DRAFT 2025 Patriots Draft Prospects

[KCSVEN]

3-15 and a 2yd td vs Hunter. Basically got owned last year by him too. These games are important matchups. Some of these guys can mop the floor with soon to be janitors and plumbers but it’s a good look when they can also do it against elite talent.

Kelvin Banks looked terrible vs Georgia and then rose back up the ranks to be the number 1 prospect again after stringing off some good performances. Now he may not play vs Georgia in sec championship? Coincidence? Hmmm…either he’s injured or he’s protecting his draft stock.

It's a weak draft. You don't overthink this draft, take Hunter if you can. After that you have some choices between some potential good players but odds of getting someone great are lower than normal for top 5 picks, outside of Hunter.

None of the QB's look like good NFL QB's though Cam Ward at least has spurts and Allar is raw with potential, Sanders, not a fan.

Despite the QB's being MEH still a good chance 2 still get drafted by Raiders and Giants so if we lose out the last 4 and Jags win one we should get Hunter, and be very, very happy.

I would only trade down in this draft if a 2026 first comes with it, that draft is much, much better. I probably still take Hunter over the trade but depends on where I have to drop to in 2025.
2025 draft has maybe 12 players that are legitimate first rounders, 2026 has potentially over 30.

 

[Huckleberry1]

3-15 and a 2yd td vs Hunter. Basically got owned last year by him too. These games are important matchups. Some of these guys can mop the floor with soon to be janitors and plumbers but it’s a good look when they can also do it against elite talent.

Kelvin Banks looked terrible vs Georgia and then rose back up the ranks to be the number 1 prospect again after stringing off some good performances. Now he may not play vs Georgia in sec championship? Coincidence? Hmmm…either he’s injured or he’s protecting his draft stock.

As a fan it’s so hard to figure out which college players can translate their game to the pro’s and which can’t. But looking at how they play against the best college players in their 1-1 match ups is as good an indicator as there is, the underwear Olympia aren’t.

 

[JohnJH]

Unfortunately it looks like the draft, or a trade, is the only recourse as the free agent outlook sucks. That said I don’t believe in paying top money to players out of desperation. You don’t create a true contender by paying lesser players top dollar. Save the big money for all pro caliber players.

That's one of the reasons that didn't want Ridley. He was too old to be a part of this team for the next 4+ years, let alone what they were willing to pay a player of his age (and there will be better players through the draft and possibly FA next year and/or the year after than him).

 

[dliverey44]

To be fair about this, arm length issues for Campbell and Milum are not confirmed but rumored. Anything below the 33” level and I’d agree that is likely a deal breaker for them to be a very good or elite LT1 in the NFL. However, IMHO there are not more than 10 LTs in the league currently that could be considered elite or very good. That is why, year in, year out, there always seem to be 4 - 6 OTs taken in the first round, and why you see so many bust. For that reason, regarding Campbell and Milum, my prediction is that if either or both have confirmed arm length of between 33” and 34,” some team or teams will gamble on them and if either or both have arms longer than 34” they’re going top 15. Based on who they’ve brought in at OT, I don’t believe Wolf will take either unless he sees a 34”+ number.

With that said, right now I’m in the “throw money at the best available veteran LT and draft who they hope becomes the future LT1 with the high second round pick” camp, and free up the high first rounder for the guy at any position other than QB that can make a strong impact in 2025.

I’d be OK with McMillen, Banks (assuming his arms meet their length standard), Graham, Jeanty, or even Starks, Egbuka, Pierce, Walker, or Scourton. Each is flawed but that’s my current view of who’d possibly be worth a top 10 or even top 5 pick by the Pats. Even better, if Campbell, Banks, and Milum come up short on Wolf’s arm length criterion, a trade down that allows them to make two Day 1 picks or 4 Day 2 picks (they have 3 right now) plus something else of nice value (a player at a need position such as a Wills or Mayer, or a 2026 first or second).

There is a scout for the Hula Bowl on youtube that breaks down prospects and he said he has some measureable info and the data he has says that Campbells arms are 32.5-32.75 (I can't remember which he said).

 

[Huckleberry1]

That's one of the reasons that didn't want Ridley. He was too old to be a part of this team for the next 4+ years, let alone what they were willing to pay a player of his age (and there will be better players through the draft and possibly FA next year and/or the year after than him).

I’m fine with them spending for free agents, but this years WR class in free agency sucks: Tee Higgins will be the highest rated WR in the class, but will get overpaid significantly. If you are going to pay a guy 30 million a year then you want it to be an all pro caliber of player, e.g. CerDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, and Higgins isn’t in that category. You can only pay a few guys 25-30 + million, so you have to be careful who you give it to.

 

[TomPatriot]

There is a scout for the Hula Bowl on youtube that breaks down prospects and he said he has some measureable info and the data he has says that Campbells arms are 32.5-32.75 (I can't remember which he said).

We’re doing arm length for OL again? Why?

 

[gobesmug]

It's mind boggling to me that we're still talking about the Harry pick from 2019, and 5 WRs taken in that draft before Metcalf are totally out of the NFL. AJ Brown isn't even with his original team anymore.

It was a bad pick from long ago, but we're still harping on it. If that pick was AJ Brown, chances are we wouldn't have resinged him. Who knows if we'd be bad enough to pick Drake Maye.

But here's the crazy thing: we pick Polk over Ladd McConkey this year, and McConkey looks like Cooper Kupp out there!

We made a big WR mistake THIS YEAR yet we're looking backward at 6 years ago!

NOW READ THIS:

From ESPN​

First-time Pro Bowl nominee: Linebacker Mack Wilson Sr.

The offseason free agent signing has played as well as the Cardinals had hoped at inside and outside linebacker. He has three sacks to complement 62 tackles. He also has four passes defended and an interception. He has been doing it all for Arizona's defense. -- Josh Weinfuss

It's not mind boggling. Had Belichick drafted AJ Brown it's entirely possible he would have been the difference maker that season leading the Pats to their 7th superbowl.

Maybe having a stud young WR to throw to, Brady stays a Pat and wins 8 or 9 superbowls with the Pats before retiring.

Is that scenario realistic? No, but you can't say 100% that it wouldn't have happened either. AJ Brown will always be the what could have been, just like if Asante had just held onto the game winning superbowl Int.

 

[Sciz]

We’re doing arm length for OL again? Why?

Because there’s no way it’s just a coincidence that the 5 current starters are all 87th percentile or better in arm length at their respective positions

 

[gobesmug]

I really hope the team ignores the desperation the fans demonstrate. You build a long term contender by making good decisions, not by acts of desperation driven by fan panic. They clearly need to build up the receiving corps, but that doesn’t make it wise to throw money at players who don’t deserve it. I was open to the idea of going after Higgins if he is worth it, but given how frequently he’s injured, and the numbers Sciz posted earlier, indicate that he won’t be worth the money someone will give him. I understand the desire, but wasting money means you end up losing guys like Gonzalez down the road.

The Pats have the cap to overpay for a player at a position of great need. If they can land either a quality starting LT or WR in FA, they need to do it.

You can't go into the draft desperate at a position otherwise you end up passing a player like Cooper Dejean for a joke like Polk.

 

[dliverey44]

That's young: the Bronco's FA Left Tackle Garett Bolles is going to be 33 by FA. I wouldn't mind him for a couple of years until the young guy is ready.

I cannot see a way the Bolles wouldn't want to sign and retire in Denver.

 

[dliverey44]

So, another Wolf blunder for not doing so? I'm guessing yes.

This is probably my biggest complaint about Wolf aside from not over signing in on the OL in FA. Minnesota gave up, I think a conditional 4th in 2026.

 

[dliverey44]

Oh? So you know, for certain, that Cam Robinson was made available to the Pats and that Wolf turned them down? Could you show us where you got that info?

I'm no fan of Wolf, but making assumptions that he could have made a particular deal just because another team was able to is the epitome of dumb. No one outside of Jax knows whether or not Robinson was even on the block when the Vikings went calling to Jax after Darrisaw was injured.

Given that Pats media made it known everyone they were in on but there were no reports about them in on Cam, I feel like it is safe to assume, but you're right we don't know.

 

[dliverey44]

Settle down.
He'll get someone better than "Let's miss on Ladd and draft this fkn loser Polk."
I wanna crush him everyday for that, and that was BEFORE Ladd made it official.
Anyone with a brain knew this...Ohh was a slot, we had enough " GFY You fkn idiot.

I wasn't in on Ladd and was in favor as Polk, but I wanted them to draft Cooper Dejean

 

[JohnJH]

I’m fine with them spending for free agents, but this years WR class in free agency sucks: Tee Higgins will be the highest rated WR in the class, but will get overpaid significantly. If you are going to pay a guy 30 million a year then you want it to be an all pro caliber of player, e.g. CerDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, and Higgins isn’t in that category. You can only pay a few guys 25-30 + million, so you have to be careful who you give it to.

Yep. I'd like them to come away with either a true #1 worth giving the big bucks to, but still still young enough stud that'll be around for awhile and/or a solid #2 to go with the aforementioned. In addition to a solid OL, we need to also give Maye a couple of WR's that Defenses have to account for on every play. We totally lucked-put with Maye. He looks like he's going to be a stud. We need to give him the offense next year (while doing what we can to improve the D as much as possible to at least improve a bit (including coaching). And then continue to build on that after the 2025 season with a terrifying D to back up the Offense.

 

[dliverey44]

3-15 and a 2yd td vs Hunter. Basically got owned last year by him too. These games are important matchups. Some of these guys can mop the floor with soon to be janitors and plumbers but it’s a good look when they can also do it against elite talent.

Kelvin Banks looked terrible vs Georgia and then rose back up the ranks to be the number 1 prospect again after stringing off some good performances. Now he may not play vs Georgia in sec championship? Coincidence? Hmmm…either he’s injured or he’s protecting his draft stock.

I have gone back and watched the game and Hunter played exceptional football and did pretty much shut him, but there was a slant early in the game that if were a better throw would have been a catch and there is a whip route in the EZ that hunter fell off of to break up a pass in the endzone. The QB didn't throw it on the whip because it was from the far hash and if he did not put it exactly in the right spot could have been a pick six, conversely if he did put it in the right spot its a TD.

I think it did more for how amazing Hunter is rather than ****ty Tet is. I know a lot of people call him TMac, but Tracy McGrady is the only TMac I know.

 

[TomPatriot]

Because there’s no way it’s just a coincidence that the 5 current starters are all 87th percentile or better in arm length at their respective positions

I’m assuming you mean the current Patriots starting OL and you’re using arm length to anticipate who they’ll pick? Because if you’re not . . . maybe that’s not the best indicator of success?

 

[Clonamery]

I’m assuming you mean the current Patriots starting OL and you’re using arm length to anticipate who they’ll pick? Because if you’re not . . . maybe that’s not the best indicator of success?

Sciz is looking at Scott Peter's system and making the connection.

 

[KCSVEN]

I’m fine with them spending for free agents, but this years WR class in free agency sucks: Tee Higgins will be the highest rated WR in the class, but will get overpaid significantly. If you are going to pay a guy 30 million a year then you want it to be an all pro caliber of player, e.g. CerDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, and Higgins isn’t in that category. You can only pay a few guys 25-30 + million, so you have to be careful who you give it to.

The money to Higgins doesn't matter, it can be structured as a 3-4 year deal, which coincides with most of Maye's rookie deal. If you used 30 million in cap space you'd still have the 4th most cap space but would have 44 players signed while the 3 others would be 36,35 and 30 so you can get Higgins and still basically have the most cap space in the NFL. Of course, it would not be 30 million in cap space for 2025, Aiyuk was 26.8 million per year and cap space is only 11 million in 2025.

Higgins is very good receiver, he'd be the best receiver on the team, and you give up nothing but cap space. He's also THE BEST option to add to the wr's in free agency.

In that contract time frame they have to sign Gonzalez and then at the end of that time Maye.
Nobody else on the roster is getting that and its rare a free agent comes out the can get that type of money. If not Higgins, then who? Just save the cap money for nothing?

He's not Chase or Jefferson but they don't come available very often and if you somehow draft one then Higgins contract will be up when you have to sign that person.
He'd pare great with Travis Hunter who could play some #2 CB and #2 receiver as he develops into a #1 in whichever position he thrives in most.

I also doubt Higgins gets 30 million.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The Pats have the cap to overpay for a player at a position of great need. If they can land either a quality starting LT or WR in FA, they need to do it.

You can't go into the draft desperate at a position otherwise you end up passing a player like Cooper Dejean for a joke like Polk.

Not one person in this forum wanted Cooper DeJean with their second pick, it was OL or WR, and both had been cleaned out of the top prospects in the first round. Personally I wanted Jackson Powers-Johnson

As for overpaying, I can see a case being made if the team is on the cusp of contending and need to get over the top at a position to get there, but that’s not the case for the Patriots, who are still at least two years away from seriously contending. Higgins trajectory as a player is going downhill at this point, so I wouldn’t give him #1 money. Their better bet is to keep drafting WR’s, and trade for a WR if they are still in need of one, and are in the race for a playoff position.

If they want to make a deal the smarter thing to do is give San Francisco a 4th for Deebo Samuel, who would immediately upgrade WR, but whose deal would end two years from now, freeing up that 20-25 million for them to use when they are a much better team.

 

[Real fan 02]

Honestly, I'm not sure there's any position other than QB I'd be upset drafting with our top pick. I just want us to draft someone who's awesome. The only players on our roster that I actually expect to actually give a damn about whether they're onthe roster or not in 3 years are:

QB Drake Maye
CB Christian Gonzalez
DT Christian Barmore
EDGE Keoin White

Guys like Douglas, Onwenu, Stevenson, Dugger, Peppers (if he's back), Marcus Jones, Boutte, Mapu, some of the younger OL are ok to have but don't seem anything special to me. I wouldn't be out on drafting someone who pushes them off the roster or reduces their role if the new guy is an actually elite player. Guys like Henry, Bourne, Wise, Andrews, Bentley, Tavai, Jon Jones are all likely off the team in 3 years or shells of themselves.

I just don't think one of the worst teams in the NFL without very many "core pieces" should be pigeon holing themselves into one specific positions or even a few of them. You can talk positional needs but even some of the best teams in the NFL have positional weaknesses. Everyone does. People obsess over the OL and I agree it's the biggest area of need because of what it can do for the rest of the offense, but it's not like we haven't seen teams make the super bowl before while still feeling they need help on the OL (Chiefs in 2020, Bengals a few years ago, etc.). What's really holding us back from being a contender isn't any one position group it's the fact that we don't have ANY truly elite players. Even of the core pieces I listed above, Maye is a developing rookie and Gonzalez/White show promise but aren't elite players right now. Maybe you could argue Barmore was elite last year (or could argue he was a tier below) and he's recovering from a serious health scare anyway.

It'd be a beautiful, beautiful thing if they draft a LT and he ends up a 8 time pro bowler. But what if they draft a LT and he's a good, not great player like Nate Solder was when we drafted him mid 1st? That's not some crazy low projection even for a LT we draf at #5, #6 or whatever pick we land at. It'd for sure be a nice and valuable improvement to lock that position down with competence and solid starter level play, but in the grand scheme of things that wouldn't do as much for us as a Will Anderson caliber edge player if you think someone on the board at another spot has that kind of potential. Even though guard is way less important than LT I'd take a Quentin Nelson type over a Nate Solder type. I'd take a Richard Seymour caliber DL. And on and on with whatever position you want to fill in with.

To ever be a contender again we're going to need to plug multiple positional weaknesses and add elite players across the roster. Elite players are harder to land so that has to be the priority, regardless of positions IMO.

Good post. It's really simple for us to become a contender again. TALENT! We all know the OL is pivotal to protect Drake. The trenches are going to be pivotal this offseason. Bulk up the OL and DL that is where is all starts. Godchaux, wise are older players that probably won't be here next season. We need to draft DL,DTs that can penatrate and move the LOS. we need OL that can run/pass block and open up holes in the running game. At WR I've always felt aside from the draft hunter or McMillan to get that "guy" it's going be a trade outside of signing Higgins. We could say go after Olave in NO still on his rookie deal.