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How did I miss that we got Ponder?
Holy crap we hit on UDFAs too!
He was a projected 5th rounder.
Nice situational Pass Rusher.
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Holy crap we hit on UDFAs too!
He was a projected 5th rounder.
For a draft that was weak at the top, it seems to have extraordinary depth to where we are high on several UDFA signings.I see a lot of interesting projects to work with.
hopefully a few pan out.
WR appears to be a crowded group already. But FB. blocking TE. 4th RB
the guaranteed dollars we hear about imo are meaningless. sure, they wanted the player here. but someone like Conley appears to be a player the Pats might want to stick around and work with for the full season.
It sure looks like you are correct. We will see how these guys pan out, how many dont work out.For a draft that was weak at the top, it seems to have extraordinary depth to where we are high on several UDFA signings.
This is pure newness bias here. I understand Chism has to produce to make the team. But I also think he provides a short area quickness skill set we don’t have beyond Douglas.
I can see our WR’s looking like:
Outside: Diggs and Williams as roster locks
Hollins, Boutte, Bourne, Polk and Baker
battling for 2 spots
Hollins likely a big leg up on one of the spots
Slot: Douglas and Chism
For a draft that was weak at the top, it seems to have extraordinary depth to where we are high on several UDFA signings.
Ponder is a small school EDGE that will convert to OLB? 6'2", 251 lbs is too light for EDGE in the NFL. His bull rush won't work on NFL tackles, Ponder is not big and powerful enough, but the guy is super explosive - a violent Vrabel type for sure. Probably needs a year or two to fill out and learn OLB, but his raw athleticism is impressive.
Ponder had the best vertical jump (41) and broad jump (132) in the 2025 edge class, and his 1.56 10-yard split was second to Garmon Randolph (Baylor). He was 79th percentile or better in every other drill. At 6027/251, he doesn’t have the prototypical size for a three-down edge defender, but he’s far from an outlier in the modern NFL and his length is actually decent for his position.
Ponder is a small school EDGE that will convert to OLB? 6'2", 251 lbs is too light for EDGE in the NFL. His bull rush won't work on NFL tackles, Ponder is not big and powerful enough, but the guy is super explosive - a violent Vrabel type for sure. Probably needs a year or two to fill out and learn OLB, but his raw athleticism is impressive.
Ponder had the best vertical jump (41) and broad jump (132) in the 2025 edge class, and his 1.56 10-yard split was second to Garmon Randolph (Baylor). He was 79th percentile or better in every other drill. At 6027/251, he doesn’t have the prototypical size for a three-down edge defender, but he’s far from an outlier in the modern NFL and his length is actually decent for his position.
I would be shocked and appalled if the Patriots did this. Get rid of Slo-Polk first, eeesh. Last year Pop was the only guy who could get open. This year a lineup of Diggs, Douglas and Williams would be awesome.
Point taken but Pop Douglas was with the Worse Coaching staff assembled last year... plus he had to play with one of the worst QB's Brissett early on. Pop Douglas have a ton of excuses last year: he's our quickest WR to uncover: Josh will make sure he gets his opportunities.I like Pop's playmaking ability, but hear me out. He's not that situationally aware on the field and frustrates me against zone; I don't think he sits in open spots as much as he should. It's possible he may struggle in McDaniel's offense with sight adjustments. I hope I'm wrong, but there's a scenario that Chism comes in and plays the Welker or perhaps Amendola role in his stead. We shall see.
I would be disappointed if we kept Bourne, Polk and Baker and got rid of Boutte.Disagree. I think they can convert Larison to a slot receiver.
We need to see them all compete:I would be disappointed if we kept Bourne, Polk and Baker and got rid of Boutte.
TJ Watt 6'4 - 252
Nick Bosa - 6'4 266
Micah Parsons - 6'3 - 245
Alex Highsmith - 6'4 - 242
Von Miller - 6'3- 250
Brandon Graham - 6'2 - 265
EDGE players are not all like Dietrich Wise or Keion White. They're not all Elephant type like Willie McGinest.. Most of the edge players in the leageue ARE "OLBs".
I think people have looked at the Ds the Patriots ran for years under BB and that is the only style they know, we are obviously looking at different types of players now.
Let me guess. You thought all of last year's offensive line was interchangeable too just like Wolf and Mayo. Larison is a running back. Let him excel at his natural position before you ruin him like Polk.Disagree. I think they can convert Larison to a slot receiver.
BB was running a 4-3 Under system since 2020 with Peppers/Dugger pulling one of the LB positions..
I think that’s Chism’s only way to make the final roster because I think his lack of speed probably rules him out as a special teamer - unless they’re looking for a sure handed punt returner rather than one who can take it to the house.I like Pop's playmaking ability, but hear me out. He's not that situationally aware on the field and frustrates me against zone; I don't think he sits in open spots as much as he should. It's possible he may struggle in McDaniel's offense with sight adjustments. I hope I'm wrong, but there's a scenario that Chism comes in and plays the Welker or perhaps Amendola role in his stead. We shall see.
I would also be disappointed if they get rid of Booty, but if after TC they decide that Booty did not earn a spot then I can accept that. The staff sees much more than I do so their choices are more informed than mine and hopefully correct.I would be disappointed if we kept Bourne, Polk and Baker and got rid of Boutte.
There is timed speed and game speed. They are different. Edelman and Welker both were considered "slow" but both had Punt returns for TDs.I think that’s Chism’s only way to make the final roster because I think his lack of speed probably rules him out as a special teamer - unless they’re looking for a sure handed punt returner rather than one who can take it to the house.
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