PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POST GAME THREAD: Patriots Lose to Steelers 21-14

[PatsFan2]

Sometimes a healthy QB1 is worth more than a first down.

Lamar and Josh Allen says hello on those. The margin of error for this Team is the definition of small.

 

[PatsFan2]

I would bench Rham for a week to get it through his head that he either secures the ball or doesn’t play. Those fumbles were inexcusable.

It hasn't sunk in yet with me either: especially at the GL. I thought I was in a bad dream.

 

[patsinthesnow]

pats WRs yards per route run:

Boutte 1.46 (45th/83rd)
Diggs 1.38 (49th/83rd)
Hollins 0.60 (77th/83rd)
Douglas 0.18 (81st/83rd)

Boutte & Diggs playing at a competent level & then Hollins & Douglas near the bottom of the league. Still, their leading receiver is only on pace for 800 yards.

 

[The Gr8est]

It hasn't sunk in yet with me either: especially at the GL. I thought I was in a bad dream.

Too late now, but I wonder if you could put it in a player’s contract that every fumble will cause a certain amount to be deducted from their contract?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

I didn't see Curran but I it looked like Maye followed his target and the DL easily deflected the pass. That is on Maye.

The throw itself wasn’t necessarily bad, but it was 100% the wrong type of throw. He tried to drive to Boutte, when it certainly appeared he was wide open if Maye had of lollipoped it over the defender.

 

[Thunderhead]

pats WRs yards per route run:

Boutte 1.46 (45th/83rd)
Diggs 1.38 (49th/83rd)
Hollins 0.60 (77th/83rd)
Douglas 0.18 (81st/83rd)

Boutte & Diggs playing at a competent level & then Hollins & Douglas near the bottom of the league. Still, their leading receiver is only on pace for 800 yards.

No 1000 yard receiver since Edelman.

 

[Ring 6]

This doesn't look like a playoff team right now. Not even close.
If you're going to take away the turnovers and give them 3 more TDs, then take away the penalties and give them 2 more and call it a 49-0 blowout.
It takes much more than arm talent to be a QB and Maye is still learning.
Stop with blaming the refs. It's a bad look in a game with so many turnovers.
This team hasn't seemed to learn much from losing and they've done plenty of that for a few years now.
They played three of the weaker AFC teams, lost to two of them and barely squeaked by the worst.
This team is clearly not that talented. Saying so doesn't change that fact.

Yes, they have a pretty weak schedule outside of TB, Bal and Buf twice. They also got a break when Cincy lost their QB. Hopefully they turn things around and go 12-6 or 11-7. I just don't have the same amount of confidence after seeing their start.

We disagree.

The fumbles obscured an offense moving the ball at will.
Yes if they turn it over 5 times every game they won’t be a playoff team, but we know that’s not happening.

Maye is a beast.

I’m not blaming the refs, I am pointing out bad calls. Do you think the PI on Davis was a catchable pass? You’d have to be 8 feet tall to keep your feet in bounds.
“This team” has played 3 games. Most of them were not here last year and very few before that.

Pittsburgh was a playoff team last year and Miami had a winning record. Calling them the worst teams in the AFC is silly.
Jets, browns,jags, titans, bengals without burrow are all worse than any team we have played

If you can’t see the talent, I can’t help you.

 

[borg]

He played a really good game except the interception and fumble.

But the kid is definitely improving and seems to be working well with McD's system. And that was my main concern for this year.

Not counting the two passes when he hit the "hands made of stone" defenders between the numbers?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Vrabel need the adopt the BB Philosophy in the Dynasty years. Play Player X where he excels at ie... Rham should be used Exclusively on Third Downs.

He’s averaging 4.7 yds/carry over the past 2 games (remember we completely abandoned the run game 1). He is more than a 3rd down back, he just needs to stop fumbling.

 

[PatsFan2]

pats WRs yards per route run:

Boutte 1.46 (45th/83rd)
Diggs 1.38 (49th/83rd)
Hollins 0.60 (77th/83rd)
Douglas 0.18 (81st/83rd)

Boutte & Diggs playing at a competent level & then Hollins & Douglas near the bottom of the league. Still, their leading receiver is only on pace for 800 yards.

Tarzan I'm not surprised: but looks at where Poop has fallen. I can't take it.

 

[mgteich]

Maye is far from being THE problem. He will continue to get better. His QB rating of over 100 yesterday and over 3 games is not terrible.

Vrabel is starting to deal with non-performers during the game.
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I still don't want Mapu in on running downs (Gibbens anyone?),

Also, we need to activate RB Jennings. The Stevenson situation is untenable.

 

[Ring 6]

pats WRs yards per route run:

Boutte 1.46 (45th/83rd)
Diggs 1.38 (49th/83rd)
Hollins 0.60 (77th/83rd)
Douglas 0.18 (81st/83rd)

Boutte & Diggs playing at a competent level & then Hollins & Douglas near the bottom of the league. Still, their leading receiver is only on pace for 800 yards.

Yet Maye is 5th in the NFL in passing yards. He is 2nd in completion percentage (pending goffs game tonight) he is 3rd in competed passes, is top 10 in passer rating and ypa and has thrown only 2 ints in 106 passes.

Imagine what he could do it his WRs got open more.

 

[Ring 6]

Maye is far from being THE problem. He will continue to get better. His QB rating of over 100 yesterday and over 3 games is not terrible.

Vrabel is starting to deal with non-performers during the game.
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I still don't want Mapu in on running downs (Gibbens anyone?),

Also, we need to activate RB Jennings. The Stevenson situation is untenable.

Maye is the best player on this team and it’s not even close.

Mapu doesn’t play on running downs.
Gibbens played the second most LB snaps yesterday after Spillane and should bd taking over as the starter, as I predicted in preseason.

 

[Ring 6]

The throw itself wasn’t necessarily bad, but it was 100% the wrong type of throw. He tried to drive to Boutte, when it certainly appeared he was wide open if Maye had of lollipoped it over the defender.

The throw was what the play called for and Boutte was wide open.
QBs don’t change a play to a lollipop. **** happens, Maye executed the play correctly and the DL swatted the ball. A qb cannot hesitate to execute a play to look at DL hands.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

We played good football in all phases except ball security (and bad judgment from Pop on the last play). We also got screwed early by the refs, and also on that late PI.

Aside from the turnovers it was the most solid performance I've seen from the Pats in a long time, so there's plenty of reason to remain optimistic. We were outplayed in week 1 but not yesterday. I expected to be 3-1 at this point but now it'll be 2-2. But I figured a loss at Cinci which I now expect to win, so 10-7 is still in play:
- Wins vs Carolina, NO, Tenn, Cle, Atl, Jets, Bengals, Giants, Phins = 10.
- Losses to Baltimore, Tampa, once to the Jets, twice to Buffalo = 7.

 

[PatsFan2]

He’s averaging 4.7 yds/carry over the past 2 games (remember we completely abandoned the run game 1). He is more than a 3rd down back, he just needs to stop fumbling.

That easier said than done it's no mystery. But after yesterday: Rham would not be my Teams' Primary Ball carrier going forward. Yesterday he lost that job: Rham is not a Rookie he now a Vet.

 

[Ring 6]

We played good football in all phases except ball security (and bad judgment from Pop on the last play). We also got screwed early by the refs, and also on that late PI.

Aside from the turnovers it was the most solid performance I've seen from the Pats in a long time, so there's plenty of reason to remain optimistic. We were outplayed in week 1 but not yesterday. I expected to be 3-1 at this point but now it'll be 2-2. But I figured a loss at Cinci which I now expect to win, so 10-7 is still in play. Wins vs Carolina, NO, Tenn, Cle, Atl, Jets, Bengals, Giants = 9. Beat Jets twice = 10.

That’s 10 but you missed Miami at home.
Tampa is certainly not in winnable nor is a split with Buffalo impossible.

There is a lot of season left and a lot of bad football to take advantage of.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

The throw was what the play called for and Boutte was wide open.
QBs don’t change a play to a lollipop. **** happens, Maye executed the play correctly and the DL swatted the ball. A qb cannot hesitate to execute a play to look at DL hands.

Ring I’m on your side about Maye, he’s playing excellent, but it was the wrong type of throw. Go back and watch again. Had he lobbed it, it was an easy TD.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

The throw was what the play called for and Boutte was wide open.
QBs don’t change a play to a lollipop. **** happens, Maye executed the play correctly and the DL swatted the ball. A qb cannot hesitate to execute a play to look at DL hands.

No but he's got to throw it higher and hope his receiver can leap to make a play. Doesn't need to worry about an overthrow being an int in that situation.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

That’s 10 but you missed Miami at home.
Tampa is certainly not in winnable nor is a split with Buffalo impossible.

There is a lot of season left and a lot of bad football to take advantage of.

Yeah I fixed it after you saw it. We have a credible path to 10.