Mike Vrabel not concerned with potentially having one player from 2024 draft class on roster (from WEEI)

[SammyBlueCat]

Mike Vrabel not concerned with potentially having one player from 2024 draft class on roster

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Even if Drake Maye ends up being the face of the franchise for the next 10 years, the 2024 draft class will likely go down as one of the worst classes in the history of the New England Patriots.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

What’s he supposed to say?
“Well we can’t compete, Wolf sucks at picking players”!!

 

[Thunderhead]

'22 and '24 drafts are pure abominations that will impact this team's ability to compete in coming years considerably. Drafts that poor simply cannot happen.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Drake Maye has to be really good for us to forget how bad that draft class was. 2000 was atrocious, but forgotten because it produced Tom Brady.

Top 5 worst classes so far since 2000:

1. 2024
2. 2022
3. 2018
4. 2019
5. 2008

 

[h0c2000]

I don’t think this marriage of Wolf and Vrabel will work. RKK needs to let go of the past and any idea about continuity and just make a clean break with the glory days.

 

[Toofy]

Drake Maye has to be really good for us to forget how bad that draft class was. 2000 was atrocious, but forgotten because it produced Tom Brady.

Top 5 worst classes so far since 2000:

1. 2024
2. 2022
3. 2018
4. 2019
5. 2008

I would flip 18 and 19 . At least wynn and michel did something.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

We have had a lot of bad drafts. Now we were picking later in each rd, but still.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I would flip 18 and 19 . At least wynn and michel did something.

Harris was better than Michel. Jake Bailey was a 1st team All Pro punter.

 

[Toofy]

Harris was better than Michel. Jake Bailey was a 1st team All Pro punter.

Sony contributed in super bowl . Again that's relative. Wynn had one to 2 years of good oline play. That's worth a lot.

Again we are splitting hairs here.. all said and done one of the worst drafting teams in last decade.

 

[PatsFan2]

Mike Vrabel not concerned with potentially having one player from 2024 draft class on roster

Lie Vrabel has potential.

 

[PatsFan2]

Drake Maye has to be really good for us to forget how bad that draft class was. 2000 was atrocious, but forgotten because it produced Tom Brady.

Top 5 worst classes so far since 2000:

1. 2024
2. 2022
3. 2018
4. 2019
5. 2008

Would love to be a fly on the wall hearing Vrabel and Cowden: criticizing that Draft; well deserved too.

 

[Bill Lee]

'22 and '24 drafts are pure abominations that will impact this team's ability to compete in coming years considerably. Drafts that poor simply cannot happen.

That feeds into the narrative that I agree with that the main issue the Patriots have this year is lack of depth. People projecting high win counts just look at the starters as if all of them will make all 17 games, but we know that is never the case. Vrabel's frustration seems to come from the fact that most people don't understand that this is the first year of a rebuild, even though we've had a lot of bad seasons in a row already. We need not just good starters, but also good backups too.

 

[mgteich]

'22 and '24 drafts are pure abominations that will impact this team's ability to compete in coming years considerably. Drafts that poor simply cannot happen.

Sure, 2022 and 2024 will scar the team forever. That maye fella won't make a difference at all.

If we want to fire Wolf and staff for 2022 and 2024, then perhaps we might include 2023 in the mix in his evaluation.
Gonzo
White
Mapu
Andrews
Ryland
Sow
Mafi
Boutte
Barringer
Douglas
Bolden

Other than the oft-injured Sow, all will have at least an average NFL career. Mafi, Andrews and Ryland may ALL be starting for other teams this year. Gonzales, White, Boutte, Barringer, and Douglass are top contributors for us. We'll see about Mapu and Bolden. I do expect them to play a couple of more years.

 

[Wozzy]

“Wolf didn’t have a system” or something… what a joke.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Sure, 2022 and 2024 will scar the team forever. That maye fella won't make a difference at all.

If we want to fire Wolf and staff for 2022 and 2024, then perhaps we might include 2023 in the mix in his evaluation.
Gonzo
White
Mapu
Andrews
Ryland
Sow
Mafi
Boutte
Barringer
Douglas
Bolden

Other than the oft-injured Sow, all will have at least an average NFL career. Mafi, Andrews and Ryland may ALL be starting for other teams this year. Gonzales, White, Boutte, Barringer, and Douglass are top contributors for us. We'll see about Mapu and Bolden. I do expect them to play a couple of more years.

Ya, I’m not going to give them flowers for the Gonzo pick. If they knew he would be this good they wouldn’t have traded out their pick to Pitt. The only explanation is they had Gonzo and Forbes rated similarly and would take whoever Wash didn’t take. So….we may have ended up with Forbes

 

[TheRainMaker]

Wynn had one to 2 years of good oline play. That's worth a lot.

Wynn had never been well in NE.

Harris vs Michel is no contest Harris was the better player.

 

[Ross12]

We have to keep in context these two things in regards to the 2024 draft:
- Wolf didn't have his crap together yet, for various reasons. Did not have the title yet, spent a lot of time helping Mayo find coaches because Mayo didn't know anyone, etc.
- The coaches didn't have a clue, so they couldn't help Wolf define a vision for the types of players they wanted. Even in the spring, they started OTAs late because they still didn't know what their own plans were.

Then look at the results:
1 - Drake Maye - while this might be easy to say "well duh, of course they took Maye", they very easily could have traded down for a nice little haul, so give credit for sticking and picking.
2 - Ja'Lynn Polk - remains to be seen as he will be back in 2026. He was a commonly held 2nd round value. That said, Wolf loses credit for trading down out of the pick where McConkey went.
3 - Caedan Wallace - IMO, he will stick on the roster this year and seems to be developing into a potentially decent guard. If he's starting at LG in 2026 then this selection looks different.
4 - Layden Robinson - seemed to be a pick that fit Van Pelt's system more than McDaniels'. That said he will probably return in 2026 as well, but I doubt he ever contributes anything.
4 - Javon Baker - was always a dice roll pick. If he hit, he'd be pretty good, but he was a known risk as far as the mental side. He showed well on special teams, so I am guessing he will float around on and off the roster/practice squad for this year and potentially future years.
6 - Marcellas Dial - a special teams pick, and he looked good on special teams. I think he'd be a nice contributor there this year if he didn't get hurt.
6 - Joe Milton - was flipped one year later for a 5th round pick, one round higher value. This pick was then traded down in the 2025 draft in exchange for an additional 6th rounder, which was later traded again for two late 7th rounders. So ultimately Joe Milton was swapped for K Andres Borregales, LS Julian Ashby, and CB Kobee Minor.
7 - Jaheim Bell - ultimately never worked out, but as a 7th rounder, not the end of the world. Most 7th round picks don't make it.

The front office also signed S Dell Pettus as a UDFA who went on to make the team, and probably will again in 2025.

So I think the idea that "only one player from the 2024 draft on the 2025 roster" is a little disengenous - two additional players are on IR, two more may very well make the roster, one was traded for an increase in value after a year, and a UDFA from that class is a fringe roster player also. Was it a good class? No, but to act like every single player has totally flamed out after one season is not right, either.

 

[Clonamery]

We have to keep in context these two things in regards to the 2024 draft:
- Wolf didn't have his crap together yet, for various reasons. Did not have the title yet, spent a lot of time helping Mayo find coaches because Mayo didn't know anyone, etc.
- The coaches didn't have a clue, so they couldn't help Wolf define a vision for the types of players they wanted. Even in the spring, they started OTAs late because they still didn't know what their own plans were.

Then look at the results:
1 - Drake Maye - while this might be easy to say "well duh, of course they took Maye", they very easily could have traded down for a nice little haul, so give credit for sticking and picking.
2 - Ja'Lynn Polk - remains to be seen as he will be back in 2026. He was a commonly held 2nd round value. That said, Wolf loses credit for trading down out of the pick where McConkey went.
3 - Caedan Wallace - IMO, he will stick on the roster this year and seems to be developing into a potentially decent guard. If he's starting at LG in 2026 then this selection looks different.
4 - Layden Robinson - seemed to be a pick that fit Van Pelt's system more than McDaniels'. That said he will probably return in 2026 as well, but I doubt he ever contributes anything.
4 - Javon Baker - was always a dice roll pick. If he hit, he'd be pretty good, but he was a known risk as far as the mental side. He showed well on special teams, so I am guessing he will float around on and off the roster/practice squad for this year and potentially future years.
6 - Marcellas Dial - a special teams pick, and he looked good on special teams. I think he'd be a nice contributor there this year if he didn't get hurt.
6 - Joe Milton - was flipped one year later for a 5th round pick, one round higher value. This pick was then traded down in the 2025 draft in exchange for an additional 6th rounder, which was later traded again for two late 7th rounders. So ultimately Joe Milton was swapped for K Andres Borregales, LS Julian Ashby, and CB Kobee Minor.
7 - Jaheim Bell - ultimately never worked out, but as a 7th rounder, not the end of the world. Most 7th round picks don't make it.

The front office also signed S Dell Pettus as a UDFA who went on to make the team, and probably will again in 2025.

So I think the idea that "only one player from the 2024 draft on the 2025 roster" is a little disengenous - two additional players are on IR, two more may very well make the roster, one was traded for an increase in value after a year, and a UDFA from that class is a fringe roster player also. Was it a good class? No, but to act like every single player has totally flamed out after one season is not right, either.

Nah, it sux.

I like that narrative better, much cleaner.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

We have to keep in context these two things in regards to the 2024 draft:
- Wolf didn't have his crap together yet, for various reasons. Did not have the title yet, spent a lot of time helping Mayo find coaches because Mayo didn't know anyone, etc.
- The coaches didn't have a clue, so they couldn't help Wolf define a vision for the types of players they wanted. Even in the spring, they started OTAs late because they still didn't know what their own plans were.

Then look at the results:
1 - Drake Maye - while this might be easy to say "well duh, of course they took Maye", they very easily could have traded down for a nice little haul, so give credit for sticking and picking.
2 - Ja'Lynn Polk - remains to be seen as he will be back in 2026. He was a commonly held 2nd round value. That said, Wolf loses credit for trading down out of the pick where McConkey went.
3 - Caedan Wallace - IMO, he will stick on the roster this year and seems to be developing into a potentially decent guard. If he's starting at LG in 2026 then this selection looks different.
4 - Layden Robinson - seemed to be a pick that fit Van Pelt's system more than McDaniels'. That said he will probably return in 2026 as well, but I doubt he ever contributes anything.
4 - Javon Baker - was always a dice roll pick. If he hit, he'd be pretty good, but he was a known risk as far as the mental side. He showed well on special teams, so I am guessing he will float around on and off the roster/practice squad for this year and potentially future years.
6 - Marcellas Dial - a special teams pick, and he looked good on special teams. I think he'd be a nice contributor there this year if he didn't get hurt.
6 - Joe Milton - was flipped one year later for a 5th round pick, one round higher value. This pick was then traded down in the 2025 draft in exchange for an additional 6th rounder, which was later traded again for two late 7th rounders. So ultimately Joe Milton was swapped for K Andres Borregales, LS Julian Ashby, and CB Kobee Minor.
7 - Jaheim Bell - ultimately never worked out, but as a 7th rounder, not the end of the world. Most 7th round picks don't make it.

The front office also signed S Dell Pettus as a UDFA who went on to make the team, and probably will again in 2025.

So I think the idea that "only one player from the 2024 draft on the 2025 roster" is a little disengenous - two additional players are on IR, two more may very well make the roster, one was traded for an increase in value after a year, and a UDFA from that class is a fringe roster player also. Was it a good class? No, but to act like every single player has totally flamed out after one season is not right, either.

Lots of excuses there.

Milton and a 7th for a 5th.
Let’s not pretend it was a great trade value wise