CHANGE THE CULTURE? HOW ABOUT A "BLOCK BUSTER TRADE" WITH SOME OTHER PIECES ADDED?

[DW Toys]

Good day Cousins.
Missed you at breakfast. Two min-croissants with one egg appease, a slice of hickory smoked bacon and American cheese with some coffee and a side of cranberry juice?
Got to thinking on this culture thing. I weighed our assets and looked at our needs.
We have to overpay for two players ASAP. Ronnie Stanley and Tee Higgins. Overpay hurts but the FO brought this on themselves. I think players will want to play for Vrabel.

Now the tricking part that will no doubt bother some:
I am going to the Raiders and talk to Pete. I know some don't want to here this but Joe Milton III might be the third best QB if he was in this class. Raiders again will miss out unless they decide to gamble on Jalen Milroe.....yech! Milton throwing 60 yard bombs is pure Raider folk law.
We have the funds to do this deal. Trade Milton, one of our third Round picks and Pete is going to be looking for his new Earl Thomas, type saftey......... so trade him Kyle Dugger also for............Maxx Crosby. Crazy? I think not. You will have to extend Cosby and we can.

Now for a little side bar......I am trading a 4th Rounder to the Niners for Deebo Sanuel He has been beat up but he's only 29 and his contract is reasonable until 2027. Tee Higgins is a weapon but Samuel is a playmaker WE JUST DON'T HAVE! Think what Josh can do.

One more piece to the sauce. DE Jeffrey Simmons of the Titans would love to play for Vrabel again.....Why not about pick for him? He's only 27.
Now get back to the Draft. Get wout OT and Edge guy.

Are thes moves inpossibel? No.
This changes the face of the Patriots for 2025 and I feel make us a contender for at least the playoffs.

OK Cousins ...Toirture me.
DW Toys

 

[Love The Drake]

Sign Tee Higgins, Trade for AJ Brown,
Sign a fullback, sign another third down back, trade Stevenson, sign the two top tackles in free agency, get barmore back, trade for Simmons, sign Alex Anzalone, draft Abdul Carter, count the wins.

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[maust]

Now for a little side bar......I am trading a 4th Rounder to the Niners for Deebo Sanuel He has been beat up but he's only 29 and his contract is reasonable until 2027. Tee Higgins is a weapon but Samuel is a playmaker WE JUST DON'T HAVE! Think what Josh can do.

Not sure what you're looking at but per OTC and Spotrac Deebo Samuels' is a FA after the upcoming season, all he has left after 2025 are void years in excess of $32M
He was my very last draft binkie, when the Pats passed him up I promised myself 'never again'

 

[patfanken]

Love the possibilities, and LOVE your imagination with these trades. So let make sure I got you right. You want to trade Milton, duggar and a 3rd round pick for Max Crosby. That's intriguing no doubt. Crosby is an elite edge rusher and if you can add Carter or Graham you immediately improve your rush game 1000%. However, I would like to point out these thoughts. I just read an article that might explain Duggar's poor season. It seems, according to the article. the ankle he injured was misdiagnosed and he played with it and in a lot of pain because of it. Surgery this off season should fix the problem. As for Milton I would opine this. His game against Buffalo was an eyeopener for sure, but it was played against 2nd rate talent and probably wasn't game planned as thoroughly as most regular season games. But that doesn't mean he didn't come a LONG way his rookie season. There are 2 reasons I would be reluctant to trade him this off season. First, I think the Pats could use him within a package of plays and he might be a very effective back up since QB's get hurt all the time. 2nd I believe that Milton will bring back a LOT more in trade and draft capitol in a year or 2, more in the range of a first or 2nd if he looks decent during those times he gets a chance. His Physical skill set is as good as anyone else's in the league.

As for grabbing Higgins and Stanley in FA, I believe Stanely would be worth the overpay, but Higgins not so much. First I believe Cinci will resign him, and 2ndly, if he does leave it will be to a contender unless we MASSIVELY overpay. Being just the highest bidder will not be enough. Add that to the fact that I question if Higgins truly IS an elite #1 WR, and consistently create separation on his own, or was a lot of his success due to having a top 3 QB and perhaps the premier #1 WR playing alongside of him. No question he'd make the WR room better, but not enough to be worth of a massive overpay. BTW- I would love the idea of Deebo for a 4th all day
.

 

[Toofy]

Love the possibilities, and LOVE your imagination with these trades. So let make sure I got you right. You want to trade Milton, duggar and a 3rd round pick for Max Crosby. That's intriguing no doubt. Crosby is an elite edge rusher and if you can add Carter or Graham you immediately improve your rush game 1000%. However, I would like to point out these thoughts. I just read an article that might explain Duggar's poor season. It seems, according to the article. the ankle he injured was misdiagnosed and he played with it and in a lot of pain because of it. Surgery this off season should fix the problem. As for Milton I would opine this. His game against Buffalo was an eyeopener for sure, but it was played against 2nd rate talent and probably wasn't game planned as thoroughly as most regular season games. But that doesn't mean he didn't come a LONG way his rookie season. There are 2 reasons I would be reluctant to trade him this off season. First, I think the Pats could use him within a package of plays and he might be a very effective back up since QB's get hurt all the time. 2nd I believe that Milton will bring back a LOT more in trade and draft capitol in a year or 2, more in the range of a first or 2nd if he looks decent during those times he gets a chance. His Physical skill set is as good as anyone else's in the league.

As for grabbing Higgins and Stanley in FA, I believe Stanely would be worth the overpay, but Higgins not so much. First I believe Cinci will resign him, and 2ndly, if he does leave it will be to a contender unless we MASSIVELY overpay. Being just the highest bidder will not be enough. Add that to the fact that I question if Higgins truly IS an elite #1 WR, and consistently create separation on his own, or was a lot of his success due to having a top 3 QB and perhaps the premier #1 WR playing alongside of him. No question he'd make the WR room better, but not enough to be worth of a massive overpay. BTW- I would love the idea of Deebo for a 4th all day
.

This... Don't sell Milton short.. he could defly fetch a 2nd or potential first if we play our cards right and is a super inexpensive backup QB for next 2 years .

Carter will fall o us in draft and all will be good. Godwin will sign here and deebo too. LT will be a challenge but we could get lucky . This season is just to further polish and identify the diamonds . No need to sell heirloom to fund it. Patience..

 

[signbabybrady]

Throw in Meyers too

 

[Zuma]

Sign Tee Higgins, Trade for AJ Brown,

one or the other

Sign a fullback

Bell might be the guy

sign another third down back

sign a power back to backup Stevenson

trade Stevenson

no

sign the two top tackles in free agency

draft is better for tackles.

get barmore back

yes

trade for Simmons

yes

sign Alex Anzalone

no...he's be 31 next year

draft Abdul Carter

yes

count the wins.

7-8

 

[Hyped]

Good day Cousins.
Missed you at breakfast. Two min-croissants with one egg appease, a slice of hickory smoked bacon and American cheese with some coffee and a side of cranberry juice?
Got to thinking on this culture thing. I weighed our assets and looked at our needs.
We have to overpay for two players ASAP. Ronnie Stanley and Tee Higgins. Overpay hurts but the FO brought this on themselves. I think players will want to play for Vrabel.

Now the tricking part that will no doubt bother some:
I am going to the Raiders and talk to Pete. I know some don't want to here this but Joe Milton III might be the third best QB if he was in this class. Raiders again will miss out unless they decide to gamble on Jalen Milroe.....yech! Milton throwing 60 yard bombs is pure Raider folk law.
We have the funds to do this deal. Trade Milton, one of our third Round picks and Pete is going to be looking for his new Earl Thomas, type saftey......... so trade him Kyle Dugger also for............Maxx Crosby. Crazy? I think not. You will have to extend Cosby and we can.

Now for a little side bar......I am trading a 4th Rounder to the Niners for Deebo Sanuel He has been beat up but he's only 29 and his contract is reasonable until 2027. Tee Higgins is a weapon but Samuel is a playmaker WE JUST DON'T HAVE! Think what Josh can do.

One more piece to the sauce. DE Jeffrey Simmons of the Titans would love to play for Vrabel again.....Why not about pick for him? He's only 27.
Now get back to the Draft. Get wout OT and Edge guy.

Are thes moves inpossibel? No.
This changes the face of the Patriots for 2025 and I feel make us a contender for at least the playoffs.

OK Cousins ...Toirture me.
DW Toys

Hickory smoked bacon, eggs, croissants, and coffee is a SOLID breakfast, Cousin.

Yep, agree with the need to OVERPAY right off the bat on March 15th. No beating around the bush. Although, I'm a bit wary of Staley's durability (only played a full season in 2024).

Dunno about Crosby....we do need a pass rush in a terrible way....and I'd like to see another season out of Dugger too. But like trading Milton...maybe Milton & the #4 pick for the Raiders' 1st/2nd picks?

 

[Pape]

Good day Cousins.
Missed you at breakfast. Two min-croissants with one egg appease, a slice of hickory smoked bacon and American cheese with some coffee and a side of cranberry juice?
Got to thinking on this culture thing. I weighed our assets and looked at our needs.
We have to overpay for two players ASAP. Ronnie Stanley and Tee Higgins. Overpay hurts but the FO brought this on themselves. I think players will want to play for Vrabel.

Now the tricking part that will no doubt bother some:
I am going to the Raiders and talk to Pete. I know some don't want to here this but Joe Milton III might be the third best QB if he was in this class. Raiders again will miss out unless they decide to gamble on Jalen Milroe.....yech! Milton throwing 60 yard bombs is pure Raider folk law.
We have the funds to do this deal. Trade Milton, one of our third Round picks and Pete is going to be looking for his new Earl Thomas, type saftey......... so trade him Kyle Dugger also for............Maxx Crosby. Crazy? I think not. You will have to extend Cosby and we can.

Now for a little side bar......I am trading a 4th Rounder to the Niners for Deebo Sanuel He has been beat up but he's only 29 and his contract is reasonable until 2027. Tee Higgins is a weapon but Samuel is a playmaker WE JUST DON'T HAVE! Think what Josh can do.

One more piece to the sauce. DE Jeffrey Simmons of the Titans would love to play for Vrabel again.....Why not about pick for him? He's only 27.
Now get back to the Draft. Get wout OT and Edge guy.

Are thes moves inpossibel? No.
This changes the face of the Patriots for 2025 and I feel make us a contender for at least the playoffs.

OK Cousins ...Toirture me.
DW Toys

Would love to get Maxx Crosby...they might bite on the third, but I think some over value Milton

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Would love to get Maxx Crosby...they might bite on the third, but I think some over value Milton

Give him another year and if he has to fill in he may have more value.

 

[bakes781]

Not sure what you're looking at but per OTC and Spotrac Deebo Samuels' is a FA after the upcoming season, all he has left after 2025 are void years in excess of $32M
He was my very last draft binkie, when the Pats passed him up I promised myself 'never again'

Mine too. F'n N'keal!!!

 

[JohnJH]

Give him another year and if he has to fill in he may have more value.

I hope that he never has to fill-in (because that would mean that Maye got hurt), but his camp work and pre-season work, combined with teams that will see that he may be better than what's out there to draft in another year, and he could be more valuable. In the meantime, we should keep him as an affordable backup and groom him to be hopefully serious trade bait.

 

[maust]

Mine too. F'n N'keal!!!

I was all YES YES HE'S STILL THERE!
The pick got made... I was stunned for a moment yelled "FUDGE!!!" (except it wasn't fudge) shut off the draft, got on my motorcycle and rode... for a while.

 

[JohnJH]

Would love to get Maxx Crosby...they might bite on the third, but I think some over value Milton

If they took just a 3rd Rounder (and maybe a 4th in 2026) for Crosby, would you make that deal Pape?

 

[bakes781]

I was all YES YES HE'S STILL THERE!
The pick got made... I was stunned for a moment yelled "FUDGE!!!" (except it wasn't fudge) shut off the draft, got on my motorcycle and rode... for a while.

This was the clip that sold me

 

[Pape]

If they took just a 3rd Rounder (and maybe a 4th in 2026) for Crosby, would you make that deal Pape?

for a 27 year old all pro defensive end? Yes.

 

[JohnJH]

for a 27 year old all pro defensive end? Yes.

I did suspect that my question to you would be a rhetorical one. Just wanted to check though.

 

[signbabybrady]

I was all YES YES HE'S STILL THERE!
The pick got made... I was stunned for a moment yelled "FUDGE!!!" (except it wasn't fudge) shut off the draft, got on my motorcycle and rode... for a while.

Had to Turn the Page?

 

[maust]

Had to Turn the Page?

Sadly, it was all Still The Same
My dream was Against The Wind