NFL News Official 2025 NFL Free Agency Thread

[TheRainMaker]

The Bills are the poor man's version of the 2000's Colts either losing to better teams or just flat out choking. They couldn't draft after 2003 and couldn't land any FA's. The Bills have a terrible roster and are lucky they are in an era that is surrounded by awful teams. If they had to face the BB/Brady Pats, they'd be struggling for a playoff spot.

 

[Ring 6]

But it’s an average.

If the cap is hypothetically $280M for 3 years then the team needs to spend actual cash of $252M per year on average. So if they only spend $150M in cash per year each of the first two years, they need to spend a whopping $456M in cash in the third year to get to the 90% threshold.

They wouldn’t be standing to the cap in that case.

Hitting that threshold doesn’t put you close to the cap. Look at it this way.
Regardless of the time frame your cap is salary plus a portion of signing bonus. Every contract with a signing bonus is more cash than cap until the last year when it catches up.

Example
5 yr 60 mill contract. With 10 mill sb and salaries of 5,8,10,13,14

After 1 year
Cash spent 15 mill
Cap hit 7

After 2
Cash 23
Cap 17

After 3
Cash 33
Cap 29

After 4
Cash 46
Cap 44

After 5
60/60

Cumulative Cap hits equals salaries plus the part of the bonuses that have been amortized
Cumulative Cash equals salaries plus all amortized AND in amortized bonuses.

If you spend 90% of thr cap number in cash you would be far, far below the cap number.

To date since forever, the difference between cash spent and cap hits is exactly the number of dead money hits that would be absorbed if you cut the whole team (plus the dead money for those cut previously)

 

[Ross12]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

 

[Rob0729]

I can’t stand their show. So I can’t even listen to them anymore even when Bedard or someone else is on who aren’t doing their contrarian act. But I saw this online. It is too funny.

 

[Love The Drake]

I can’t stand their show. So I can’t even listen to them anymore even when Bedard or someone else is on who aren’t doing their contrarian act. But I saw this online. It is too funny.

lmfao hack.

 

[Rob0729]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

I am not sure if McDaniels likes Bourne. Bourne had some great games with McDaniels, but he also consistently ran the wrong routes.

 

[Ross12]

They wouldn’t be standing to the cap in that case.

Hitting that threshold doesn’t put you close to the cap. Look at it this way.
Regardless of the time frame your cap is salary plus a portion of signing bonus. Every contract with a signing bonus is more cash than cap until the last year when it catches up.

Example
5 yr 60 mill contract. With 10 mill sb and salaries of 5,8,10,13,14

After 1 year
Cash spent 15 mill
Cap hit 7

After 2
Cash 23
Cap 17

After 3
Cash 33
Cap 29

After 4
Cash 46
Cap 44

After 5
60/60

Cumulative Cap hits equals salaries plus the part of the bonuses that have been amortized
Cumulative Cash equals salaries plus all amortized AND in amortized bonuses.

If you spend 90% of thr cap number in cash you would be far, far below the cap number.

To date since forever, the difference between cash spent and cap hits is exactly the number of dead money hits that would be absorbed if you cut the whole team (plus the dead money for those cut previously)

Technically true, but if a team doesn’t spend close to the cap in cash for several years then eventually they would have an exorbitant amount of cap space due to rollover.

 

[mgteich]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

There in NO full house at WR until at least mid-July. **** happens.

 

[Ring 6]

In my mind…we are set at RT (including Wallace backing up Moses), RG, C (Whether it is Strange or Andrews….and I like Andrews a lot more than most here do), and that leaves us with LG and LT. Lowe would make a good back up…I don’t think he was THAT terrible last year though. I also think Sow is better suited at guard too.

But fine by me if we sign a bunch of guys and let them all battle it out in camp.

We are average at RG and RT and yes Onwenu could be above average if he gets his **** together but hadn’t for 2 years.
Andrews is apparently being cut. If not he is coming off a major injury and is 34 years old. No one should call that a good situation.
Strange who I like played 2 games last year and we don’t know where he is playing.
Lowe was definitely THAT bad.

Did you not notice we had the worst OL in the NFL?
We have added an average RT.

We aren’t getting an above avg LT and you want to play guys who have done nothing but sucked in the league as the 5th.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a good OL?
Shouldn’t we bring in starting caliber OL instead of slugs to battle it out and we get stuck with the tallest midget?

I just dint understand why you don’t want good players.

 

[Ring 6]

Technically true, but if a team doesn’t spend close to the cap in cash for several years then eventually they would have an exorbitant amount of cap space due to rollover.

But it’s impossible to do unless you give up and try to suck.
If you spend 90% cash to the cap you are probably 50 mill under on a regular basis.
You example wouldn’t field a team.

 

[Ring 6]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

That’s not a full house at all.
It’s a 1 who should be a , a slot guy and a bunch of others that every nfk team has better receivers than.
I would throw away any one of them for a bad WR2

 

[hornetfb85]

We are average at RG and RT and yes Onwenu could be above average if he gets his **** together but hadn’t for 2 years.
Andrews is apparently being cut. If not he is coming off a major injury and is 34 years old. No one should call that a good situation.
Strange who I like played 2 games last year and we don’t know where he is playing.
Lowe was definitely THAT bad.

Did you not notice we had the worst OL in the NFL?
We have added an average RT.

We aren’t getting an above avg LT and you want to play guys who have done nothing but sucked in the league as the 5th.

Wouldn’t you prefer to have a good OL?
Shouldn’t we bring in starting caliber OL instead of slugs to battle it out and we get stuck with the tallest midget?

I just dint understand why you don’t want good players.

Agree. Will say that adding that average RT is so much better than the complete circus shi*show we trotted out there last year

 

[Love The Drake]

That’s not a full house at all.
It’s a 1 who should be a , a slot guy and a bunch of others that every nfk team has better receivers than.
I would throw away any one of them for a bad WR2

Douglas Baker, Boutte, the rest can go.
I see three spots up for grabs.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

I don't think Bourne could hold Kupps jock.
Kupp is a different guy, he is a guy that knows everything the defense is doing B4 he leaves the LOS.
He won't cost a lot of $, and he wouldn't be long term.

 

[Ross12]

That’s not a full house at all.
It’s a 1 who should be a , a slot guy and a bunch of others that every nfk team has better receivers than.
I would throw away any one of them for a bad WR2

I am saying full house from a total number standpoint. Not quality. Should’ve used a different term

 

[TheRainMaker]

While Kupp and Bourne seem redundant, I could see Vrabel preferring to keep several vets around that the kids need to beat. They also set good examples for their development.

Kupp / Bourne / Hollins / Douglas / Boutte / Polk / Baker is a full house, but I could see them shipping a young kid (or even two) off for a pick or a player swap.

I've been calling it for a couple years now, but Bourne needs to go. He said the Pats organization was toxic with BB, only to immediately re-sign when Mayo took over. He's bad news and needs to go. Maybe they wait to see if Bourne recruits Cupp, then gives him the axe.

 

[Ring 6]

Agree. Will say that adding that average RT is so much better than the complete circus shi*show we trotted out there last year

Yeah it improved 1 spot , 4 more to go.

 

[Ring 6]

Douglas Baker, Boutte, the rest can go.
I see three spots up for grabs.

Baker? Based upon what?
Boutte shouldn’t be more than WR4 and Douglas is the slot guy.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

That’s not a full house at all.
It’s a 1 who should be a , a slot guy and a bunch of others that every nfk team has better receivers than.
I would throw away any one of them for a bad WR2

It’s a full house until you realize that half of them if cut in camp probably end up on a practice squad. They need help badly at that area.

 

[Huckleberry1]

If Josh never left who knows what could of happened.

No doubt: Mac could have been leading the Patriots on game losing drives for years and years.

Man, I really miss those days, watching Mac The Knife slicing up defenses with 4, 5, and sometimes even 7 yard passes. No QB I ever trusted more to throw the ball to the other side at the most critical moments possible.