Van Pelt Let Go Per Volin (Unconfirmed)

[Real fan 02]

more good news... just like the patsies... start the winning streak after the season is over

End of the Ja-rod Rust era.

 

[Ring 6]

AJ you saw this Train wreck from it was announced kudos.

Im sorry I was right.

 

[Ring 6]

I know most believe AVP sucks and that might be true. However he projected some professionalism, did right by Maye, and did the best he could with a **** line, **** HC and **** talent.

He is the coordinator. He shares responsibility for the **** ol and none of the offensive players getting any better. He also did a terrible job of not putting them in a position to succeed with his play calling, and evidently was the guy who held Maye out until the season was already pretty hopeless.
He was the CEO of the offense so he shouldn’t have excuses.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He is the coordinator. He shares responsibility for the **** ol and none of the offensive players getting any better. He also did a terrible job of not putting them in a position to succeed with his play calling, and evidently was the guy who held Maye out until the season was already pretty hopeless.
He was the CEO of the offense so he shouldn’t have excuses.

Sure he shares it. To call him the CEO is a stretch. He was more like a director and influenced by HC and ****ty job by the personnel dept.

 

[Zuma]

Still there...

 

[Hugepatsfan]

My expectations for AVP just were more akin to an in-season change interim OC than an actual real hire. He was like our 9th choice if I remember the reports correctly. He's never really been viewed as an actual offensive coordinator. He had one year of it back in 2009 and then never got a shot again until 2020 where it was mostly a token title behind a head coach that really ran the offense. I had zero reason to ever think he was qualified to design or call plays at an NFL OC level. This job was seen as radioactive and no one else wanted it. Some stooge had to take it and AVP was that stooge. That's how I viewed his hire.

I never hoped that he would be a good OC. I hoped that, once we took Maye, he'd do a decent enough job facilitating his development. No revisionist history here - Maye came in pretty raw in terms of reading defense and his fundamentals. If there's one thing I look back and feel like it was done at a decent level this year, it was the QB coaching. Feels like Maye made good mental and physical strides on the aspects of QB play he needed to work on. I doubt AVP and his staff did some herculean effort behind the scenes, but they seemed to do ok,

End of the day, I think they got the results they should have expected from hiring an OC whose resume screams "career QB coach" over actual "offensive CEO" type of coordinator. And out of the coaching staff performance this year "got the results they expected" is probably the highest grade in the class.

I'm glad he's gone because we need an actually qualified OC. But I just can't build up any strong negative opinion or vitriol for the job he did because honestly, he delivered on what I thought were fair expectations of him when we hired him into an unenviable position.

 

[TomPatriot]

I know most believe AVP sucks and that might be true. However he projected some professionalism, did right by Maye, and did the best he could with a **** line, **** HC and **** talent.

The significant development of Maye and Milton is the highlight of this dreary season.

 

[PatsFan2]

Still there...

Why??
?

 

[Ring 6]

Sure he shares it. To call him the CEO is a stretch. He was more like a director and influenced by HC and ****ty job by the personnel dept.

Isn’t that what Mayo called him? Or was it Head Coach of the offense?

I don’t think the HC really had any influence on him. I think he looked the other way and didn’t get involved. I think Mayo being involved would have been a detriment. I also think having a HC who shouldn’t/shouldnt/wouldn’t get involved may be even a bigger detriment, meaning Mayo couldn’t help so it’s better that he didn’t, but Van Punt would have fund better under close supervision by a capable HC.

 

[Ring 6]

The significant development of Maye and Milton is the highlight of this dreary season.

I’m not ready to give Van Punt credit for Mayes development over giving it ti Maye himself.
Honestly Maye looked ready and the coaching, play design and play calling probably held him back.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Isn’t that what Mayo called him? Or was it Head Coach of the offense?

I don’t think the HC really had any influence on him. I think he looked the other way and didn’t get involved. I think Mayo being involved would have been a detriment. I also think having a HC who shouldn’t/shouldnt/wouldn’t get involved may be even a bigger detriment, meaning Mayo couldn’t help so it’s better that he didn’t, but Van Punt would have fund better under close supervision by a capable HC.

I know Mayo called him that but I don't think Mayo knows what the **** he says 1/2 the time.

I do think Mayo has some say. How much he had I don't know.

 

[dliverey44]

How about Covington ? The defense was worse than the offense .

I think that they fired AVP so that he has an opportunity to find another job.

 

[archstanton543]

I think that they fired AVP so that he has an opportunity to find another job.

They didn't fire AVP.

 

[Zuma]

They didn't fire AVP.

IMO if Vrabel is the HC then he stays. If it's Johnson he is gone.

 

[raduray]

I actually think he held Maye back.

I wonder how much control Mayo actually had over SVP.

 

[archstanton543]

I wonder how much control Mayo actually had over SVP.

Not much considering either AVP ignored Mayo's order to bench Rham in the Chargers game or the message never got to AVP from Mayo. Either way it's a terrible look.

 

[raduray]

I have my concerns about Josh becoming O C... Our Q B has shown a fondness for the West coast scheme. Josh seems to be locked in with the difficult E and A scheme. I don't think we should saddle our yong Q B with having to learn that system. We have seen veterans fail at grasping the scheme. We are going to have a team with younger players. No need to descourage them with the system Josh likes...

Caley? He’s now had two years under McVey.

I know most believe AVP sucks and that might be true. However he projected some professionalism, did right by Maye, and did the best he could with a **** line, **** HC and **** talent.

And as we saw in the last gene, he also did well by Joe Milton. Not advocating keeping him as OC, but grant him credit for the young QB development.

 

[Ring 6]

I wonder how much control Mayo actually had over SVP.

I think none. I think he wanted none. He wanted Van Punt to run the offense and leave him out of it

 

[Ring 6]

IMO if Vrabel is the HC then he stays. If it's Johnson he is gone.

No way he is staying.

 

[PatsFan2]

No way he is staying.

IF AVP is kept that's going to be the fly in the ointment. He runs a Highschool Offense.