Mayo interview with Curran

[Force Zero Boomer]

While I think Mayo will improve next season, I doubt it'll be good enough for the team to become a true contender in the near future and I would prefer they dump him now and get a head coach and coordinators who are ready for the big time from day 1.

That said, it doesn't seem like ownership agrees. It seems very likely Mayo and Wolf are here next year, no matter what happens the rest of the way this year. Since that's the case, I have to hope there's some plan in place to make this coaching situation functional.

I think if they can figure out something to improve the defensive play calling/adjustments and inject a lot of free agent/draft talent at all levels of the D, that will go a long way. On O, if they get a real WR1 in free agency, a WR coach, and some better pieces on the line, they might be good enough to win some games. And if Mayo will stop saying stupid things and making questionable calls in the few choices that are actually up to him during a game, that might be good enough for playoffs next year. If that happens, won't we have to judge Mayo as a success?

But none of that is happening with Mayo or the FO. They won't deliver on any of that. They aren't smart enough. Their player evaluation is pathetic. Their coach is not a smart man.

 

[Clonamery]

"Coaching is about relationships. Business is about relationships."

If an owner said that, I could understand and appreciate the connection a businessman was trying to make.

It's harder (for this fan) to take comfort when a NFL HC is courting that as mantra.

 

[Clonamery]

I like how I'm living rent free in at least two people's heads here. I don't think about you or that other guy at all.

You need to get your own place.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

I like how I'm living rent free in at least two people's heads here. I don't think about you or that other guy at all.

Then why are you replying? Oh, I know why: you're delusional. The "rent free" thing doesn't bother me. You'll have to troll harder than that to do more than amuse me, but I doubt you have the ability.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

archie's "Disagrees" used to hit harder when he had that smug mutt as his avatar. Now it doesn't bother me as much

 

[Love The Drake]

"Coaching is about relationships. Business is about relationships."

If an owner said that, I could understand and appreciate the connection a businessman was trying to make.

It's harder (for this fan) to take comfort when a NFL HC is courting that as mantra.

Also a bottom 5 team and we are discussing books with the coach.
Only books I want to hear the coach talk about is the playbook.

 

[archstanton543]

Then why are you replying? Oh, I know why: you're delusional. The "rent free" thing doesn't bother me. You'll have to troll harder than that to do more than amuse me, but I doubt you have the ability.

I've been posting here for decades. If I were a troll, I'd have been kicked a long time ago.

I simply don't agree with a lot of pearl clutching, hysterical, impatient takes here. There's a button to express that. If you don't like it, take it up with @Ian.

 

[archstanton543]

archie's "Disagrees" used to hit harder when he had that smug mutt as his avatar. Now it doesn't bother me as much

Manning Face dog, actually.

 

[Triumph]

True, I suppose but they both are day to day jobs controlled by humans and all their errors, so not that much different. Are you saying that it is not possible to improve from one year to another because that was the point. By you pointing out the difference does imply that you think it is impossible to improve. ummmm what????

In the service you can be stripped of rank and pay for not following orders.

What indicators exist that predict Mayo improved in 2025?

 

[upstater1]

"Coaching is about relationships. Business is about relationships."

If an owner said that, I could understand and appreciate the connection a businessman was trying to make.

It's harder (for this fan) to take comfort when a NFL HC is courting that as mantra.

A good metaphor is what someone said to me this morning about teaching. It doesn't matter how much you know about teaching and how much you've mastered the content, if you don't care about the people you're trying to teach, none of that will get through.

This might apply to litttle kids, but I learned more from a complete misanthrope ornery cuss than I learned from anyone in school. He truly didn't care about us; in fact, he went out of his way to terrorize and insult us!

I wasn't motivated by those methods of his either.

He just knew his stuff. And presented it in a digestible way.

 

[upstater1]

I think it's some weird Boston stuff going on here because I can't picture it being more savage than this. I actually think we'd have gone easier on someone from the outside.

I don't know about that. I mean, Carroll was vilified, deservedly so, IMO.

 

[Triumph]

"Coaching is about relationships. Business is about relationships."

BB understands and practices this.

If an owner said that, I could understand and appreciate the connection a businessman was trying to make.

It's harder (for this fan) to take comfort when a NFL HC is courting that as mantra.

Especially when the HC wants to be your equal and pal instead of keeping it professional.

Its funny to watch recent videos of BOB and Gronk talk about BB with respect.

 

[turkeyneck]

A good metaphor is what someone said to me this morning about teaching. It doesn't matter how much you know about teaching and how much you've mastered the content, if you don't care about the people you're trying to teach, none of that will get through.

This might apply to litttle kids, but I learned more from a complete misanthrope ornery cuss than I learned from anyone in school. He truly didn't care about us; in fact, he went out of his way to terrorize and insult us!

I wasn't motivated by those methods of his either.

He just knew his stuff. And presented it in a digestible way.

Counter example: A fellow I knew who was contact point for new people coming into a teaching band. He got all the rank beginners started. He was great with the newbs, young and old, great with the kids' parents, imparted lots of enthusiasm. However, he was not a good musician but didn't know it. All the beginners passing thru his hands had horrible fundamental skills. They all needed to start over basically from scratch if they wanted to be any good. They sounded a lot like the current Pats look.

So, sure, relating is important and certainly makes things pleasant. But quality demands knowledge.

 

[Real fan 02]

Yeah and how did that work-out for them?

Like a hooker on the strip not good!

 

[Real fan 02]

Reminder that the question to which I initially responded was: Who should go away first, Mayo or Curran (not Mayo or Wolf).

I whole-heartedly agree that if I could fire either MayoNays or the children Upstairs, then I would fire the kids first... But I would still INSIST that I be allowed to also fire the former WR from Samford, and the two ****ing Unqualified ****ing Clowns "coaching" our WRs to do absolutely ****-All.

Cap I find it funny BB doesn't say how sorry he feels for Brian, Hightower, pelligrino, covington as he brought them all to Foxboro too.

 

[TomPatriot]

National media observers just giggle at the crap we have here.

I don’t think so. The sports talk shows in New York are as bad or worse.

 

[mike_usagisan]

But none of that is happening with Mayo or the FO. They won't deliver on any of that. They aren't smart enough. Their player evaluation is pathetic. Their coach is not a smart man.

Right, but as a fan and knowing we’re stuck with them, I want to find the way to some kind of success. I don’t think the offense is as far away as some people do. I think there’s a more realistic chance that Covington gets fired than Mayo, or they hire someone as an “advisor” who essentially is the defensive coordinator. If we start winning some of these one-score games, the prognosis on the team starts looking different.

 

[signbabybrady]

I don't know about that. I mean, Carroll was vilified, deservedly so, IMO.

I suppose that's true this town can just be brutal sometimes.

Still maybe it occurred a little quicker because we already knew Mayo well. Or maybe this just is a level of suck we haven't seen in a real long time.

 

[dliverey44]

Since when did NFL HC become OJT?

Your are implying that once you become a HC then that is the limit of your learning. Every job is OJT, maybe not a structured OJT but OJT non the less.

It is blowing my mind that several people are confused that its possible to learn while doing a job.

 

[Tunescribe]

My reason is that I don't value coaching as much as most fans. I've come to believe that talent evaluation is far more important than coaching techniques. Those have been around for a century with a few tweaks that get figured out in time.

I could give countless examples why you're wrong but there's no use arguing with a fundamentally flawed perspective. If this was the NBA, perhaps. Enjoy the futility while Mayo gets his on-the-job training.