Celtics 2024-2025 Discussion

[Real fan 02]

Butler

Riely won't trade him here.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don’t know the exact amount but the C’s would have had to pay about 5x Walker’s salary in luxury tax or whatever they call it nowadays. It wasn’t due to talent he was released.
Not exactly sure why he was invited to camp in the first place.
The C’s are almost impossible to add anyone at the deadline as well. This is the team that will sink or swim unless a blockbuster trade is made.
That said, xfinity took away my nbcsports channel so I’ll be detoxing for a while not seeing them play.

Yes. I guess there's a report put there involving J. Brown moving him to Houston.. I hope not. But as you perfectly said they are about to be hit with a huge luxury tax. They extended all thier key players. So if it continues this way say for the next 3 weeks of the season I can definitely see someone being moved.. as you mentioned they can't add anyone they have to definitely be creative with a trade.

 

[RobertWeathers]

How so?

He's asking them to play D hard and they aren't

 

[jimnance]

He's asking them to play D are hard and they aren't

I like what Scal had to say today.
I'm paraphrasing but he bascally said maybe it's time to play the guys who are playing the hardest. Among starters KP has been playing hard. DW also but not shooting well. JT,JB and JH seem to be on cruise control a lot.
PP, Big Al, Kornet, Hauser always play hard.
Lack of offensive rebounding and defensive intensity are the main things missing. And most of us know those 2 things are mostly about hard work.
Maybe time to sit some of the stars asses down. Then play the guys the most minutes who are playing the hardest.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I like what Scal had to say today.
I'm paraphrasing but he bascally said maybe it's time to play the guys who are playing the hardest. Among starters KP has been playing hard. DW also but not shooting well. JT,JB and JH seem to be on cruise control a lot.
PP, Big Al, Kornet, Hauser always play hard.
Lack of offensive rebounding and defensive intensity are the main things missing. And most of us know those 2 things are mostly about hard work.
Maybe time to sit some of the stars asses down. Then play the guys the most minutes who are playing the hardest.

I read that as well. Agree completely.

If they aren't going to play hard they shouldn't play. Period.

 

[jimnance]

Its funny about star players who've just won a championship- a lot of them cruise more next season. Which is ********.
If you're on the court- you play hard.
All the time.
Then there are some of the greatest players of all time- who besides great talent ALWAYS played hard: MJ- can't ever remember him playing less than 100%. Larry Bird. Magic. Kobe.
Not to mention other HOFers who played hard all the time: Havlicek, Olajuwon, Stockton, Karl Malone, Mo Cheeks,etc.
If you need rest, grab some pine. But when you're on the court you give 100%.

 

[Real fan 02]

I like what Scal had to say today.
I'm paraphrasing but he bascally said maybe it's time to play the guys who are playing the hardest. Among starters KP has been playing hard. DW also but not shooting well. JT,JB and JH seem to be on cruise control a lot.
PP, Big Al, Kornet, Hauser always play hard.
Lack of offensive rebounding and defensive intensity are the main things missing. And most of us know those 2 things are mostly about hard work.
Maybe time to sit some of the stars asses down. Then play the guys the most minutes who are playing the hardest.

There is a young player who's plays his ass off and is a lock down perimeter defender I think his name is springer..he plays in mop up duty.. but any time he's on the court he's tenacious defensely and is s tough player at the G spot.. it may be time Joe tries to inject him in the rotation..

 

[jimnance]

There is a young player who's plays his ass off and is a lock down perimeter defender I think his name is springer..he plays in mop up duty.. but any time he's on the court he's tenacious defensely and is s tough player at the G spot.. it may be time Joe tries to inject him in the rotation..

Yep Springer gives all-out effort every time. Great defender. He's limited offensively so he needs to be with the right group on the floor. But yeah, give him so more run. Same with Walsh, a great defender but also has improved offensively. You'll never worry about lack of effort with those 2.
Look, The 2 Jays are the 2 biggest reasons C's are Champs. And unlike a lot of superstars, they're both great defenders. Add in the extra wear and tear of the Finals PLUS the Olympics and you can argue that very few players in NBA history have had longer or harder seasons than Tatum,White,Holliday and Brown. I throw JB in there although he wasn't on Team USA he was an absolute Dawg in the postseason and then maniacal offseason with ridiculous workouts like lifting while underwater.
So if any players ever deserved some slack, it's those 4.
That being said, sometimes even star players who play both ends of the court need a little tweaking about effort.
What should be going on is Joe reducing all 4 of those guys minutes due to the wear and tear of all they've done over the last year. Give them rest in that way. Just fewer minutes every game. But when they're on the court, don't tolerate any slacking. If they do, yank em.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yep Springer gives all-out effort every time. Great defender. He's limited offensively so he needs to be with the right group on the floor. But yeah, give him so more run. Same with Walsh, a great defender but also has improved offensively. You'll never worry about lack of effort with those 2.
Look, The 2 Jays are the 2 biggest reasons C's are Champs. And unlike a lot of superstars, they're both great defenders. Add in the extra wear and tear of the Finals PLUS the Olympics and you can argue that very few players in NBA history have had longer or harder seasons than Tatum,White,Holliday and Brown. I throw JB in there although he wasn't on Team USA he was an absolute Dawg in the postseason and then maniacal offseason with ridiculous workouts like lifting while underwater.
So if any players ever deserved some slack, it's those 4.
That being said, sometimes even star players who play both ends of the court need a little tweaking about effort.
What should be going on is Joe reducing all 4 of those guys minutes due to the wear and tear of all they've done over the last year. Give them rest in that way. Just fewer minutes every game. But when they're on the court, don't tolerate any slacking. If they do, yank em.

Agreed .. on everything. I think Joe ans the coaching staff have done a masterful job with management of the guys. They started have only played 14 games all together. But as your perfectly said the wear n tear on the guys. Go figure JB&JT have been in the post season thier entire careers! That's just amazing! I do like Walsh he's a tenacious on ball defender. He was in the rotation earlier in the season not sure what happened.. I can guarantee you if Walsh and springer got more time in the rotation the perimeter defense would vastly improve.

 

[aluminum seats]

He's asking them to play D are hard and they aren't

Gotcha. Just wasn’t sure if there was something specific.

And agreed. Effort is always the one thing you can control, so it’s not great to see. I have to say to be honest I’m surprised, I felt like this team would actually take winning the championship as something that just took a certain level of pressure off them that would allow them to play better. That did seem to be the case early in the season, but not now for sure

 

[jimnance]

GREAT ist half for C's vs Magic.
Boston just dominating the paint offensively. Effort level way up.
Only 15 3 pt attempts but made 9!
Tatum and Porzi sensational.
Both those guys destroying Orlando in the paint.
JB with hustle plays all over the court.
DW his usual hard-playing self but making shots.
C's 28 pts in the paint! When's the last time that happened?
These guys knew it was time to stop f'ing around.
Orlando is one of the top defensive teams in the nba and the C's were 60%+ from 3 and 60%+ overall. Most enjoyable game to watch in a while.
Now gotta play hard 2nd half. Magic with Banchero are a playoff team. They took Cavs to 7 games last year.

 

[Kdo5]

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Absolutely brutal loss, maybe the worst this season. Bad play from Holiday and Queta at the end of regulation/OT.

Queta should have been pulled after he lost a jump ball to Trae Young. Proceeded to wander out to the perimeter twice defensively which cost us and then failed to rebound a free throw. Ugh. Kornet should have been playing.

 

[ViperGTS]

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Absolutely brutal loss, maybe the worst this season. Bad play from Holiday and Queta at the end of regulation/OT.

This is what happens when you don't/can't bring in new blood. Got a bad feeling about this team now. Something is way off.

 

[Kdo5]

This is what happens when you don't/can't bring in new blood. Got a bad feeling about this team now. Something is way off.

This feels like a 2018-team type of loss.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

What the **** was Jrue doing? First that absurdly bad pass then fouling Young with no fouls to give. The guy is there to be a smart, clutch, situational veteran type of player. His contract pays him like a bubble all star, so this is expected. Pretty annoyed that he basically threw away that game even though there’s plenty of blame all around.

 

[Kdo5]

What the **** was Jrue doing? First that absurdly bad pass then fouling Young with no fouls to give. The guy is there to be a smart, clutch, situational veteran type of player. His contract pays him like a bubble all star, so this is expected. Pretty annoyed that he basically threw away that game even though there’s plenty of blame all around.

I forgot about that one somehow in the midst of a string of terrible basketball plays.

 

[Real fan 02]

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Absolutely brutal loss, maybe the worst this season. Bad play from Holiday and Queta at the end of regulation/OT.

Queta should have been pulled after he lost a jump ball to Trae Young. Proceeded to wander out to the perimeter twice defensively which cost us and then failed to rebound a free throw. Ugh. Kornet should have been playing.

Once again KP not in the line up what's new.. he plays we win.. Atlanta, Cleveland, magic are all teams right now that are problems for in the conference. They have size, speed and athletic ability that gives us problems.. aren't we 4th in the conference now?

 

[aluminum seats]

Once again KP not in the line up what's new.. he plays we win.. Atlanta, Cleveland, magic are all teams right now that are problems for in the conference. They have size, speed and athletic ability that gives us problems.. aren't we 4th in the conference now?

We’re still second. But it feels worse.

 

[Real fan 02]

We’re still second. But it feels worse.

Ok. Thanks for that.. it does feel worse.. we are going to have to adjust to what the league is.. young, athletic players with size at the wing position is what the league is about.

 

[bakes781]

Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Absolutely brutal loss, maybe the worst this season. Bad play from Holiday and Queta at the end of regulation/OT.

Queta should have been pulled after he lost a jump ball to Trae Young. Proceeded to wander out to the perimeter twice defensively which cost us and then failed to rebound a free throw. Ugh. Kornet should have been playing.

This was on Mazzula more than anything. Or should I specifically refer to their allegiance to analytics. I'm sure Felger is dying to rant about it Monday lol because they had a 3pt lead with seconds left. They decide to foul and it backfires big time.