Abdul Carter at 4#. Hunter has gone do we trade?

[PATSYLICIOUS]

go for the blue chippers if theyre there. We are slowly filling our holes via fa and can do more of that next year. Gotta shoot for studs in the draft, if you’re in position to land a blue chipper thats your best odds vs trading back in a weak draft.

 

[Huckleberry1]

What if the Patriots decided to select Jalon Walker the linebacker from Georgia at pick #4? Quite a few draft sites have the Pats taking this guy. I've watched his highlight videos and he looks so unimpressive to me. Constantly over running plays, not so agile and not overly quick. I would not be happy at all.

No thanks. If they were picking in the 20’s it might make sense, but not before then.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

No thanks. If they were picking in the 20’s it might make sense, but not before then.

I love Walker obviously, but in most drafts he’s late teens to mid twenties selection.

Man this draft blows.

 

[stinkypete]

The only way you pass up on Carter is if someone offers a young, established star. Need be damned.

 

[PatsFan2]

If Carter falls to us at 4# (of which there is a good chance) do we trade down. I'm sure there would be lots of suitors for him. Is a DE, no matter how good, a priority for NE in the first round?

I would Trade the Strong Edge Class.

 

[PatsFan2]

There ARE some legit questions about Carter. Is he big enough to withstand the demands of the game. His lack of experience at the position, and his age (which can also be thought of as plus). But in my opinion he would be the IDEAL pick.

FIrst he plays a position of extreme need. We had a HORRIBLE edge rush last year, and though Landry is an improvement, he isn't the solution.

Second he plays a position where rookies can make an instant impact. Like RB and LB great physicality can show immediately and it takes less time for a player to reach his true potential unlike, say, QB, WR or the DL. Of course, he edge players improve over time too, but Carter would be a player where we would see an instant impact on what could end up being a pretty damned good defense.

I'd be fine with Graham, but with the additions on the DL plus a likely return of Baremore he would be strictly a best player available pick. I'd also be fine with Hunter, who is more likely to be there. He'd make the secondary positively scary with Gonsalez. Davis, and himself out there. The schemes he would allow the DC to create would be awesome. And forget about the offensive possibilities even if they are limited. Or the reverse and he becomes a fulltime WR doing limited work as a DB in certain schemes. He simply is the most dynamic player in the draft. The art and skill will be how to use him most effectively to have a long productive career.

Hunter have a little Brother that's really good too Athletic Family.

 

[jdlboot14]

Man, Carter might be the most overrated top 3 overall DE I've seen. Sure, he's amazingly athletic.
But he is not beefy enough to set the edge in the NFL, and he feasts on slow college Tackles by his one speed rush around the edge.
But after NFL QB's step up in the pocket and he whiffs around the back (a la Winovich) every snap, what do you have?
An nice cover WLB. Great, but is that a #4 value?

 

[billdog3484]

How the **** is Carter falling to the Pats? Seriously people....

It’s really just as likely as him not being there. 1-ward. 2- sanders 3- hunter. giants (they don’t need de). Nobody knows what browns or giants are doing except browns and giants. This scenario is kind of not that unlikely. If the browns truly love sanders, you think they’re gonna be all over the world telling everyone how much they love him, so titans can take him or trade pick to someone else who wants him. Everything everyone says is bs

 

[mnpatfan]

Take Carter or make a team overpay by trading for a high first this year and a first next year.

 

[mgteich]

This may be the real issue. As we draw closer to Draft Day, Ward and Hunter seem locked at 1 and 3.
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I think it very risky to draft Carter and hope that we are able to use 2 or 3 picks to move up and get a good starting LT.

Hunter would clearly make a big difference in our success of our roster. It is not at all clear that Carter would have anywhere near the same effect.

 

[Grogan14]

This may be the real issue. As we draw closer to Draft Day, Ward and Hunter seem locked at 1 and 3.
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I think it very risky to draft Carter and hope that we are able to use 2 or 3 picks to move up and get a good starting LT.

Hunter would clearly make a big difference in our success of our roster. It is not at all clear that Carter would have anywhere near the same effect.

Definitely possible Browns take Hunter at 2

 

[Love The Drake]

Definitely possible Browns take Hunter at 2

Any chance if Giants pass on Sanders and Browns took Hunter, do the browns have enough assets to trade for 4 to get Sanders to match with Hunter?

 

[XLIX]

Definitely possible Browns take Hunter at 2

That's what the latest reports are predicting, then Carter at #3.

We won't be able to get either of them. Jerod's final revenge.

 

[Grogan14]

Mayo coukd have made sure we lost that last game. Run 90% of the time, vanilla defense.
Was it worth it to prop up Milton and Van Pelt both who are gone?
Bills were smart. Made us lose out on Hunter and extra picks.
Will never forget what Mayo did to this team

 

[TheRainMaker]

Mayo coukd have made sure we lost that last game. Run 90% of the time, vanilla defense.
Was it worth it to prop up Milton and Van Pelt both who are gone?
Bills were smart. Made us lose out on Hunter and extra picks.
Will never forget what Mayo did to this team

Mayo could've called run plays to just get the game over with, but he probably didn't because he already knew he was getting fired. He wanted to pad his stats and go out with a win which was why he was so aggressive on both sides of the ball. The plot twist would be if Milton audibled out of plays and chucked balls downfield.

Regarding the Bills, I don't think they intentionally tried to lose so the Pats miss out. Their starters aren't even that good to begin with who are carried by Allen and McDermott.

 

[Pacific Coast Patriot]

It really is too bad the schedule had us end vs a team that wasn't trying to win.

If we got Travis Hunter, it would've been the first time since Irving Fryar in 1984 that we'd have drafted a skill position player in the top 5 on offense (excluding QB). Wow - 41 years.

The only other offensive (non-QB) drafted by New England at a skill position in the top 5 was RB Tommy Mason in 1961 if Wikipedia is to be believed - that's wild.

 

[JayNM]

Mayo coukd have made sure we lost that last game. Run 90% of the time, vanilla defense.
Was it worth it to prop up Milton and Van Pelt both who are gone?
Bills were smart. Made us lose out on Hunter and extra picks.
Will never forget what Mayo did to this team

Mayo could've called run plays to just get the game over with, but he probably didn't because he already knew he was getting fired. He wanted to pad his stats and go out with a win which was why he was so aggressive on both sides of the ball. The plot twist would be if Milton audibled out of plays and chucked balls downfield.

Regarding the Bills, I don't think they intentionally tried to lose so the Pats miss out. Their starters aren't even that good to begin with who are carried by Allen and McDermott.

He really couldn't guys

seriously. Why would he?

 

[VJCPatriot]

How the **** is Carter falling to the Pats? Seriously people....

Titans take Ward, Browns take Sanders, Giants take Hunter would leave Carter at #4.

 

[scott99]

Why would we trade down if Carter was available at #4 ? Makes zero sense. Hunter & Carter are probably the 2 best players in the draft.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Man, Carter might be the most overrated top 3 overall DE I've seen. Sure, he's amazingly athletic.
But he is not beefy enough to set the edge in the NFL, and he feasts on slow college Tackles by his one speed rush around the edge.
But after NFL QB's step up in the pocket and he whiffs around the back (a la Winovich) every snap, what do you have?
An nice cover WLB. Great, but is that a #4 value?

I agree. He is no Lawrence Taylor; I never saw him run over a tackle. In the highlights I saw of him, he had clear paths to the QB....he will not get that in the NFL. But please keep the hype on him going so that the Patriots can get a boatload of picks for him when they trade down.