2025 Draft: Defensive Tackles

[manxman2601]

How much better is Mason Graham than the other 1st rd DTs? And the day 2 and day 3 guys?

Kinda seeking confirmation that it's better to pick him rather than trade down.

There isn't a massive drop off between Graham and Walter Nolen, Kenneth Grant or Derrick Harmon but it does exist. Where Graham excels is consistency. He was the no 1 graded DT each of the last two years.

As for the day 2/3 guys, there's some real talent although obviously with lower floors. You could, for example, draft CJ West on day 3 for your A gap DT (11th highest graded) and Darius Alexander as your B-gap defender (2nd highest).

You draft Graham because you want a leader & tone-setter to build your D/Line around. If you want extra picks or to draft a different position in round one, you can still find starting talent on day 2&3.

 

[manxman2601]

Whilst researching the answer above, I discovered just how consistent CJ West has been the last three years.

2022 - 8th highest graded DT in this class
2023 - 5th highest
2024 - 12th highest

Note - the drop this past season can be explained by his switch from Kent State to a higher level of opponent at Indiana. Across all 3 seasons, only Mason Graham beat him in all 3 seasons.

 

[manxman2601]

I count 9 players there that played key roles in their SB win.

 

[Clonamery]

There has to be something local worth choosing over those

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[PatsFan2]

IF Barmore comes back with Mason Graham we would have a Feared D! There's not many guys on the Planet who can do that at that size Mason Graham is a Special Player.

 

[manxman2601]

IF Barmore comes back with Mason Graham we would have a Feared D! There's not many guys on the Planet who can do that at that size Mason Graham is a Special Player.

Yup. I'm even thinking of bumping Graham ahead of Travis Hunter because of the 'build the lines first' mantra.

 

[PatsFan2]

I count 9 players there that played key roles in their SB win.

It helps when you hit on most of your picks and not accumulate Busts.

 

[Joey007]

All the more reason I’m not for drafting Graham at 4.

 

[bakes781]

He's going to slip into the 1st at this rate lol

I called it again lol

 

[manxman2601]

It helps when you hit on most of your picks and not accumulate Busts.

Yup. That's a 70% hit rate right there. I imagine coaching plays a part too.

 

[bakes781]

All the more reason I’m not for drafting Graham at 4.

Assuming Carter and Hunter are gone then who are taking ?

 

[manxman2601]

I called it again lol

thicc-six

 

[PatsFan2]

Yup. I'm even thinking of bumping Graham ahead of Travis Hunter because of the 'build the lines first' mantra.

Pump the Brakes manman: Travis Hunter is one of Two players I would take over Graham... Abdul Carter being the next. I think Hunter - Carter and Graham will all be IMPACT Players. I hope we get one.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yup. I'm even thinking of bumping Graham ahead of Travis Hunter because of the 'build the lines first' mantra.

I would like Travis Hunter for two reasons WR/CB. I think he's going to be very good at both the boy can ball!

 

[Joey007]

Assuming Carter and Hunter are gone then who are taking ?

Will Campbell. Franchise OT’s are too hard to find, even if you consider him more of an 8-10 value on your board.

If you truly don’t like Campbell at all, trade down.

 

[bakes781]

Will Campbell. Franchise OT’s are too hard to find, even if you consider him more of an 8-10 value on your board.

If you truly don’t like Campbell at all, trade down.

Yeah I'm out on Campbell in the top 10. He's a guard IMO.

 

[PatsFan2]

I called it again lol

He ranked 14 at the position on some sites how crazy is that.

 

[bakes781]

Pump the Brakes manman: Travis Hunter is one of Two players I would take over Graham... Abdul Carter being the next. I think Hunter - Carter and Graham will all be IMPACT Players. I hope we get one.

I still value the talent of Hunter but I'd be holding my nose with the card in my other hand lol

And the only way we don't get 1 is if neither QB gets taken in the top 3.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yeah I'm out on Campbell in the top 10. He's a guard IMO.

Yeah I'm passing on a T'rex arm Tackle also. That won't cut it at the next level.

 

[PatsFan2]

I still value the talent of Hunter but I'd be holding my nose with the card in my other hand lol

And the only way we don't get 1 is if neither QB gets taken in the top 3.

Really hoping unorthodox Tennessee or Cleveland fall in love with Cam Ward. S Sanders ain't passing the Giants. The Free Agent QB Class is terrible good for us.