The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[raduray]

Notice how all the apologists shift the blame to someone else. It's never Bill's fault.

We all know it's Jonathan's fault.

 

[Huckleberry1]

And this is the ultimate problem. College is not the NFL. These kids have 3-4 years of real play time where they want to create a commercial to NFL gm's for why they should be drafted. The best players are not going to go to a 73 year rebuild project.

Like I said, this is not the NFL. You don't take this current crop and then add a good draft class to a 53 man roster where you are guaranteed at least one of the top 32 and then one of the top 64 each year along with guys forced off their team due to money. His class next year will be based on him selling himself and his team that is in the gutter to players to not go to better schools where they can be put in winning positions. And the gap is too big in college talentwise to take some middle of the road prospect, put him in the right scheme and then have him do well against guys who are just many times his talent level. You can get away with that in a league where everyone is good. Not in a league where the talent pool goes from "this guy is just having fun in college to this guy is absolutely going to have a career playing this sport".

Wins, losses, scores, what are they really? The real winners are the kids who get to play in my program. Just ask Bunny, she's really smart, she'll tell you,

 

[Boomer B]

Bill lost Zo too.

Zolak shreds Belichick, UNC after Drake Maye report: 'This is pathetic'

Scott Zolak took Bill Belichick and the North Carolina football program to task after it was reported the Tar Heels didn't want to promote Drake Maye.

www.nbcboston.com

Sad what Bill has become. Even long term Team Bill members like Zo and Thornton are jumping ship. Pretty soon all that will be left is signbabybrady.

 

[sb1]

Sad what Bill has become. Even long term Team Bill members like Zo and Thornton are jumping ship. Pretty soon all that will be left is signbabybrady.

And his sidekick Wussy

 

[sb1]

Bill Belichick's failings at North Carolina underline one thing: He thinks he's bigger than the job

Bill Belichick has failed on almost every account at UNC and they have reached the midway point of the season as one of the biggest laughingstocks in the sport. How long will the school put up with his antics if he's not winning?

sports.yahoo.com

translation: They’re one big grifting operation instead of a football team

 

[h0c2000]

WSJ: The Bill Belichick Nightmare Just Keeps Getting Worse

 

[signbabybrady]

The frauds all are out. Pathetic that they don't even care about beating Buffalo they'd rather hate.

 

[FortressX]

I feel a little sad for Steve reading all this.

He was coming into his own as a DC and tossed it all away.

 

[sb1]

I feel a little sad for Steve reading all this.

He was coming into his own as a DC and tossed it all away.

Yup. He really needed to be on his own and build his own track record.

Tbh I would have been ok with him here working under Vrabel.

 

[Bill Lee]

I feel a little sad for Steve reading all this.

He was coming into his own as a DC and tossed it all away.

True, but the (edit) WRAL report makes it sound like he's not exactly helping things:

Khmori House and Thaddeus Dixon played for Belichick's son, Steve Belichick, at the University of Washington. Their names come up repeatedly when talking to sources about preferential treatment. Dixon's family has field access on game days, something that no other family is believed to have.

And:

Failure to communicate with players and parents has also furthered the divide. According to sources, the players who chose to stay at UNC after Mack Brown's firing didn't meet Belichick for weeks after he was hired. Parents were told not to approach Belichick. They didn't meet Belichick and his staff until the "Practice like a Pro" spring game.
...
Under Mack Brown, parents had relationships with coaches and their phone numbers. Coaches might call a parent if they felt something was going on with their son. Multiple sources have said that Belichick's son, Brian, the defensive back/safeties coach, is very personable. Belichick's son Steve, the defensive coordinator, they said, is the opposite.

Divided locker room, disastrous results: Players, parents blame Belichick culture for UNC problems

Multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say that UNC football's losses are a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff and a failure to communicate.

www.wral.com

 

[Bill Lee]

Bill Belichick's failings at North Carolina underline one thing: He thinks he's bigger than the job

Bill Belichick has failed on almost every account at UNC and they have reached the midway point of the season as one of the biggest laughingstocks in the sport. How long will the school put up with his antics if he's not winning?

sports.yahoo.com

translation: They’re one big grifting operation instead of a football team

Pretty damn harsh:

... you don’t bring the petty feuds that followed you from the New England Patriots into the building. It means you don’t fly off to Nantucket with your girlfriend during the bye week when your team is failing on practically every front. It means that when you gut a roster from the previous regime to bring in your own people, you better actually upgrade the talent instead of throwing darts at the transfer portal like it doesn’t matter because you don’t believe the competition is worthy of trading X for O with your genius.

Belichick has failed on every account because those around him either don’t understand the job or don’t take it seriously, and as a result they have reached the midway point of the season as one of the biggest laughingstocks in the recent history of the sport.

And:

Bill, here’s some free advice: At North Carolina, they don’t care about you enough to put up with all this.

You’re not one of them. They merely hired you to do a job. And if you don’t want to do it, rest assured they will find someone else who will.

Seems Bill thinks his GOAT aura will protect him. Seems that's not the way to go.

The rest of the article doesn't get any better.

It repeatedly points out how Bill and his merry band of grifters are putting their interests ahead of UNC's interests, and don't seem to care about how that makes them look.

This very well may end early and end ugly.

 

[Bill Lee]

Not good when the media are publishing the info on how much it costs to fire you:

Bill Belichick buyout, contract details as North Carolina Tar Heels coach

Big Bill isn't thrilling in Chapel Hill.

sports.yahoo.com

Turns out Bill's lawyers earned their keep and UNC has really bought the entire bill (sic) of goods:

If North Carolina were to fire Belichick at any point before Dec. 31 2027, the school would owe him everything he was set to be paid up to that date. As things stand currently, that would be under $30 million. It's one of the more expensive buyouts in college football.

Breer isn't exactly standing up for BIll:

Could UNC buy out Belichick's contract after one season? Breer weighs in

Could the North Carolina Tar Heels consider buying out Bill Belichick's contract after one underwhelming season? Albert Breer weighs in.

sports.yahoo.com

“Well, I certainly think it’s something they have to look at,” Breer said. “It’ll be expensive to move on from him, but I think you have to look at this from a big-picture perspective for the University of North Carolina.”
...

“There’s so many things that they’ve done there — this is one thing you hear from a lot of NFL people that have been through there — there are so many things that they have done there that fly in the face of what you should be doing to try to attract top talent,” Breer said.

Et tu, Albert? Another h8r!

 

[NovaScotiaPatsFan]

I mean, I'm no expert on college football, but I don't know what these people were expecting. BB took a job at a middling at best school, got 70 new players this year and their schedule has been front-loaded with some established programs.

While I have some mixed feelings on Bill I think a lot of this is just the media who all hated him because he made them actually do their jobs when he was the coach here are taking this opportunity to kick him while he's down to exact their petty revenge. I'm still in wait and see mode and I hope UNC gives him the time to build a program. If they do and he still fails I'll call it out, but for now it's WAY too early IMO.

 

[203Pat]

I mean, I'm no expert on college football, but I don't know what these people were expecting. BB took a job at a middling at best school, got 70 new players this year and their schedule has been front-loaded with some established programs.

While I have some mixed feelings on Bill I think a lot of this is just the media who all hated him because he made them actually do their jobs when he was the coach here are taking this opportunity to kick him while he's down to exact their petty revenge. I'm still in wait and see mode and I hope UNC gives him the time to build a program. If they do and he still fails I'll call it out, but for now it's WAY too early IMO.

I think you're giving him way too much benefit of doubt. It seems to be more and more clear that Bill isn't all that interested in building the football program at UNC. Bill is concerned about Bill. Getting him and all his friends and kids jobs, playing favorites, and letting his bimbo girlfriend meddle in any and everything. Bill thought he could just show up and outwit all the southern rednecks with his big brain or he just took the job with the clear intention of mailing it in and getting one last payday. Either way it is pretty clear Bill only cares about himself.

 

[Bill Lee]

WSJ: The Bill Belichick Nightmare Just Keeps Getting Worse

Wow!

Even more troubling, the first month of this NFL season has raised questions about Belichick’s final years in the pros. His former players, such as current San Francisco 49ers quarterback Mac Jones, are thriving without him—and so is his former team. The Patriots are now 3-2 after Sunday night’s upset win over the Buffalo Bills, showing signs that they’re finally improving the talent-barren roster that Belichick assembled.

There it is, the "Bill lost his fastball" theory, in print at your local news stand.

After Belichick’s exit from the Patriots following the 2023 season, it was something of a surprise when he didn’t immediately get another NFL head coaching opportunity. Despite the Patriots’ struggles in the years after Tom Brady’s departure, Belichick’s genius remains the stuff of legend—and no coach has more Super Bowl rings to prove it.

Indeed, why did no one want to hire the GOAT coach?

Belichick promised boosters that 2025 would be a rebuilding season, but it’s been rough even by those standards. In fact, things have gotten so bad that Lombardi sent an email to donors ahead of the Clemson game pleading for patience—and more money to pay incoming recruits.

Seems to me to be fair and balanced.

“Mac was one of those guys that was in bad situations in New England relative to coaching,” former Alabama coach Nick Saban said on ESPN last week. “He hasn’t been in great circumstances.”

Jones isn’t alone among talented players who have flourished after Belichick moved on. Tyquan Thornton, a Pats second rounder in 2022, caught only 39 passes and two touchdowns in his three years with the team. He already has three scores in his first season with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Ok, bringing up Mac Jones and Tyquan Thornton might be twisting the knife a bit, LOL!

They definitely stuck the landing:

Meanwhile, the Patriots are finally showing hope of escaping the tatters of Belichick’s final years in charge. After one bumbling year coached by Jerod Mayo, New England tapped Mike Vrabel to lead the team—and Sunday night’s win over the Bills marked the franchise’s biggest triumph in years.

For fans, this New England team might look familiar. Vrabel, who previously coached the Titans, was a Patriots stalwart who won three Super Bowls with the team as a linebacker. To lead the team’s offense, he brought back longtime Belichick assistant Josh McDaniels.

Which means there’s at least one team thriving now with a distinctly Belichickan flavor—but it’s the Patriots, not North Carolina.

The reporters either are hard-core Patriots fans or did a lot of research, or both.

IMO they really captured where things are at right now for us and for UNC.

 

[Bill Lee]

I mean, I'm no expert on college football, but I don't know what these people were expecting. BB took a job at a middling at best school, got 70 new players this year and their schedule has been front-loaded with some established programs.

Yes, they expected a rebuild, but they didn't expect the current team to suck this bad. Three defeats by 25 points or more, with these games being over in the third quarter and the other team playing their scrubs in the fourth quarter. Even after the application of such mercy, they've been out-scored 120-33 in games against teams from major conferences i.e. not cream-puffs. They really are a laughing stock.

The worse part is they don't see much urgency on Bill's part. Read the linked articles. They signed him to a $50M contract but don't see him burning the midnight oil to try to right the ship. Instead they see him flying off to Nantucket to hang out with his young tart of a girlfriend. The locker room is divided between the kids they signed directly vs the kids they brought in via the portal, and there is no evidence that Bill is trying to address the issue. There is no evidence that he or his staff are doing anything to strip things down to a core group of players that can coach up to not get blown out on a regular basis.

While I have some mixed feelings on Bill I think a lot of this is just the media who all hated him because he made them actually do their jobs when he was the coach here are taking this opportunity to kick him while he's down to exact their petty revenge. I'm still in wait and see mode and I hope UNC gives him the time to build a program. If they do and he still fails I'll call it out, but for now it's WAY too early IMO.

I'm sure there is some schadenfreude on the part of some media members, but, on the other hand there is the ugly reality that is the current UNC program.

It'll be interesting to see how much time he gets at UNC. The info we have about the contract makes it look like it'll be hard to get rid of him, but contracts are made to be broken.

IMO the executives in the UNC athletic program need to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with Bill. He really needs to show he's doing something to improve the communication within the organization and has a plan to do something with this year's team, because if they don't, kids won't come to UNC next year. The WRAL article (link below) makes it clear that parents are not on his side. That's a terrible place to be when your success depends on getting parents to send their kids to your school.

Divided locker room, disastrous results: Players, parents blame Belichick culture for UNC problems

Multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Bill Belichick's program say that UNC football's losses are a product of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff and a failure to communicate.

www.wral.com

 

[h0c2000]

I mean, I'm no expert on college football, but I don't know what these people were expecting. BB took a job at a middling at best school, got 70 new players this year and their schedule has been front-loaded with some established programs.

While I have some mixed feelings on Bill I think a lot of this is just the media who all hated him because he made them actually do their jobs when he was the coach here are taking this opportunity to kick him while he's down to exact their petty revenge. I'm still in wait and see mode and I hope UNC gives him the time to build a program. If they do and he still fails I'll call it out, but for now it's WAY too early IMO.

The "media" for UNC has no history with Bill. The UNC media doesn't hate Bill. Bill thinks he floats on water and all other football coaches will tremble in fear thinking about him. Turns out the opposite.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Next year at this time the players and staff at the Merrimack Jr. High School football program will be told not to post anything on social media about the University of North Carolina or the Patriots. Bill's new girlfriend, 16 year old Chastity Flynn will be in charge of scouting social media to enforce his edict. Meanwhile Bill's ex, Bunny Hudson, will soon go on trial for attempting to burn down Chastity's home, and sinking 8 Rings.

 

[sb1]

Next year at this time the players and staff at the Merrimack Jr. High School football program will be told not to post anything on social media about the University of North Carolina or the Patriots. Bill's new girlfriend, 16 year old Chastity Flynn will be in charge of scouting social media to enforce his edict. Meanwhile Bill's ex, Bunny Hudson, will soon go on trial for attempting to burn down Chastity's home, and sinking 8 Rings.

F'n principal's son always getting in the way...

 

[signbabybrady]

I think you're giving him way too much benefit of doubt. It seems to be more and more clear that Bill isn't all that interested in building the football program at UNC. Bill is concerned about Bill. Getting him and all his friends and kids jobs, playing favorites, and letting his bimbo girlfriend meddle in any and everything. Bill thought he could just show up and outwit all the southern rednecks with his big brain or he just took the job with the clear intention of mailing it in and getting one last payday. Either way it is pretty clear Bill only cares about himself.

Complete BS and hater gibberish