Brady vs Belichick: The Verdict

[Ring 6]

BB traded Jimmy per Krafts orders. That is a fact.

Another reason for BB to make Brady leave. Fact. Kraft stated if it was up to him, Brady would stay or retire a NEP. Fact.

No it is not. BB traded Jimmy G because his contract was expiring and he couldnt sign a backup to starter money and keep winning SBs.

If it was up to BB Brady would have stayed and retired a Patriot.

While pretty much nothing you say is a fact (perhaps you should look up the difference between fact an opinion) an actual fact is Kraft publicly stated that he personally negotiated Brady’s contracts.

 

[Triumph]

It was up to him

Yes, keep Brady and fire Belichick or keep Belichick and let Brady walk.

Kraft made the wrong decision.

 

[signbabybrady]

Yes, keep Brady and fire Belichick or keep Belichick and let Brady walk.

Kraft made the wrong decision.

Those weren't the only options. He had them both under contract and he had franchise tag options. He could have been more of a **** about it. In July before the 2019 season Kraft caved to Brady's pressure but given hindsight what did that accomplish other than giving Brady an out at the end of the year.

 

[Triumph]

No it is not. BB traded Jimmy G because his contract was expiring and he couldnt sign a backup to starter money and keep winning SBs.

If it was up to BB Brady would have stayed and retired a Patriot.

While pretty much nothing you say is a fact (perhaps you should look up the difference between fact an opinion) an actual fact is Kraft publicly stated that he personally negotiated Brady’s contracts.

Always live by your creed that what you posted is not a lie if you believe its true.

Facts and you have really never been on the same planet. BB was pushing Brady out as early as 2014 and his plan was to go with Jimmy.

Robert Kraft: Bill Belichick told me Tom Brady was done before winning Buccaneers Super Bowl

Nostradamus, Bill Belichick was not.

nypost.com

 

[Triumph]

Those weren't the only options. He had them both under contract and he had franchise tag options. He could have been more of a **** about it. In July before the 2019 season Kraft caved to Brady's pressure but given hindsight what did that accomplish other than giving Brady an out at the end of the year.

If BB was staying Brady was leaving.

 

[signbabybrady]

If BB was staying Brady was leaving.

Again obviously this is with the benefit of hindsight but Kraft could have just let him retire or trade him for assets but instead he tried something else that lead to him walking anyway.

Taking hindsight out of it I know what Kraft was trying to do and maybe if 2019 played different it could have worked but it didn't and all I'm saying is there were other options however difficult they may have been on Kraft.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Fake news

Brady went crying to Kraft because Jimmy was popping off telling other players that the Pats were his team now. BB was tired of Brady's BS with Alex Guerrero peddling TB12 to the players when Belichicks trainers prescribed what the team ordered. Brady created chaos and BB wanted Brady gone.

Bill Belichick was 'furious and demoralized' after being ordered to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, and then made a deal that helped the QB more than the team

The shocking trade of Jimmy Garoppolo was reportedly part of a power struggle within the Patriots organization.

www.businessinsider.com

That story is fake. He lost respect in the locker room and was never going to play a down in NE after the **** he pulled.

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[Ring 6]

Always live by your creed that what you posted is not a lie if you believe its true.

Facts and you have really never been on the same planet. BB was pushing Brady out as early as 2014 and his plan was to go with Jimmy.

Robert Kraft: Bill Belichick told me Tom Brady was done before winning Buccaneers Super Bowl

Nostradamus, Bill Belichick was not.

nypost.com

You don’t understand the difference between fact and an opinion.

The fact in this issue is you are wrong because what you suggest actual was presented, John Lynch asked to trade for Brady and Belichick laughed at him.
It refutes every opinion you are spewing, with fact.

 

[vicspats]

This ^

You needed both for the dynasty, Brady offenses and BB defenses.

That being said BB and Weis drafted and developed Tom. He was far from a finished product when drafted. On a terrible team nobody outside of Michigan fans would even know who Brady was. The same way Bill wouldn’t have been as successful with Bledsoe at QB.

This whole “versus” thing is dumb.

Yup .. and catching many of his college games he was ok to good .. nothing spectacular. When he got drafted in the 6 th I was like … he’s probly not even going to make this team.

 

[vicspats]

This is all a matter of taste and social level.

Brady was married to someone who literally made more money than any model in the history of the profession based on her looks. Belichick's girl ain't ever making that kind career out of her looks. She's cute, but Tom Brady could quite easily go to any college in the country and walk away with a 20 something that blows her out of the water. When he bagged Giselle it was right after she was dating Leo who was like the hearthrob for teens and 20 somethings in that era.

Likewise, Kraft married Myra in his 20's long before most of his success. He's now married to an ophthalmologist that is 33 years younger than him who has her own accomplished career and is very good looking at her age.

Bill's sort of the one that's doing a bit of the skeevy dumpster diving and doing the whole sugar daddy thing. Brady could get a girl like that. It's just not his style. Kraft probably could too, it just would be socially embarrassing for him with the crowds he runs with. I admire that Bill's just chasing tail and has the balls to not give AF.

I should have been clearer I guess. Not this bimbo … but I’m sure half this board would jump at the chance and the other half are lying to themselves. I’m talking about the Big boob blonde from before. Comparatively speaking she should have been out of his league. And not Myra … but the blonde 25 year old after her. And Giselle? I personally think she’s attractive , but again half this board would say she’s ugly. All I was trying to say was out of the 3 … Bill is by far the ugly short dour snot snorting curmudgeon. He shot his shot further than the other two … I could be wrong, who knows ?

 

[lancerman]

I should have been clearer I guess. Not this bimbo … but I’m sure half this board would jump at the chance and the other half are lying to themselves. I’m talking about the Big boob blonde from before. Comparatively speaking she should have been out of his league. And not Myra … but the blonde 25 year old after her. And Giselle? I personally think she’s attractive , but again half this board would say she’s ugly. All I was trying to say was out of the 3 … Bill is by far the ugly short dour snot snorting curmudgeon. He shot his shot further than the other two … I could be wrong, who knows ?

Bill is sexy af

 

[Wozzy]

Always live by your creed that what you posted is not a lie if you believe its true.

Facts and you have really never been on the same planet. BB was pushing Brady out as early as 2014 and his plan was to go with Jimmy.

Robert Kraft: Bill Belichick told me Tom Brady was done before winning Buccaneers Super Bowl

Nostradamus, Bill Belichick was not.

nypost.com

You’re clueless… both Bill and Kraft said they offered Tom a contract in 2020 and he decided to move on.

BB traded Jimmy back in 2017 at the very last day of the trading deadline in the final year of Jimmy’s deal. John Lynch called to trade for Jimmy earlier and got told no, he then asked about Tom’s availability and he said BB laughed at him. His words… you read too much gossip.

 

[upstater1]

Check out this clip of Edelman and Gronk where Gronk said Belichick called him 50+ times but he didn't answer:



When you realize how bad the presence of Guerrero screwed up the Patriots, it's mind boggling. What Gronk isn't talking about here is the fact that Guerrero was telling Gronk to ignore the Patriot coaches, so they tossed Guerrero from the facility. So Gronk became furious. But this act is also what enraged Brady and soured his relationship with Belichick. Ironically, when the Krafts reinstalled Guerrero in 2019 this is what really angered Belichick. Guerrero is the Yoko Ono of the Patriots.

 

[Triumph]

You’re clueless… both Bill and Kraft said they offered Tom a contract in 2020 and he decided to move on.

BB traded Jimmy back in 2017 at the very last day of the trading deadline in the final year of Jimmy’s deal. John Lynch called to trade for Jimmy earlier and got told no, he then asked about Tom’s availability and he said BB laughed at him. His words… you read too much gossip.

Youre ignorant.

Brady was tired of taking less money so BB could pay for a team only for BB to spend pennies on deadbeat WRs. Tony Romo alluded to this during a broadcast. Brady picked a new team with 2 good WRs in Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. BB wanted Brady gone because he was sick of his BS.

Youll never figure it out.

 

[NFL Mystique]

I have a much greater appreciation for Belichick after seeing guys like McDermott fail year after year. Or, watching Shanahan blow SB's.

 

[Ian]

I have a much greater appreciation for Belichick after seeing guys like McDermott fail year after year. Or, watching Shanahan blow SB's.

Bills fans are back to where they were in the 90s, only this time, they can't even get out of the postseason. I think we had the discussion on here quite a few times debating on whether it's better to not even make the postseason than to get bounced year after year after being a possible Super Bowl favorite. ... I don't know how I'd feel if that was the case here.

 

[sb1]

Bills fans are back to where they were in the 90s, only this time, they can't even get out of the postseason. I think we had the discussion on here quite a few times debating on whether it's better to not even make the postseason than to get bounced year after year after being a possible Super Bowl favorite. ... I don't know how I'd feel if that was the case here.

Definitely an argument either way. Maybe it's better not to make the playoffs because your draft pick is better?

 

[Ian]

Definitely an argument either way. Maybe it's better not to make the playoffs because your draft pick is better?

I don't know. I'd almost rather it be like 2008 where you finish 11-5 and don't get in. At least the season was fun/interesting (save for - obviously - Brady's injury) and we were all collectively just mad at the league when it was over for allowing lesser teams in.

I'm saying this jokingly, of course, but that was one of the few scenarios that would allow for a solid year without any misery in January.

 

[sb1]

I don't know. I'd almost rather it be like 2008 where you finish 11-5 and don't get in. At least the season was fun/interesting (save for - obviously - Brady's injury) and we were all collectively just mad at the league when it was over for allowing lesser teams in.

I'm saying this jokingly, of course, but that was one of the few scenarios that would allow for a solid year without any misery in January.

Yeah that was a fun season. Relaxing in a way lol. A lot more fun to watch than the last two Patriots seasons...