Does anyone think there is a chance Mayo is one and done?

[archstanton543]

I'll still put money that he's HC of the Pats next year.

 

[archstanton543]

Also that's a big "IF". Nothing to see here.

 

[turkeyneck]

Big "If" there, requires the Orchid Hombre to realize instead of fantasize.

 

[sb1]

Yeah good points - IF Kraft thinks he made a mistake...

Nothing to indicate he is thinking that way yet.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Failure at every level

 

[turkeyneck]

Failure at every level

The interviews were light on football? So things other than football were the focus of interviewing OCs? Why am I not surprised ...

Oh, and where does AVP stand on this? Is the plan to can him or is he ok with dropping back to QB coach?

Where are the DC interviews?

 

[TheRainMaker]

The dirt is starting to come out on how Jerod weaseled his way to HC. Not good for Jerod.

My fear is the Pats hang around or even worse win a few games and give Bob false hope to keep him.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Not seeing a win on the remaining schedule. Sans Buffalo resting starters in week 17. If they get blown out for most of those games, he should not be back.

 

[Love The Drake]

Not seeing a win on the remaining schedule. Sans Buffalo resting starters in week 17. If they get blown out for most of those games, he should not be back.

Now I need to hope for the sloppiest most unorganized football to bring in Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore,

 

[Foxypats]

Now I need to hope for the sloppiest most unorganized football to bring in Ben Johnson, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore,

Will those guys want to come here if the perception is that we are unorganized, Kraft can't stop meddling and we have no talent except maybe 4-5 players on the team ? I don't think we have enough right now to attract Ben Johnson and company, as great as Drake is looking he might not be enough for some up and coming guy getting his first shot at being HC. My hope is if we keep Mayo for the next season, those guys stay put also and will be available for the 2026 season where hopefully Mayo is gone !!

 

[Love The Drake]

Will those guys want to come here if the perception is that we are unorganized, Kraft can't stop meddling and we have no talent except maybe 4-5 players on the team ? I don't think we have enough right now to attract Ben Johnson and company, as great as Drake is looking he might not be enough for some up and coming guy getting his first shot at being HC. My hope is if we keep Mayo for the next season, those guys stay put also and will be available for the 2026 season where hopefully Mayo is gone !!

It’s better for an immediate release and to show you’re serious hire a firm to go get your next HC.

Moore, Brady, Kingsbury, Johnson are all offensive masterminds to match with Maye,
Gotta make it happen.

 

[Jackson 2]

Breer is Mayo’s number one water carrier & excuse maker. Mayo calls him on the way to the team bus after every game. Fortunately Bedard’s sources inside the team believe the Pats need to be competitive down the stretch for Mayo’s job to be secure.

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Your assessment of Breer's sworn loyalty to Mayo is a good one and Curran's fealty runs neck and neck with Breer's. Both are rooted in a common dislike of Belichick. Breer's antipathy comes from feeling that Bill was mean to him and Curran's.from a belief that Belichick treated Brady poorly. Curran' s adoration of Tom was described well to me by a friend who said that Curran's head was far enough up Brady's ass for his eyes to be Brady's nipples...

 

[TommyD4207]

I think Mayo sucks too.
I also think that if the Krafts start hiring new coaching staffs every year, we'll be the Jets or Panthers in short order. If they keep Mayo, and just blow out all his hires and put in actual, professional coaches in their place, then I'd be ok with that.

Mayo didn't hire Van Pelt, or anyone else on that offense or special teams, just for reference.

 

[Boogs]

I think Mayo sucks too.
I also think that if the Krafts start hiring new coaching staffs every year, we'll be the Jets or Panthers in short order. If they keep Mayo, and just blow out all his hires and put in actual, professional coaches in their place, then I'd be ok with that.

Mayo didn't hire Van Pelt, or anyone else on that offense or special teams, just for reference.

Getting rid of some of Mayo's hires might help. But I'm just not impressed with the rumors about Mayo's character and leadership. I think Mayo is just going to tend to have a team with locker room problems and chemistry issues.

And I don't know how you get rid of Mayo's guys, keep Mayo and not have more problems with Mayo.

 

[Toofy]

Mayo never had any of his guys... Everyone was a bill leftover. And mayo knows nobody... Big mistake from the krafts last year.

We have no choice but to hope Mayo can ascend. No good coaching candidate will want to come here. We can send our feelers to Johnson and see what he feels.

We cannot interview candidates without canning mayo and there is a risk that we get leftover candidates who might be worse than Mayo. At this point we need to focus on draft and hope we get some playmakers.

I doubt we overspend the cap next season as we might want to keep a heavy cap space for the next coach in 2026. So potentially rollover 40 million to 2026 and cut dugger, Stevenson while renegotiating onwenu contract.

Just get some additional consultants on defense and offense. Hire Saleh as assistant DC and keep Covington as the DC so that if the operation fails Covington is fall guy. Let Saleh handle play calling. I don't think Saleh will come here as DC as he knows it's a prove it year with very limited talent.

We just need to hope wolf hits a home run in 2026 draft. Else we again start the rebuild in 2026;with new coach and GM.

 

[Tunescribe]

Mayo never had any of his guys... Everyone was a bill leftover. And mayo knows nobody... Big mistake from the krafts last year.

We have no choice but to hope Mayo can ascend. No good coaching candidate will want to come here. We can send our feelers to Johnson and see what he feels.

We cannot interview candidates without canning mayo and there is a risk that we get leftover candidates who might be worse than Mayo. At this point we need to focus on draft and hope we get some playmakers.

I doubt we overspend the cap next season as we might want to keep a heavy cap space for the next coach in 2026. So potentially rollover 40 million to 2026 and cut dugger, Stevenson while renegotiating onwenu contract.

Just get some additional consultants on defense and offense. Hire Saleh as assistant DC and keep Covington as the DC so that if the operation fails Covington is fall guy. Let Saleh handle play calling. I don't think Saleh will come here as DC as he knows it's a prove it year with very limited talent.

We just need to hope wolf hits a home run in 2026 draft. Else we again start the rebuild in 2026;with new coach and GM.

Most of what you say argues for Mayo being jettisoned as soon as the season ends and Vrabel (or someone similar) being brought in right away. Vrabel likely has a seasoned staff lined up and waiting for wherever he lands.

Covington is "one of Mayo's guys," the problem being that Mayo has few league connections due to limited experience. IF Mayo stays, you are correct assuming few experienced assistants would be interested due to his potentially lame duck status.

IMO, and I've said this before, Mayo's ceiling as head coach is mediocrity. Roster improvements alone could get him there.

 

[sportnik]

Mayo never had any of his guys... Everyone was a bill leftover. And mayo knows nobody... Big mistake from the krafts last year.

We have no choice but to hope Mayo can ascend. No good coaching candidate will want to come here. We can send our feelers to Johnson and see what he feels.

We cannot interview candidates without canning mayo and there is a risk that we get leftover candidates who might be worse than Mayo. At this point we need to focus on draft and hope we get some playmakers.

I doubt we overspend the cap next season as we might want to keep a heavy cap space for the next coach in 2026. So potentially rollover 40 million to 2026 and cut dugger, Stevenson while renegotiating onwenu contract.

Just get some additional consultants on defense and offense. Hire Saleh as assistant DC and keep Covington as the DC so that if the operation fails Covington is fall guy. Let Saleh handle play calling. I don't think Saleh will come here as DC as he knows it's a prove it year with very limited talent.

We just need to hope wolf hits a home run in 2026 draft. Else we again start the rebuild in 2026;with new coach and GM.

Saleh isn’t coming here to work under an incompetent, lame duck Head Coach. No one worth hiring is coming to work under Mayo. If the Pats want to make additions to the coaching staff, they will be limited to guys that are out of the league, like Matt Patricia.

Basically, if Thunder doesn’t fire Mayo, the Pats are going to waste half of Maye’s rookie contract and will go into next season as the heavy favorites to pick first in 2026.

 

[PatsFan2]

Click bait I don't believe it.

 

[The Gr8est]

Most of what you say argues for Mayo being jettisoned as soon as the season ends and Vrabel (or someone similar) being brought in right away. Vrabel likely has a seasoned staff lined up and waiting for wherever he lands.

Covington is "one of Mayo's guys," the problem being that Mayo has few league connections due to limited experience. IF Mayo stays, you are correct assuming few experienced assistants would be interested due to his potentially lame duck status.

IMO, and I've said this before, Mayo's ceiling as head coach is mediocrity. Roster improvements alone could get him there.

Breer’s article mentioned that it was known back in 2019 that Mayo would be succeeding BB.

Anyone think that BB didn’t know that and it had a detrimental effect?

It was worrisome that Breer made the comparison between Jerry Jones’ and Bob Kraft’s personalities.

Kraft has a history of meddling with less than stellar results.

 

[Ross12]

The dirt is starting to come out on how Jerod weaseled his way to HC. Not good for Jerod.

My fear is the Pats hang around or even worse win a few games and give Bob false hope to keep him.

I have started hearing stuff about this recently. Something about Jonathan Kraft digging around into Mayo's behavior last year and how he undermined Bill... And that Jonathan is not on the Mayo Train