Challenge the Bills

[TheRainMaker]

Then you have Tomlin who won 1 Super Bowl with Ben, but he is considered a great HC.

He's basically the modern day Cowher. Has had some decent to good teams, but never good enough.

 

[Ring 6]

He was traded becuase he wanted a new coaching opportunity and the Saints wanted to go in a different direction as well. He initially stepped down citing family and health reasons. So in theory he was traded.. what does that mean... or shipped out can't be said for coaches? Doc rivers was shipped out too... from the C's..

He chose to leave. He found a new job and the saints received comp. That’s not being shipped out. And if it was, his “expiration date” is 16 years, longer than 95% of coaches last.
Just say you don’t like him, no need to make **** up.

 

[Ring 6]

Then you have Tomlin who won 1 Super Bowl with Ben, but he is considered a great HC.

Tomlin depending on how you look at it, either benefits or is handicapped by Steelers management which has an approach that keeps you from sucking but also reduces your chance of being an elite team.

Payton is a better coach in my book that Tomlin. 1 SB win in a coaching career is a major plus considering average would be one every 32 years.

 

[TommyD4207]

Hot take here maybe but I see that quote being Mayo incapable of separating himself as a player from himself as a coach. I think his intent there was humility and speaking from a players' perspective of owning up to things even if they're not your fault and instead he shifted the blame to the players. Just speaks to his complete inexperience not just in Xs and Os but in public speaking too

I...don't care what his intention was.
He came off sounding like a buffoon, like he did so many other times in his short tenure.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Hot take here maybe but I see that quote being Mayo incapable of separating himself as a player from himself as a coach. I think his intent there was humility and speaking from a players' perspective of owning up to things even if they're not your fault and instead he shifted the blame to the players. Just speaks to his complete inexperience not just in Xs and Os but in public speaking too

It was just one of the many reasons why he was fired so quickly. I'm sure fans of other team laugh at how bad Mayo was just like we'd laugh at other teams bad coaches during the golden years. Mayo and Jim Tomsula are the worst HC's in the last 20 years.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I...don't care what his intention was.
He came off sounding like a buffoon, like he did so many other times in his short tenure.

okay

 

[A Defiant Goose]

It was just one of the many reasons why he was fired so quickly. I'm sure fans of other team laugh at how bad Mayo was just like we'd laugh at other teams bad coaches during the golden years. Mayo and Jim Tomsula are the worst HC's in the last 20 years.

Yeah it's just an observation of one of many reasons he just wasn't ready to be a head coach. Not really excusing it or anything

 

[Boston Boxer]

With a far better roster, coaching and overall direction of the team. It feels like we can challenge Buffalo for the division.

Yes of course the roster will work itself out by camp battles. Think back to the last few seasons of how close be played Buffalo with inferior talent. We should be optimistic as fans that we can challenge them in the division. Vrabel has built the defense to compete and frustrate offenses like the dolphins.. Justin fields scares no one and don't laugh me off the forum... but if seems like our WR room may be better than the Bills.

like to get posters thoughts on where have a chance to finish in the division?

short answer, no. Long answer, no, not yet. we still have a ways to go

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Josh isn't going to be able to get away from Barmore, Williams,and White this year, at least not very often.
This Frontline is going to TERRORIZE Mothafkrs....
I expect the LBS to have good #'s because of them.

Pretty Excited to see that, I'm used to the GMen doing it to US.

LFG BOYZ!

 

[Ring 6]

short answer, no. Long answer, no, not yet. we still have a ways to go

What would prevent us from challenging Buffalo?

 

[TheRainMaker]

short answer, no. Long answer, no, not yet. we still have a ways to go

What else do they need? This roster is the best in the division.

 

[TomPatriot]

It was just one of the many reasons why he was fired so quickly. I'm sure fans of other team laugh at how bad Mayo was just like we'd laugh at other teams bad coaches during the golden years. Mayo and Jim Tomsula are the worst HC's in the last 20 years.

Nathaniel Hackett says hello.

 

[Boston Boxer]

What would prevent us from challenging Buffalo?

Too many uncertainties. We improved the WR room, but is it enough? The OLine is better on paper, but is it good enough?

 

[Ring 6]

Too many uncertainties. We improved the WR room, but is it enough? The OLine is better on paper, but is it good enough?

Uncertainties don’t prevent you from challenging they just give you doubt at this point whether they can.

I don’t see the OL or WR position preventing us from challenging. I don’t think either will be worse than average-ish.
We play 8 games against them that won 5 or less games last grad and none jump out as improved. Beating them and going 3-6 against the rest which only includes 3 opponents better than 10-7 and 4 between 6 and 9 wins and we are contending with the Bills.

 

[Ring 6]

It was just one of the many reasons why he was fired so quickly. I'm sure fans of other team laugh at how bad Mayo was just like we'd laugh at other teams bad coaches during the golden years. Mayo and Jim Tomsula are the worst HC's in the last 20 years.

Tomsula was a great DL coach.
Mayo wasn’t even a good assistant.

 

[Boomer B]

What else do they need? This roster is the best in the division.

We are back to back a 4 win team. We used to laugh at teams like the JETE who would win the off-season and proclaim how great they were gonna be. We seemed to have a good draft and FA period, but the reality is while the draft picks look good on paper, we don’t know yet how they’ll play.

Let’s win some games before acting like JETE fans and proclaiming we have the best roster in the division.

 

[Ring 6]

We are back to back a 4 win team. We used to laugh at teams like the JETE who would win the off-season and proclaim how great they were gonna be. We seemed to have a good draft and FA period, but the reality is while the draft picks look good on paper, we don’t know yet how they’ll play.

Let’s win some games before acting like JETE fans and proclaiming we have the best roster in the division.

Remember last winter when people were saying we can’t fire Mayo after one year because we would look like the jets? Was that you?

Why would a fan who is optimistic and thinks we built the best roster in the division not say so? There isn’t valor in being meek.

 

[Boomer B]

Remember last winter when people were saying we can’t fire Mayo after one year because we would look like the jets? Was that you?

Why would a fan who is optimistic and thinks we built the best roster in the division not say so? There isn’t valor in being meek.

I was all for firing Mayo. In terms of saying we have the best roster in the division…well, why stop there Andy. Back to back 4 win seasons be damned, we got the best roster in the league! And not just the best roster in the league, the best Patriots roster ever!!

I think some of us just think it’s best to play some games before declaring a 4 win team has the best roster in the division.

 

[TheRainMaker]

We are back to back a 4 win team. We used to laugh at teams like the JETE who would win the off-season and proclaim how great they were gonna be. We seemed to have a good draft and FA period, but the reality is while the draft picks look good on paper, we don’t know yet how they’ll play.

Let’s win some games before acting like JETE fans and proclaiming we have the best roster in the division.

That's fine to see how they play, but I've already seen how their acquisitions have played with their former teams (not including rookies) to feel comfortable enough to think they will contend for at least a playoff spot which isn't much to ask for. In fact, the 2021 team was way worse, but got 10 wins and the 7th spot.

The only way they are a 4 win team is if all their FA's and draft picks are busts, Barmore can't play and Maye has a bad year. Other than that, this roster should win at least 9 games this season.

 

[Boomer B]

That's fine to see how they play, but I've already seen how their acquisitions have played with their former teams (not including rookies) to feel comfortable enough to think they will contend for at least a playoff spot which isn't much to ask for. In fact, the 2021 team was way worse, but got 10 wins and the 7th spot.

The only way they are a 4 win team is if all their FA's and draft picks are busts, Barmore can't play and Maye has a bad year. Other than that, this roster should win at least 9 games this season.

I agree they aren’t a 4 win team this year, and if things fall right maybe we can push for a playoff spot, but as of right now we have too many question marks and a lack of depth to say we have the best roster in the division, especially since the Bills have been toying with us for the last 5 years. Let’s earn it first.