Vrabel's Staff Discussion Thread (Discuss related news here)

[signbabybrady]

The prior rumor was that he was the guy who worked the most with Milton. They must like the work he did with him if that’s the case.

So now that’s 4 former head coaches who will be on the coaching staff - Vrabel himself, McDaniels, Marrone, and McAdoo — plus one former interim HC (Brown) and 1 additional former assistant head coach (Williams). Hopefully they’ll turn out to be good, but one thing we can definitely say is they have a ton of experience leading the ship this year.

"The only source of knowledge is experience." - Albert Einstein

 

[The Gr8est]

If the reports that McAdoo was working with Milton are correct, then keeping him is a good thing.

We have a whole thread around how much Milton improved and everything surrounding it.

 

[raduray]

So I just listened to Bedard during my walk and he's concerned about Marrone and others on the offense side in that they seem to be Vrabel's guys and not McDaniels'. I would think McDaniels would have insisted on staffing decisions before taking the OC position. Was he that desperate that he would giv that up, or is Bedard off base.

So now, in today's Q&A on his website, Bedard says Vrabel and McDaniels are in lockstep with regards to assistant hirings. Sort of runs counter to what he said on his podcast. But glad to hear it.

EDIT: Later in the Q&A he says "I now have no issues with the offensive staffing. More details to come."

 

[mgteich]

I don't have a problem with McAdoo I'd just like his job to be more explained in detail.. he never even spoke one word to the media.. let's see if Josh changes anything.

There is no reason for the team to explain the detailed roles and responsibilities of all their employees.

 

[n1997y]

So now, in today's Q&A on his website, Bedard says Vrabel and McDaniels are in lockstep with regards to assistant hirings. Sort of runs counter to what he said on his podcast. But glad to hear it.

EDIT: Later in the Q&A he says "I now have no issues with the offensive staffing. More details to come."

So, who got to him?

 

[Ross12]

So now, in today's Q&A on his website, Bedard says Vrabel and McDaniels are in lockstep with regards to assistant hirings. Sort of runs counter to what he said on his podcast. But glad to hear it.

EDIT: Later in the Q&A he says "I now have no issues with the offensive staffing. More details to come."

This is confusing. He started raising alarms randomly about this by himself this week only to completely reverse course, the same day that he released a podcast saying otherwise?

 

[n1997y]

Solving Ben McAdoo's mystery role in molding Drake Maye, Patriots offense

The role of Patriots assistant Ben McAdoo has been a mystery this season - until now. Here's how McAdoo helps Drake Maye and the offense

www.masslive.com

He passes the Tavai Test:

“Ben’s been a head coach, an offensive coordinator, he knows a lot about football and knows a lot about play calling. He’s been another voice in the quarterback room who knows his place,” Maye said.

 

[Dec54]

He's gonna be a star next season. Guy can hit and he flashed some coverage skills too.

I agree always thought he had lots of upside. Looking forwards to next season.

 

[Real fan 02]

There is no reason for the team to explain the detailed roles and responsibilities of all their employees.

What makes you say so? They had no problem detailing Glaser role.. or Wolf's role.. during the collaboration last season.. the Patriots actually went all in to be more sound with the media.. and even have a segment showing KB and pop going shopping... this was NEVER done before. However McAdoo was the invisible man and never uttered a word

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Zuma]

The Pats are retaining Ben McAdoo for the upcoming season, one of the few holdovers from the previous regime (special teams coaches Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinnare the others). But the 47-year-old McAdoo will work on the defensive side of the ball - in a role yet to be determined - which as far I can have been able to ascertain, he's never done in his collegiate or professional career. Your guess is as good as mine at this point. Sometimes you see NFL teams use former offensive coaches on the defensive side to help them identify weaknesses and how offenses might attack them.

 

[archstanton543]

The Pats are retaining Ben McAdoo for the upcoming season, one of the few holdovers from the previous regime (special teams coaches Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinnare the others). But the 47-year-old McAdoo will work on the defensive side of the ball - in a role yet to be determined - which as far I can have been able to ascertain, he's never done in his collegiate or professional career. Your guess is as good as mine at this point. Sometimes you see NFL teams use former offensive coaches on the defensive side to help them identify weaknesses and how offenses might attack them.

Patricia 2.0

 

[Huckleberry1]

So, who got to him?

That would be me.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Patricia 2.0

It’s not even close to being the same thing

 

[State]

My initial reaction was I want nothing to do with Josh McDaniels. I wanted a fresh start and a clean break from the dynasty. The more I think about it though, the more I think he is the right guy.

The thing that swayed me was listening to Patriots Unfiltered the other day when they mentioned Josh has spent that past year visiting different college campuses studying college offenses. He has made a real effort to try and modernize his scheme and stay up to date with the latest trends. I believe he spent time at Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, USC and possibly more.

There is no doubt Josh is an excellent OC that can implement and teach a system, run an offense and call plays. If he can modernize his scheme and add some new concepts to his vast knowledge and experience, he could be the perfect guy for Drake Maye.

Excellent points. And he’s here for the LONG HAUL. That’s big.

 

[signbabybrady]

The Pats are retaining Ben McAdoo for the upcoming season, one of the few holdovers from the previous regime (special teams coaches Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinnare the others). But the 47-year-old McAdoo will work on the defensive side of the ball - in a role yet to be determined - which as far I can have been able to ascertain, he's never done in his collegiate or professional career. Your guess is as good as mine at this point. Sometimes you see NFL teams use former offensive coaches on the defensive side to help them identify weaknesses and how offenses might attack them.

Imagine that

 

[Real fan 02]

Imagine that

What-do-ya-do McAdoo...

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

4 HC’s on one staff
Whether you feel some were not good HC’s
They had to be good Coordinaters to get HC gigs
That’s pretty impressive as far as experience goes

 

[Huckleberry1]

I fully expect a Bedard column on Monday fretting about too much experience on Vrabels staff.

 

[Ross12]

The Pats are retaining Ben McAdoo for the upcoming season, one of the few holdovers from the previous regime (special teams coaches Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinnare the others). But the 47-year-old McAdoo will work on the defensive side of the ball - in a role yet to be determined - which as far I can have been able to ascertain, he's never done in his collegiate or professional career. Your guess is as good as mine at this point. Sometimes you see NFL teams use former offensive coaches on the defensive side to help them identify weaknesses and how offenses might attack them.

McAdoo was a head coach so you’d think he would have experience on all phases.