Vrabel's Staff Discussion Thread (Discuss related news here)

[Ross12]

Brown may get groomed by McDaniels as well, so in the event that McDaniels really kills it with Maye and somehow gets another HC opportunity in 3 years, Brown will be capable of stepping up.

Also the first time the Pats have had a "Pass Game Coordinator" which is notable. Curious if they will have a "Run Game Coordinator".

 

[The Gr8est]

Great hire.

But... the reason why he bounces around and can't seem to elevate is that he is not a great person. I think of him as the biggest curmudgeon in football. He makes Belichick look like Mr. Rogers. He makes Bill Parcells look like Robin Williams.

Well, Scar wasn’t exactly warm and fuzzy was he?

 

[upstater1]

Well, Scar wasn’t exactly warm and fuzzy was he?

Scar spent half a century in New England. This guy gets bumped after 2 years.

 

[raduray]

See?

He wasn’t just a Rooney file interview.

Good coaches will get hired. There is no need for the Rooney rule.

In fact, the Rooney rule is counterproductive.

One could argue that it was the Rooney rule that got him that interview. One can also argue that he would have been interviewed anyway. Good debate team topic.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Marrone is a great hire

 

[Steve102]

All of a sudden this team has a professional staff, as opposed to a bunch of guys who should have been in D3 college. Very excited about the future.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

All of a sudden this team has a professional staff, as opposed to a bunch of guys who should have been in D3 college. Very excited about the future.

Hey, we had a former HC on the staff last year in McAdoodle, that makes them legitimate!

 

[The Gr8est]

All of a sudden this team has a professional staff, as opposed to a bunch of guys who should have been in D3 college. Very excited about the future.

Including two previous HCs and one or two interim HCs.

Losing count.

 

[The Gr8est]

Hey, we had a former HC on the staff last year in McAdoodle, that makes them legitimate!

Who reportedly worked with Joe Milton, and the result showed.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Marrone is a great hire

Hoping Houghtaling really did show something with the Titans earlier, because otherwise hiring a Bears o-line coach from last year is just moving from the frying pan to the flame.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Great hire.

But... the reason why he bounces around and can't seem to elevate is that he is not a great person. I think of him as the biggest curmudgeon in football. He makes Belichick look like Mr. Rogers. He makes Bill Parcells look like Robin Williams.

OK not a great person, but a great football person.

These ex-HC smart guys, like McDaniels, are not great leaders but work well as sub-leaders with someone like Vrabel in charge. I value smart people that can make the right decisions and teach the correct methods and techniques. We do not need a lot of rah-rah guys.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Including two previous HCs and one or two interim HCs.

Losing count.

I think it’s 3 former head coaches (Vrabel himself, McDaniels, Marrone), one interim HC (Brown), and one assistant head coach (Williams). Not too shabby.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Hoping Houghtaling really did show something with the Titans earlier, because otherwise hiring a Bears o-line coach from last year is just moving from the frying pan to the flame.

I assume Marrone is the OL coach and Houghtaling will be learning from Marrone. If not, I agree with you.

 

[lancerman]

This is a legit staff. Still not excited about McDaniels, but this is at it's absolute worst a very competent coaching staff and at it's best a potential powerhouse.

The personnel is now the priority.

 

[203Pat]

What a difference it makes when you have a coach who has been outside the building and has connections.

 

[203Pat]

This is a legit staff. Still not excited about McDaniels, but this is at it's absolute worst a very competent coaching staff and at it's best a potential powerhouse.

The personnel is now the priority.

This is where I am at. I don’t love the "get the band back together" feeling, but I am happy we have experienced NFL coaches. So far, it looks like a solid mix of young guys with potential to be groomed and grow into bigger roles, and long-time and some seasoned coordinators with now a couple of former head coaches in the mix.

 

[Grogan1980]

I think it’s 3 former head coaches (Vrabel himself, McDaniels, Marrone), one interim HC (Brown), and one assistant head coach (Williams). Not too shabby.

Now let's get some players! (Please)

 

[Ross12]

The upgrade at OL coach from Matt Patricia (2022) to Adrian Klemm (2023) to Scott Peters (2024) to Doug Marrone (2025) is significant. Maybe Marrone can make something out of their collection of middling-at-best tackles.

 

[Froob]

The upgrade at OL coach from Matt Patricia (2022) to Adrian Klemm (2023) to Scott Peters (2024) to Doug Marrone (2025) is significant. Maybe Marrone can make something out of their collection of middling-at-best tackles.

I imagine he has the kind of seniority to be involved in the draft process

 

[The Gr8est]

Scar spent half a century in New England. This guy gets bumped after 2 years.

So curmudgeon finally finds his way home to New England?