Polk & Baker revival.

[PatsFan2]

Really sad - but both of these guys are going to be selling insurance this fall.
Now, I do think Polk could potentially make a team if he gets some mental training.
He did okay early last year just based off instinct & mediocre talent.
I just don't know if he can overcome the momentum of guys ahead of him.
Baker is a loon - he's toast.

Seems like both Boutte and Bourne are having nice Offseasons. I don't' think Mack Hollins is a lock: Bourne offers more as a Receiver. IF Polk or Baker can't beat Hollins out: time for a new profession.

 

[PatsFan2]

We will see how it plays out over the summer. Should be entertaining at least. Players always get hurt and that will be the x factor.

IF Polk or Baker gets injured their time here will be very brief.

 

[jdlboot14]

I've been such a homer and loyalist for any Pats draft pick in the past.
I was thrilled about Chad Jackson, and held out hope for him and Bethel & Dobson & Thompkins & Price & Nixon & Harry & Thornton.
But I'm done.
If you can't show something your 2nd year, you're not going to make it here. (unless you're Troy effing Brown - an all time great)
We need to start cutting the fat, and investing time & reps & training into guys who have the mental & physical capacity.

 

[Toofy]

I've been such a homer and loyalist for any Pats draft pick in the past.
I was thrilled about Chad Jackson, and held out hope for him and Bethel & Dobson & Thompkins & Price & Nixon & Harry & Thornton.
But I'm done.
If you can't show something your 2nd year, you're not going to make it here. (unless you're Troy effing Brown - an all time great)
We need to start cutting the fat, and investing time & reps & training into guys who have the mental & physical capacity.

Looks like the rookies and UDFA are killing in OTAs. Maybe the 2024 wr class was horrid after first round .

 

[patfanken]

I've been such a homer and loyalist for any Pats draft pick in the past.
I was thrilled about Chad Jackson, and held out hope for him and Bethel & Dobson & Thompkins & Price & Nixon & Harry & Thornton.
But I'm done.
If you can't show something your 2nd year, you're not going to make it here. (unless you're Troy effing Brown - an all time great)
We need to start cutting the fat, and investing time & reps & training into guys who have the mental & physical capacity.

Slow your roll, man. It's ****ing June 2nd and there still in shorts and t-shirts and learning the language, culture and coaching staff. Very little of the offense and defense have been installed and there is ZER0 continuity in the starting lineups. In other words, people are still learning each other's names.

Everyone wants to see the roster support the very best players we can attain. I get the sentiment, but at least let them put some pads on and see what we have before we summarily call for people to get cut. This is supposed to be a competition.

After we see the results from the joint practices we will have a much better idea what we have. BTW- the way things are being done now, I believe coaches get a better measure of their players from the joint practices than the preseason games. Those are more important for the staff to practice their in-game operations than player evaluation since no plays their important players anymore. PSG's are better served to help coaches with their communications, substitutions and other of the dozens of things that go on behind the scenes on game days

 

[Huckleberry1]

Slow your roll, man. It's ****ing June 2nd and there still in shorts and t-shirts and learning the language, culture and coaching staff. Very little of the offense and defense have been installed and there is ZER0 continuity in the starting lineups. In other words, people are still learning each other's names.

Everyone wants to see the roster support the very best players we can attain. I get the sentiment, but at least let them put some pads on and see what we have before we summarily call for people to get cut. This is supposed to be a competition.

After we see the results from the joint practices we will have a much better idea what we have. BTW- the way things are being done now, I believe coaches get a better measure of their players from the joint practices than the preseason games. Those are more important for the staff to practice their in-game operations than player evaluation since no plays their important players anymore. PSG's are better served to help coaches with their communications, substitutions and other of the dozens of things that go on behind the scenes on game days

Ken, we have been through 5 years of suckitude, people should get as excited as they want about this team. For the first time in years there is light at the end of the end of the tunnel. People should enjoy and appreciate it it. If you need some negativity I’m sure Sam would be more than happy to provide it for you.

 

[maust]

If you need some negativity I’m sure Sam would be more than happy to provide it for you.

And at a very reasonable price. Sam makes his own so you can avoid the middleman markup.

 

[mgteich]

He had twelve. 12. catches last year.
12.
In 15 games played.
12 catches.
That's 12 more than you. And you weren't a 2nd round pick.

You can't blame 12 catches on 33 targets on gameplanning and offensive line, that's ridiculous. He played major college football in a power conference. A 35% catch rate and less than 1 catch a game...that's a bigger issue than gameplanning and offensive line, sorry.

Vrabel has a different idea. Otherwise, he'd be cut already.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

A 35% catch rate and less than 1 catch a game...that's a bigger issue than gameplanning and offensive line, sorry.

Not necessarily unfixable, but definitely not just the supporting cast.

 

[captain stone]

What? Somewhere in this vicinity is OK for WR4-6

Read VJC's previous post.

 

[captain stone]

Vrabel has a different idea. Otherwise, he'd be cut already.

It's not like Vrabel's some offensive savant either.

 

[zydecochris]

I used to deal with difficult students that way: tell 'em they have a last chance, that their opportunity is real and you hope they take it, but that it really is the last chance, and that whether it works is up to them. If they believe you about the "last chance" part, it can work, but if you have given them a succession of "last chances," you don't have what it takes to teach a roomfull of adolescents. When I used to mentor new teachers, I emphasized three things regarding "discipline": 1) Never forget: they have you outnumbered; you will never outshout them, 2) classroom discipline is 100% the result of the sort of relationship you build with the students, 3) Be in charge, but don't make such a big show of your authority (almost always as a result of insecurity, which they will see immediately) that you piss them off (see 1).

This summary of dealing with difficult students is very nicely written, I can tell you were an excellent teacher.

 

[Salsalife]

Diggs, Douglas, and Hollins are probably locks at the position heading into mandatory minicamp. Did we do enough in the offseason? Add Williams and Chism and that's it, DONE!

 

[signbabybrady]

Diggs, Douglas, and Hollins are probably locks at the position heading into mandatory minicamp. Did we do enough in the offseason? Add Williams and Chism and that's it, DONE!

4 of the 5 players you list were acquired this year. If that's not enough it probably says more about how weak it was before. I suppose it would also expose more evaluation issues with the position too.

 

[mgteich]

Diggs, Douglas, and Hollins are probably locks at the position heading into mandatory minicamp. Did we do enough in the offseason? Add Williams and Chism and that's it, DONE!

Williams is also a lock.
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Are you suggesting that Willaims is so bad that he could possibly be the first 3rd rounder cut by the patriots this century?

I know that you think that he will make the team with Chism, but surely he is a lock, certainly more so than Douglas.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Williams is a LOCK, People that say otherwise don't get it.
I feel Polk and Baker are on the fringe, Baker is obviously talented, but I think he has a 2 cent head... reason I call him #Dumbass
Talented? Yes, these guys are all talented, or the wouldn't have been drafted at all.
BTW, I think Chism is making the team.