NFL News Official 2025 NFL Free Agency Thread

[Patsgofor4]

Yeah, if there was ever a team that needs to draft for need, it’s this one. We need to pick twice in the top 25. The best way to ensure that is trade down from 4.

There are two elite/blue chip players in this draft. If they have a chance to draft one of them, they absolutely should not trade down.

 

[Brick27]

Patsfan2 wanted them to take Marvin Harrison Jr. instead of Maye. Think of how screwed they would be had they done that

Yikes. Just peaked at a Fields thread and found some interesting takes.

 

[Ross12]

I can’t lie…I’m a little concerned

I think what he’s trying to say is that they are slotting players at least partially based upon what they know they can get out of them. So a player with a high floor may get priority over a slightly more athletic prospect who may not actually ever make it in the league.

Put simply, a B- athlete who played in the SEC and was successful, and a B+ or A- athlete who only played in Division II, probably get a similar grade under this logic.

Seems like it should lead to less whiffs and a bigger premium placed on guys with lower bust potential. Though it may cap overall talent to some degree since hitting on those higher ceiling candidates is a big win. But at this stage, their roster can’t afford for them to keep whiffing. Maybe they adjust their value model after a couple years and they have built a solid foundation.

 

[DaBruinz]

The WR room is a cesspool

Ignorant people like yourself said that about Brown, Patten, Branch and Givens as well. They proved you wrong with 3 rings for Brown and Patten and 2 for Branch and Givens. Not that facts matter to people like you.

 

[DaBruinz]

There were and have been LOTS of other options. You can not take that 70 million in cap space to the grave.
They could have gone more aggressively after Metcalf, Thuney, Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Cam Robinson, Tevin Jenkins, Darius Slayton, Davante Adams, Hopkins, Valdez Scantling, Hardman, Palmer
YES Wolfe is to blame he is "in charge". How about trades...other teams have done so.
The Offensive skill set on this team is ridiculous and embarrassing. The draft will not fix that this year as a stand alone measure.
This is now the second year in a row where UFA signings on the offensive side of the ball has been a FAIL.
Another year of Maye on rookie contract in danger of being a fail.
Wolfe said he is in charge...he has shown a distressing lack of boldness and creativity for 2nd year in a row. Not sure how that can be disputed.
Not asking for super bowl contention but find Maye some veteran playmakers and I am not talking about Bourne or Rhamondre Stevensons or Gibbs



Rant over

Your rant is pure ignorance.

At some point your dumb arse is going to have to realize the following:
- METCALF wasn't coming to New England. No amount of being aggressive was going to change that
- THUNEY wasn't coming back to New England. No amount of being aggressive was going to change that,.
- Coaches on the Pats have 1st hand knowledge of Teven Jenkins, Elijah Moore, and Cam Robinson. Clearly those coaches didn''t feel they'd be a fit.
- The fact you think that GARBAGE receivers like Valdez-Scandling and Hardman should have been brought in is proof of how desperate you are.
- Hopkins is toast
- Adams wasn't coming here. Neither was Slayton.

YOUR supposed football knowledge is what is embarrassing.
Wolfe isn't "in charge". Vrabel is. You have no idea what boldness or creativity looks like. You just rant incessantly pushing for change for the sake of change. It's stupidity.

 

[JayNM]

We got rid of him years ago

And now he'd upgrade (maybe) our ol

 

[1960Pats]

Giants Still In Play To Sign Russell Wilson

According to Pro Football Talk, multiple sources informed them it would be presumptuous to assume the Giants were no long interested in signing QB Russell Wilson after adding QB Jameis Winston to the roster last

nfltraderumors.co

This does not bode well for draft day for us.

I think that any team who has an over the hill QB like Wilson as their starter will still need to draft a QB.

 

[1960Pats]

Your rant is pure ignorance.

At some point your dumb arse is going to have to realize the following:
- METCALF wasn't coming to New England. No amount of being aggressive was going to change that
- THUNEY wasn't coming back to New England. No amount of being aggressive was going to change that,.
- Coaches on the Pats have 1st hand knowledge of Teven Jenkins, Elijah Moore, and Cam Robinson. Clearly those coaches didn''t feel they'd be a fit.
- The fact you think that GARBAGE receivers like Valdez-Scandling and Hardman should have been brought in is proof of how desperate you are.
- Hopkins is toast
- Adams wasn't coming here. Neither was Slayton.

YOUR supposed football knowledge is what is embarrassing.
Wolfe isn't "in charge". Vrabel is. You have no idea what boldness or creativity looks like. You just rant incessantly pushing for change for the sake of change. It's stupidity.

You don't think Thuney wanted to stay here? I thought it was just about money.

 

[JayNM]

Ignorant people like yourself said that about Brown, Patten, Branch and Givens as well. They proved you wrong with 3 rings for Brown and Patten and 2 for Branch and Givens. Not that facts matter to people like you.

are you on the record comparing Boutte, Baker and Polk to Brown, Patten and Givens?

just so we are all aware

 

[Huckleberry1]

Yikes. Just peaked at a Fields thread and found some interesting takes.

Nicely done.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Yikes. Just peaked at a Fields thread and found some interesting takes.

And they have the audacity to criticize Wolf and the decisions he made. This team would have been garbage for years to come had they been the ones making the calls.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Yikes. Just peaked at a Fields thread and found some interesting takes.

Sam at least will generally own his past positions, mistakes or not. Patsfan2 flat out lies about them and pretends he never held them. Another example of this is how he roasted Wolf all season for taking Polk, yet a quick check of the draft receiver threads showed that he wanted Polk all along. And to be fair about, I liked Polk as a prospect as well, I just would have preferred him in the 3rd round, as I wanted Jackson Powers/Johnson with their 2nd pick.

 

[RobertWeathers]

We need to not panic. Pick BPA in the draft. We will not plug all the holes in 2025. We have FA in 2026 and the drafts this year and next. No need to panic. Don't waste draft picks and plan long term.

Agree. Except for QB, CB, and maybe D line we need talent everywhere.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I can’t lie…I’m a little concerned

I can understand projecting a player is a starter or a reserve based on their draft grade but not sure how that helps evaluating talent and system fit. Not sure.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Yeah, if there was ever a team that needs to draft for need, it’s this one. We need to pick twice in the top 25. The best way to ensure that is trade down from 4.

Hate to say it; because I believe in BPA, but certain needs can’t go unadddressed, and left tackle is one of those needs. You can live without great running backs or wide receivers, safeties, edge etc…You probably won’t go too far, but you can get by. If your left tackle sucks, however, then you are going to get your quarterback killed. So if they can trade down, pick up a 2nd round pick, and still get their left tackle then I think that’s their best case scenario.

 

[Huckleberry1]

This is a confusing statement.

Who ran the draft last year if not Wolf? Is he trying to say it was Groh? Kraft? Doesn’t make a lot of sense

I agree. Wolf was in charge, Wolf owns that draft, the good and bad of it. As far as a new evaluation system what’s important to know is whether it’s a change under Vrabel, as that should bode well for them, as it isn’t a continuation of the failed system under Belichick, and possibly Wolf as well.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I think that saying that we shouldn't draft for need is misleading.

Sue, we can go into the draft wanting to draft an OL or two. HOWEVER, this player should be one of the 204 BPA when he is drafted.

So, picking a LT at 4 doesn't make much sense since none of the OT's are at all close to that value. If we trade down, getting acceptable value for the trade down, now we are drafting at say 8 and an OT might very well be one of the three BPA's at 8. We definitely would like the player drafted to be able to fit it and to be close to the BOA at where we pick him.
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To be clear, passing on Hunter or Carter and picking someone else at 4 would be a major error. Trading down and drafted a LT at 8-10 would NOT be a major error, depending on who is on available.

You’re assuming that they have prospects graded the same way as Kiper etc…, and that’s not necessarily the case. They could very well see Membou as having the size, youth (20) and athleticism to be a franchise LT and well worth the # 4 pick. And the same goes for other prospects. We have generic draft rankings, they have very detailed and specific draft rankings and tiers. Bottom line, we will find out come draft night. Especially since they may not find a good trade deal, and have to make the pick.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

There are two elite/blue chip players in this draft. If they have a chance to draft one of them, they absolutely should not trade down.

In normal times I would agree. But a higher priority is landing one of the top 6 OT's, and they'll all be taken in round 1. If we use pick 4 on one of the blue chippers, we won't be in good position to do that.

 

[Patsfan1645]

You’re assuming that they have prospects graded the same way as Kiper etc…, and that’s not necessarily the case. They could very well see Membou as having the size, youth (20) and athleticism to be a franchise LT and well worth the # 4 pick. And the same goes for other prospects. We have generic draft rankings, they have very detailed and specific draft rankings and tiers. Bottom line, we will find out come draft night. Especially since they may not find a good trade deal, and have to make the pick.

This is key to me.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I can’t lie…I’m a little concerned

I don't understand how this is different. Were there no expectations for Polk or Wallace? And how does having expectations make them pick better players?

The more I hear about this whole thing about having a new system, the more it seems like they're applying a new coat of paint and saying it's completely different.