The Bill megathread (HC at UNC, girlfriend, etc.)

[XLIX]

oof - NY Post has a pretty savage hit piece

There's speculation that the latest lawsuit alleging he was illegally hired may give them an out on his contract if they want to go in that direction at the end of the season.

The only out UNC has after this season is a $20 million **** sandwich. If they try to cut him for less than that he’ll have their asses in court so fast their heads spin. And he’ll win.

Now they could in theory work out a mutually acceptable deal.... but if Belichick wants to stay, they'll have to pay a full 2 year load to get rid of him.

 

[lancerman]

Sorry, I won’t be drawn into a useless debate other than to say the guy who accuses me of a strawman changed my words from „16 games“ ( obviously meaning THAT OBE SEASON) in to 16 SEASONS just so he could go on w a specious argument.

You said BB in his greatest D season had to be rescued by Tom. I’m saying the coach is the only one who could have pulled off the D they did have that game. As those O players playing D practiced back in week 4 at it. And you‘re then ignoring 18 3/4 games of work to make some silly point about 4Q of a SB.

That SB was rescued by BOTH Tom s heroics & BB foresight, planning, player selection and development. You can never split the atom. They are both GOATs even if he got old over 60 and maybe should have known when to quit. If TB had played one more year as a shell of himself, would that take him out of GOAT territory ?
Not really interested in this debate except if I’m misquoted or something is so outrageous it has to be challenged.
Peace - Out.

I’ll relook in a week.

1. You replied to a quote that was not the one I replied to you in.

2. I wasn't referencing you or your post at all in the post you are replying to.

3. The quote where I said "16 seasons" I just mistyped. I meant 16 games. The rest of my point was based off that 16 games remark, so while it may have confused you, my response was in regards to what you actually said.

4. I disagree with the rest of your assessment. As good as the 2003 Pats defense was, it was far from the best defense of that era in the totality of the NFL. Plenty of other coaches did and have made defenses superior to the 2003 Pats defense. The 2002 Bucs the year before was a much better defense. The 2000 Ravens a few years before that was a much better defense. Even non SB winning defenses

To compound this:

The 2003 Pats had 14.9 PPG. In just the 2000's alone:

-2000 Ravens: 10.3
-2000 Titans: 11.9
-2000 Dolphins: 14.1
-2001 Bears: 12.7
-2001 Eagles: 13.0
-2001 Steelers: 13.2
-2002 Buccaneers: 12.2
-2005 Bears: 12,6
-2006: Ravens: 12.6
-2006 Patriots: 14.8 (interesting factoid)
-2008 Steelers: 13.9
-2008 Titans: 14.6
-2009 Jets: 14.8

They weren't even one of the top 10 defenses that decade in terms of points. Hell, Ravens, Steelers, Bears and Titans both put up at least two defenses that decade that were superior.

On top of that, only 3 of the 13 I listed actually won the Super Bowl. The Titansx2, Dolphins, Bears x2, Steelers x1, Ravens x1 and Jets all didn't win a Super Bowl. They didn't have a QB providing a safety net. Once the Steelers got a QB they won, once the Ravens got Flacco they won, the Jets and Bears and Titans have been wanting for a QB forever.

So yeah, the Pats had some really great defenses in that era, but there's a reason they weren't regarded as all timers. They really weren't. Statistically they weren't, and in big moments they weren't either. The best Patriots defense was the 4th best defense to win a Super Bowl of that decade. So yes, Brady existing to cover flaws and mishaps was very neccessary.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Just making my point that you're hating on the 01 defense

Your initial statement was the "early dynasty defense". If you're ranking the 2001 defense to the 2002, 2003 and 2004 - it's 3rd on the list. They weren't that good compared to 2003 and 2004 defenses. That 2001 team needed a QB to show up at certain moments. Was Bledsoe going to carry the team after the Chargers went up 25-16 with less than 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter? Was he going to comeback vs the Jets down 16-7 in the 3rd quarter on the road? Just one loss gives the Dolphins the division. Two loses to AFC teams and the Pats are knocked out of the playoffs. I'd appreciate a real rebuttal this time.

The 2001 NE defense was good. 6th in points allowed and typically if the Pats held their opponent to 17 points or less, NE won.

After the Rams beat NE in Foxboro, the Pats went on a run of only allowing 17 or less vs 9 straight opponents.

That stretch of 6 games you are referring to they faced teams with a 39-57 record which included: two last place teams (one that picked first overall in 2002) and 3 divisional opponents with mediocre offenses. They got the #2 seed because Oakland imploded facing teams during that same 6 games stretch with a record of 43-53 which included 3 divisional opponents, one .500 team and one winning team (Jets). All they had to do was go 3-3 down the stretch and the #2 seed was theirs. The 2001 Raiders were very similar to the 2015 Pats.

 

[signbabybrady]

The horror.....Your starting QB giving his wife love on the sidelines.

 

[Bill Lee]

The horror.....Your starting QB giving his wife love on the sidelines.

Right, same thing, except she isn't 1/3rd his age.

 

[sb1]

Right, same thing, except she isn't 1/3rd his age.

The cult is getting more and more desperate to defend their hoodied hero’s bimbo like what she does on the sidelines in games is totally normal lmao

 

[lancerman]

Right, same thing, except she isn't 1/3rd his age.

The cult is getting more and more desperate to defend their hoodied hero’s bimbo like what she does on the sidelines in games is totally normal lmao

He also can't tell the difference that Jordan is visible because it brings attention to the reality that she plays a role in Bill's whole personal branding and business ventures so she becomes a much bigger outside distraction

 

[Bill Lee]

The cult is getting more and more desperate to defend their hoodied hero’s bimbo like what she does on the sidelines in games is totally normal lmao

Desperate, and stupid too.

They pick the dumbest hill to die on.

 

[sb1]

He also can't tell the difference that Jordan is visible because it brings attention to the reality that she plays a role in Bill's whole personal branding and business ventures so she becomes a much bigger outside distraction

And motivating their opponents. They said it themselves.

 

[Triumph]

Your initial statement was the "early dynasty defense". If you're ranking the 2001 defense to the 2002, 2003 and 2004 - it's 3rd on the list. They weren't that good compared to 2003 and 2004 defenses. That 2001 team needed a QB to show up at certain moments. Was Bledsoe going to carry the team after the Chargers went up 25-16 with less than 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter? Was he going to comeback vs the Jets down 16-7 in the 3rd quarter on the road? Just one loss gives the Dolphins the division. Two loses to AFC teams and the Pats are knocked out of the playoffs. I'd appreciate a real rebuttal this time.

That stretch of 6 games you are referring to they faced teams with a 39-57 record which included: two last place teams (one that picked first overall in 2002) and 3 divisional opponents with mediocre offenses. They got the #2 seed because Oakland imploded facing teams during that same 6 games stretch with a record of 43-53 which included 3 divisional opponents, one .500 team and one winning team (Jets). All they had to do was go 3-3 down the stretch and the #2 seed was theirs. The 2001 Raiders were very similar to the 2015 Pats.

The Pats found a way to win and made the plays sometimes by the skin of their teeth.

Often times, the Pats were running the clock out with the lead. All that mattered was the W.

 

[signbabybrady]

Right, same thing, except she isn't 1/3rd his age.

The cult is getting more and more desperate to defend their hoodied hero’s bimbo like what she does on the sidelines in games is totally normal lmao

He also can't tell the difference that Jordan is visible because it brings attention to the reality that she plays a role in Bill's whole personal branding and business ventures so she becomes a much bigger outside distraction

Hahaha it's literally the exact same thing. Girlfriend/wife on the sidelines pregame.

The fact you can't admit that it's a dumb story just shows your hate.

 

[sb1]

Nice win today. Bill could never.

Great to finally have a coach that doesn’t need to ride on Brady’s coattails to win.

 

[signbabybrady]

Nice win today. Bill could never.

Great to finally have a coach that doesn’t need to ride on Brady’s coattails to win.

Bill disciple though

 

[Jackson 2]

The dismissal by many here and elsewhere of Bill Belichick's enormous contributions to the decades old unprecedented success of this franchise is embarrassing and moronic. It casts serious doubt regarding the accuracy of the lofty national reputation that Boston/NE fans have across the rest of the nation. Hateful and ungrateful.

 

[h0c2000]

UNC opened at +12.5 home dogs and moved to +13.5. With Ludacris in the house, the score might become ridiculous. At least with the noon kickoff, UNC students have plenty of time to get plastered Sat night and forget it even happened.

 

[JoeSixPat]

It's clear various Patriots fans are far more strongly invested in Bill's legacy than Bill himself is. Late-period Bill just wants to grab the cash and get laid, and grifters like Jordon Hudson and Mike Lombardi are more than willing to leverage that legacy for a big payday.

Yes - there's a sense in the fandom of getting ripped off for buying in to a philosophy (which clearly worked) but that's now been abandoned.

BB turning his back on Shula's record is unfortunate as well - but it seems like BB wants to say FU to the NFL in many ways.

Part of me doesn't blame him, looking back on how Goodell treated he and Brady like they were criminals primarily because Goodell and other team owners were sick of the Patriots being in the Super Bowl every other year, taking "their" championships away from them.

But I think many BB fans feel like he's saying FU to them as well and that fuels some of this.

 

[h0c2000]

Looks like Bill is going to be on tonight's radio show. Of course, no live callers, just screened questions. What a ****y.

 

[sb1]

Looks like Bill is going to be on tonight's radio show. Of course, no live callers, just screened questions. What a ****y.

Probably the only way they'd get real answers instead of grunts and snorts.

 

[sb1]

UNC Returns to Field Saturday With Unanswered Questions vs. Clemson

North Carolina will take on Clemson on Saturday at noon at Kenan Stadium in the 61st meeting between the two original members of the Atlantic Coast Conference (

www.si.com

Bill is so starting his boi Gio Lopez over the better QB because that's what Bill does.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The horror.....Your starting QB giving his wife love on the sidelines.

Drake is married to that dude in the orange shirt? I guess he will like Bad Bunny singing at halftime!