Drake Maye is the Most Valuable Player in the NFL

[NormZauchin]

? Huh?

I said Joe Burrow gets jittery and chokes a lot at the end of tight games. It's true.

Where did I say Drake Maye is Brady?

Nowhere.

Why do people do this?

It's a characteristic of all fandom websites, people responding to posts by refuting arguments that were never made.

 

[Triumph]

What if Maye struggles in year 2?

 

[upstater1]

Bill would have traded back and taken McCarthy I think. He gushed about him on draft night.

But Bill doesn't trade back in the top half of the draft. His history shows that.

Anyway, people are making way too much of this stuff. Bill was highly skeptical about Caleb Williams. He said that Daniels was the one he really liked and that he was primed for success, sees the field well, makes the right throws. He said Maye has extraordinary tools but is really green and would need to develop a lot, so you dont really know what you have.

These are not crazy takes.

 

[ViperGTS]

 

[varjao]

Bill would have traded back and taken McCarthy I think. He gushed about him on draft night.

Yes, that's why he's unemployed, because he couldnt put up a decent draft to save his life.

 

[sb1]

Mac Jones in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 71% comp,1472 yards 7/6 TD/int, 89.6 rating, 13 sacks, 3 fumbles 1 lost

Maye in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 67% comp, 1214 yards, 9/6 TD/int, 88.9 rating, 17 sacks, 4 fumbles 3 lost

Just sayin.

Other than the strip sacks and hero ball I really like what I’m seeing from Maye but the talk that the Pats definitely found their guy might be a bit premature? Let’s see what happens when the league has studied him a bit more.

Case in point see above.

 

[XLIX]

One of these days my wife will walk in on me reading a KCSVEN post about Maye and I will have some serious splainin to do.

"No, baby!! Baby, no!! I was just watching porn and talking to my girlfriend!! I swear!!"

 

[Steve102]

Yes, that's why he's unemployed, because he couldnt put up a decent draft to save his life.

Did you not watch any of the games between 2001 and 2018? That's a dumb take clouded by the last couple years of his regime.

 

[mgcolby]

What if Maye struggles in year 2?

Things we don't talk about at fight club...

But honestly the mental make up that we have seen so far is a complete 180 from Mac to Maye.

 

[Jim Beankie]

Williams holds the ball too long, his line is average historically for Pass block win rate. Last game the new OC went to short passes and 1 read and run looks to alleviate that, worked pretty well. Maye's line is so bad they had to extend the graph for him
Herbert rookie year had 100 catches from Keenan Allen, had Mike Williams, Austin Ekeler and Hunter Henry all in their prime.
Curious what Henry would say about Maye as a rookie vs Herbert? Bet he'd say they were similar.

Thanks for the graph. At the end of the day, though, Caleb and Maye both have had 2.4sec of Pocket time (btw snap and either throwing the ball or the pocket collapsing) with Caleb's having more pressures and a significantly higher sack rate. Last games for both: Caleb 15.4% pressure rate; Maye: 10.9%.

Unfortunately, we've had way too many instances for the Pats of PFF's providing high or low grades that don't seem to come close to perception. The OL seemingly has been playing better of late, and that was apparent even in Jacoby's stint where it looked like he had time to breathe. Apparently, PFF thinks not. I'm not sure how they calculate Team Pass Block Rate - is it all the separate parts put together? If so, could the whole be better than the sum of its parts?

 

[Jim Beankie]

There really is no good explanation for the game ending pass last weekend, except that maybe he felt pressure to his right side and rushed it (that DE ended up falling down so there wasn't any threat). If Maye actually meant to throw it there because he thought Pop was going more vertical, that route wasn't open, the safety who intercepted it was right in that spot. So I'd like to understand what Maye was seeing/doing on that play.

That aside, Drake's composure, ability to process, throw to all areas, throw on the run, run it himself, and be a leader look pretty special to say the least. He's already a stud as McVey said after the game, and will certainly become better within the next year. But when you watch a Detroit, you realize how weak we are at all other offensive positions: WR, OL, RB, even TE. I don't think any of our 10 other starters would start for them. For that reason it will take Maye at least 2-3 years to reach his potential.

There was this random stat I saw Bad Throw % for the last game. Maye had 2.6% - or exactly 1 attempt. I like the word you used - composure. Sure he'll make some dumb throws (as we've seen TB12 do countless times), but it's not gonna be from Hershey squirts (given what I'm seen so far).

 

[Jim Beankie]

Mac Jones in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 71% comp,1472 yards 7/6 TD/int, 89.6 rating, 13 sacks, 3 fumbles 1 lost

Maye in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 67% comp, 1214 yards, 9/6 TD/int, 88.9 rating, 17 sacks, 4 fumbles 3 lost

Just sayin.

Other than the strip sacks and hero ball I really like what I’m seeing from Maye but the talk that the Pats definitely found their guy might be a bit premature? Let’s see what happens when the league has studied him a bit more.

Case in point see above.

Thx. Gonna be curious to see what happens as there's more and more tape on him.

 

[PatsFan2]

Mac Jones in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 71% comp,1472 yards 7/6 TD/int, 89.6 rating, 13 sacks, 3 fumbles 1 lost

Maye in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 67% comp, 1214 yards, 9/6 TD/int, 88.9 rating, 17 sacks, 4 fumbles 3 lost

Just sayin.

Other than the strip sacks and hero ball I really like what I’m seeing from Maye but the talk that the Pats definitely found their guy might be a bit premature? Let’s see what happens when the league has studied him a bit more.

Case in point see above.

The thing both Maye and Mac Jones have in common is the #10. Mac Jones played behind a Superior OL compared to Maye. Also Jones was absolutely $h!t scared of the Blitz: Maye is the Opposite. And this wait until the Defense gets tape on him...same was said of Mahomes - Allen - Burrow and Herbert. Like them Maye can make all the Throws: the world knows Mac Jones couldn't throw outside the numbers. Again regarding wait until the Defense gets tape on him: wait until they get him a couple of Better Receivers.

 

[PatsFan2]

There really is no good explanation for the game ending pass last weekend, except that maybe he felt pressure to his right side and rushed it (that DE ended up falling down so there wasn't any threat). If Maye actually meant to throw it there because he thought Pop was going more vertical, that route wasn't open, the safety who intercepted it was right in that spot. So I'd like to understand what Maye was seeing/doing on that play.

That aside, Drake's composure, ability to process, throw to all areas, throw on the run, run it himself, and be a leader look pretty special to say the least. He's already a stud as McVey said after the game, and will certainly become better within the next year. But when you watch a Detroit, you realize how weak we are at all other offensive positions: WR, OL, RB, even TE. I don't think any of our 10 other starters would start for them. For that reason it will take Maye at least 2-3 years to reach his potential.

 

[Dec54]

Quiz:

1. How much would the Jets have to give the Patriots to take Aaron Rodgers off their hands in excchange for Drake Maye?

2. If Drake Maye were to be traded to the Jets for Aaron Rodgers and a whole lot more, would he ever make the playoffs?

3. Would you trade Drake Maye to the Dallas Cowboys for Dak Prescott with his current contract and the Cowboys #1 pick in 2025?

1. Fountain of Youth
2. Be lost in purgatory
3. No

 

[Toofy]

I don't think Mac Jones had an offensive line as offensive as this one and a defense as bad as this one. Mac has Jacoby and Henry and non injured Bourne for majority of his time. Maye performing despite all these handicaps is what's impressive.

 

[Clonamery]

I don't think Mac Jones had an offensive line as offensive as this one and a defense as bad as this one. Mac has Jacoby and Henry and non injured Bourne for majority of his time. Maye performing despite all these handicaps is what's impressive.

No. Actually it's his arm strength and athleticism that separates him from the QB's AB (After Brady). He has plenty of work to do on decision-making, accuracy and footwork (yes, is better over the last 3-4 weeks or so).

 

[sb1]

The thing both Maye and Mac Jones have in common is the #10. Mac Jones played behind a Superior OL compared to Maye. Also Jones was absolutely $h!t scared of the Blitz: Maye is the Opposite. And this wait until the Defense gets tape on him...same was said of Mahomes - Allen - Burrow and Herbert. Like them Maye can make all the Throws: the world knows Mac Jones couldn't throw outside the numbers. Again regarding wait until the Defense gets tape on him: wait until they get him a couple of Better Receivers.

Sure but again a lot of us were ready to crown Jones after 6 games with numbers very close to what Maye has now and then he faceplanted. Let’s pump the brakes a bit before putting him in MVP threads…

 

[PatsFan2]

Sure but again a lot of us were ready to crown Jones after 6 games with numbers very close to what Maye has now and then he faceplanted. Let’s pump the brakes a bit before putting him in MVP threads…

I was never impressed with him: I had Brady withdrawal symptoms at that time. I watch a little and watched Jones consistently choke down the stretch. That started the downward spiral of his career.

 

[KCSVEN]

Mac Jones in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 71% comp,1472 yards 7/6 TD/int, 89.6 rating, 13 sacks, 3 fumbles 1 lost

Maye in his first 6 starts: 2-4, 67% comp, 1214 yards, 9/6 TD/int, 88.9 rating, 17 sacks, 4 fumbles 3 lost

Just sayin.

Other than the strip sacks and hero ball I really like what I’m seeing from Maye but the talk that the Pats definitely found their guy might be a bit premature? Let’s see what happens when the league has studied him a bit more.

Case in point see above.

Stats are pretty meaningless without context.
IMO It is not premature at all, a prospect of this caliber has rarely happened and the few times it has they've been stars.

Mac Jones had no arm strength, Mac Jones could not process, Mac Jones had no running ability, Mac Jones never took a crap team and played out of this world in college, Mac Jones was an old rookie. Mac Jones had a 10% chance of success in the NFL, Maye had a 95% chance of success.

Mac Jones was a bad prospect and was probably a 4th round pick at best, Drake Maye is a generational prospect.

Put Mac Jones on THIS TEAM his stats are closer to Jacoby Brissett.