing pretty well.. I guess the Patriots of the past few seasons still has an effect on my thinking.. I didn't think we'd be this good this soon and it's been a revelation for sure.. so please don't mind me if you see my post appear to be worrisome on an opposing teams weapons.

Seeing roller skates eliss on a TE is...

 

[rogerthat]

I know Sanders is hurt and I'm not at practice everyday in Cleveland, but even with that it's hard to imagine that Sanders wouldn't be able to give the Brown a better chance to win than Gabriel. Gabriel is absolutely terrible.

 

[Real fan 02]

It's not, but you know what? He'll figure it out, he's 23.
Might not figure it out this year. But I think he will eventually.

Multi talented Marcus...

 

[TommyD4207]

Guess I'm doing pretty well.. I guess the Patriots of the past few seasons still has an effect on my thinking.. I didn't think we'd be this good this soon and it's been a revelation for sure.. so please don't mind me if you see my post appear to be worrisome on an opposing teams weapons.

Seeing roller skates eliss on a TE is...

Yeah. I mean, name the last Patriots LB who could cover a TE. (Hint: It was over a decade ago)

There are like, maybe 2 teams that have coverage linebackers that good.

You gotta trust what you're seeing, my friend. Leave the past in the past.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah. I mean, name the last Patriots LB who could cover a TE. (Hint: It was over a decade ago)

There are like, maybe 2 teams that have coverage linebackers that good.

You gotta trust what you're seeing, my friend. Leave the past in the past.

Jaime Collins could except in AFCCGs..
Agreed. You've cured my worries

 

[TommyD4207]

Multi talented Marcus...

He's got a good ear, that 80s R&B chord progressions from whatever sample he found there, very nice.

 

[Ring 6]

I have a serious question too have you seen our coverage against TEs?

Patriot defense is 16th in receptions allowed to TE and 17th in yards, per ChatGPT, after having to ask 3 times to get it right.
Given the patriots have not had a bye and some teams have, the per game ranking is likely higher.

 

[mgteich]

If you have a QB that can get you 30 points a game, including games against good defenses, then you are a Super Bowl contender. Case closed.
Pats weakness on defense is lack of success pressuring the QB on a regular basis. Trey Hendrickson would be the ideal fit for the biggest weakness. Very interested to see how they do against Mayfield.

Where do Pats rank in AFC?
By record we have: Colts, Broncos, Steelers, Bills, Chargers, Jags, Chiefs, Texans.

Texans have a good defense, won't matter, Stroud is nowhere near Mayes level. Jags have Lawrence? Nope.
Broncos are good but the QB spot is a weakness. Despite the much better talent around Nix I could never pick Nix over Maye in a game.
Steelers: Patriots dominated the Steelers all game long, had 5 TO's and was still a DD fall forward from probably going to OT. The Pats were clearly the better team that day.

So: Colts, Chiefs, Bills, Chargers, Patriots. That's the 5 IMO.
Let's see the Pats vs Bucs and then Bills again and then can give a better idea of the ranking in that 5.

your 5 plus DEN and BALT should be the 7.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Yeah. I mean, name the last Patriots LB who could cover a TE. (Hint: It was over a decade ago)

There are like, maybe 2 teams that have coverage linebackers that good.

You gotta trust what you're seeing, my friend. Leave the past in the past.

Jaime Collins could except in AFCCGs..
Agreed. You've cured my worries

Adalius Thomas wiped out TE's in 2007. Colvin's loss was underrated. Thomas was by far the best.

Collins was a frustrating player. Had All Pro ability, but would fall asleep like that time in the 2015 AFCCG. He was a fantastic A/B gap blitzer and blocking field goals/extra points.

Aside from that, Pats have struggled historically defending TE's and RB's.

 

[bresna]

Re: the slow start, they really could have should have gotten a three and out. A blown coverage and some trickery and the “slow start” description lives on, and for good reason.

Especially since that 3rd & long pass play to an open TE was after what the announcers called "a pick he should've avoided". The last time I looked, a pick play outside 2 yards is actually offensive pass interference.

 

[patchick]

I can live with KC out of respect, but the Steelers are already fading (so they are irrelevant).

But you have to back up your claims regarding the Chargers, Texans, Colts and Broncos. Ravens with Lamar will be a pain in the ass, but they aren't going to make the playoffs unless other teams implode. Pats already beat the Bills and have only gotten better since that game.

The "best" teams in the AFC are up for debate. But you know what seems undebatable to me? The teams with the best shot at the bye:

1. Colts
2. Patriots

 

[bresna]

BTW, the crowd noise was louder today than I ever remember. During the Brady years, the crowd got too complacent. The years in between, there hasn't been much to cheer about. Gillette will never be confused with Arrowhead, but it is good to see the crowd at least be loud again.

Probably because it was the first game in a long while with a large majority of Patriots fans in the crowd. This year has been bad in that regard, particularly the Raiders & Steelers games.