PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POST GAME THREAD: Patriots Lose to Steelers 21-14

[Ring 6]

I agree and count 4.

At some point, Hollins will be the backup at all three positions, a very solid #4.
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Given the receiving abilities of our TE's, there is no need to even have Douglas or Chism active.

Hollins is a terrible 4,5 or 6.
He’s playing 40 snake a game and averaging 13 receiving yards. How is that solid?

 

[Love The Drake]

Hollins is a terrible 4,5 or 6.
He’s playing 40 snake a game and averaging 13 receiving yards. How is that solid?

He’s a culture guy that’s it.

 

[Ross12]

No an NFL teams doesn’t take a guy they have doubts about and dedicate a game to prove whether he belongs. It just doesn’t work that way. They did what they felt was the best opportunity to win, and where the ball is designed to go is based upon coverage not an experiment.

Hollins needs to go. The only way he ever gets the ball is when he is the route the defense gives away. Any WR can get open on the plays he does, and then do more with the ball.
We can’t have a WR getting 40 snaps a game and gaining less than 13 receiving yards per game.

My point is they ran plays where Douglas was the first read. Maye hit him, Douglas couldn’t produce. So Douglas can’t exactly complain he didn’t get a fair shake when a younger player starts taking his snaps.

 

[Ring 6]

He’s a culture guy that’s it.

That’s what people say about a guy who sucks they can’t figure out why’s he’s on the team.

Exactly how is he a “culture” guy? Hes in his 4th team in 4 years. If he was a culture guy why wouldn’t those other trans have wanted to keep him? Why in the world would we want our “culture”!driven by a guy who stinks?
Hes a goofball, that doesn’t add anything

 

[Love The Drake]

That’s what people say about a guy who sucks they can’t figure out why’s he’s on the team.

Exactly how is he a “culture” guy? Hes in his 4th team in 4 years. If he was a culture guy why wouldn’t those other trans have wanted to keep him? Why in the world would we want our “culture”!driven by a guy who stinks?
Hes a goofball, that doesn’t add anything

I’m in agreement, the players talk very positive about him.
But to me he’s a waste of a spot, he doesn’t gain separation he’s not a Jump ball guy, he’s not sudden and he’s not a punishing blocker.

Definition of a Jag.

Time to move on from guys who can’t win.

 

[Ring 6]

My point is they ran plays where Douglas was the first read. Maye hit him, Douglas couldn’t produce. So Douglas can’t exactly complain he didn’t get a fair shake when a younger player starts taking his snaps.

Right, he was needed today, at times. I disagreed that they decided “let’s focus on Douglas so we can see if he belongs on the field”

The last thing any team cares about is a bad player complaining he didn’t get a shot. The entire culture of the NFL is you compete for a job and must earn anything you get, not “we have to give everyone their fair chance before we decide to not play them.”

 

[Ring 6]

I’m in agreement, the players talk very positive about him.
But to me he’s a waste of a spot, he doesn’t gain separation he’s not a Jump ball guy, he’s not sudden and he’s not a punishing blocker.

Definition of a Jag.

Time to move on from guys who can’t win.

Right, being liked isn’t a qualification.

And I think this perception is based upon him being a goofball, it causes reporters to ask about him. For the most part teammates are going to say good things a lot any player they are asked about.

 

[signbabybrady]

He’s a culture guy that’s it.

Culture of average I guess.

Remember what real culture was like a few years ago.

 

[Thunderhead]

He’s a culture guy that’s it.

Which is worth nothing when the team's culture is losing football and maddening amounts of penalties

 

[n1997y]

Like I said in the GDT. Cut Douglas. Cut Stevenson.

You can't turn the ball over 5 times and expect to win. A waste of a fantastic defensive effort, and another pretty damn decent day by Drake Maye.

If you call being tied for team lead in turnovers a damn decent day. I can see the “damn” part of it…

 

[n1997y]

Which is worth nothing when the team's culture is losing football and maddening amounts of penalties

And turnovers and ball insecurity

 

[Ring 6]

If you call being tied for team lead in turnovers a damn decent day. I can see the “damn” part of it…

Maye was good today.

 

[n1997y]

Today the Pats’ offense stank more than the Jetes.

Five turnovers. Turnover differential of -4 and lost by one TD so it wasn’t the D that stank.

 

[n1997y]

Maye was good today.

I disagree. He was consistently off target. Frequently wild high. Even if receivers bailed him out with catches they weren’t able to make the most of them.

Maye is the leader of the offense. The offense stunk today. He doesn’t get any credit for being good when they were all bad.

Five turnovers, two of them were on Maye. One in the end zone, turn that into a TD and it’s a different game. But he threw it into a Steeler’s hands.

 

[VectorPrime]

Maye was good today.

He certainly wasn't the problem. And was arguably one of the few reasons they had a chance.

I am sick of our offensive skill players only being capable of long ass dink and dunk drives. Yes Butte can be a deep threat sometimes but hes the ideal number 2 or 3 guy. We need a game breaker. The problem is that we refuse to extend ourselves financially and draft pick wise to get an established one.

In the offseason maybe AJ Brown will be available if the Eagles fall apart. IDK who else might be a trade target.

 

[n1997y]

He certainly wasn't the problem. And was arguably one of the few reasons they had a chance.

I am sick of our offensive skill players only being capable of long ass dink and dunk drives. Yes Butte can be a deep threat sometimes but hes the ideal number 2 or 3 guy. We need a game breaker. The problem is that we refuse to extend ourselves financially and draft pick wise to get an established one.

In the offseason maybe AJ Brown will be available if the Eagles fall apart. IDK who else might be a trade target.

Sorry, I call turning the ball over twice being part of the problem.

 

[VectorPrime]

I disagree. He was consistently off target. Frequently wild high. Even if receivers bailed him out with catches they weren’t able to make the most of them.

Maye is the leader of the offense. The offense stunk today. He doesn’t get any credit for being good when they were all bad.

Five turnovers, two of them were on Maye. One in the end zone, turn that into a TD and it’s a different game. But he threw it into a Steeler’s hands.

A young QB who is in a mess of a situation probably can't feel too confident if his running backs cant be trusted to not fumble the damn ball every freaking drive. Means he has to do too much or else they have zero chance.

 

[VectorPrime]

Sorry, I call turning the ball over twice being part of the problem.

There were FOUR turnovers by other people on the offense. FOUR. (The Pop Douglas debacle to Turnover on Downs counts as one.) I can forgive a tipped pass. The sack fumble is worse and far more on him but again, all told he was not the issue on offense and it must suck when you cant trust your teammates to not **** up.

 

[n1997y]

A young QB who is in a mess of a situation probably can't feel too confident if his running backs cant be trusted to not fumble the damn ball every freaking drive. Means he has to do too much or else they have zero chance.

He needs to worry about not fumbling himself. I have no idea what he was trying to do juggling the ball in traffic as he tried to start running and got stripped.

When I was racing we had a saying: to finish first first finish.

Translated to football, that says to win games first don’t lose games. He’s got his priorities wrong by trying so hard to win that he loses.

 

[Ring 6]

I disagree. He was consistently off target. Frequently wild high. Even if receivers bailed him out with catches they weren’t able to make the most of them.

Maye is the leader of the offense. The offense stunk today. He doesn’t get any credit for being good when they were all bad.

Five turnovers, two of them were on Maye. One in the end zone, turn that into a TD and it’s a different game. But he threw it into a Steeler’s hands.

He complete 28 of 37 passes. Thats 76% complete which is superb. He had 9 passes all day not caught. It’s impossible to be consistently off target and frequently wild high and do that.
The offense moved up and down the field if you want to blame him for Stevenson and Gibsons fumbled, you are a fool.
The int was batted at the line, a QB cannot control that.

Anyway, I’m not sure why in even responding to someone saying a qb who completed 76% of his passes was “consistently off target”. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.