Last 6 games. What can be salvaged for 2025 ?

[Toofy]

This season is toast and most probably we will lose all remaining matches.

How can we maximize the remainder of rudderless season. In my mind, I would want to know

A. Who amongst baker or Polk is worth investing . For that we need to play baker more even if it's to the detriment of team winning in near term.
B. Is Wallace good enough to be RT of future
C. Who is going to replace Jonathan Jones as CB2. If Alex Austin can show the growth , give him all the games and move back Jones as free safety.
D. How can we devise better chemistry between Maye and 3 top receivers ( Boutte, Bourne, Pop). How do we build on anticipated throws . It might be difficult, but better to try it out now than next season
E. How good is Rham really. Can we build our offense around him or is he a true JAG whom we overestimated?


Let's discuss our thoughts on what we feel the team should try out in next 6 games. Records or winning should not matter now. It should be more about experimentation and validating certain hypothesis which will serve as input points for next season.

 

[TommyD4207]

This season is toast and most probably we will lose all remaining matches.

How can we maximize the remainder of rudderless season. In my mind, I would want to know

A. Who amongst baker or Polk is worth investing . For that we need to play baker more even if it's to the detriment of team winning in near term.
B. Is Wallace good enough to be RT of future
C. Who is going to replace Jonathan Jones as CB2. If Alex Austin can show the growth , give him all the games and move back Jones as free safety.
D. How can we devise better chemistry between Maye and 3 top receivers ( Boutte, Bourne, Pop). How do we build on anticipated throws . It might be difficult, but better to try it out now than next season
E. How good is Rham really. Can we build our offense around him or is he a true JAG whom we overestimated?

A: Neither
B: No
C: They need to sign/draft someone
D: Reps
E: He's done a magnificent job behind what is by far the worst offensive line in professional football.

 

[archstanton543]

This season is toast and most probably we will lose all remaining matches.

How can we maximize the remainder of rudderless season. In my mind, I would want to know

A. Who amongst baker or Polk is worth investing . For that we need to play baker more even if it's to the detriment of team winning in near term.
B. Is Wallace good enough to be RT of future
C. Who is going to replace Jonathan Jones as CB2. If Alex Austin can show the growth , give him all the games and move back Jones as free safety.
D. How can we devise better chemistry between Maye and 3 top receivers ( Boutte, Bourne, Pop). How do we build on anticipated throws . It might be difficult, but better to try it out now than next season
E. How good is Rham really. Can we build our offense around him or is he a true JAG whom we overestimated?

A. Both
B. Probably a depth guy
C. Dunno. Draft pick probably.
D. Another off-season with a full workout and training program. Mini-camp. Voluntary team practices. (Especially now they don't have to pretend that Cryin' Jacoby is going to be the starter) etc
E. It's hard to get anything going in the run game when your O-line can't open up holes and you announce to the world that you're a run-first team.

 

[signbabybrady]

At least 2 wins would be nice.

 

[borg]

What can be salvaged for 2025.........​

Top 3 pick in April

 

[PatsFan2]

Get Javon Baker and Jaheim Bell in the mix, see if they can register a regular season Offensive stat. We need something to build on.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Seeing progress with EVERYONE is the main thing. Anyone regresses, they get put on a list for watching next year. Not to sound dictator like but a winning record would be nice. Cleaning up fundamentals, again for everyone. False start? Suicides on the hill. Then the next important thing is to not get anyone blown/injured which is probably harder than my previous want…

 

[PatsFan2]

This season is toast and most probably we will lose all remaining matches.

How can we maximize the remainder of rudderless season. In my mind, I would want to know

A. Who amongst baker or Polk is worth investing . For that we need to play baker more even if it's to the detriment of team winning in near term.
B. Is Wallace good enough to be RT of future
C. Who is going to replace Jonathan Jones as CB2. If Alex Austin can show the growth , give him all the games and move back Jones as free safety.
D. How can we devise better chemistry between Maye and 3 top receivers ( Boutte, Bourne, Pop). How do we build on anticipated throws . It might be difficult, but better to try it out now than next season
E. How good is Rham really. Can we build our offense around him or is he a true JAG whom we overestimated?


Let's discuss our thoughts on what we feel the team should try out in next 6 games. Records or winning should not matter now. It should be more about experimentation and validating certain hypothesis which will serve as input points for next season.

We are playing Teams that are in the mix for the Playoffs. I thought we had a shot against the Colts but Anthony Richardson just had a nice game. They have Three and a half really Good WR's an Excellent RB and Running QB...kiss of death for Patriots Defense.

 

[turkeyneck]

I've been saying this for years now (too many) but clean up the football. Stop playing stupid. Get the most out of the limited talent you have by not constantly sabotaging yourself with moronic penalties and poor execution.

 

[PatsFan2]

Seeing progress with EVERYONE is the main thing. Anyone regresses, they get put on a list for watching next year. Not to sound dictator like but a winning record would be nice. Cleaning up fundamentals, again for everyone. False start? Suicides on the hill. Then the next important thing is to not get anyone blown/injured which is probably harder than my previous want…

This is obvious but we are not a well Coached Team and it shows with those stupid back breaking penalties. We are playing Teams who are Leagues ahead of us in the Coaching department and we ain't Out Coaching them. It starts on Sunday Mike McDaniel will mop the floor up with two times Mayo. Unless Maye plays lights out I mean Throws for 250 and Run for 100 and we still might lose, we are too devoid of talent and can't overcome our mistakes. We should be in the Top 3 again at seasons end not Maye's fault.

 

[archstanton543]

This is obvious but we are not a well Coached Team and it shows with those stupid back breaking penalties. We are playing Teams who are Leagues ahead of us in the Coaching department and we ain't Out Coaching them. It starts on Sunday McDaniels will mop the floor up with two times Mayo. Unless Maye plays lights out I mean Throws for 250 and Run for 100 and we still might lose, we are too devoid of talent and can't overcome our mistakes. We should be in the Top 3 again at seasons end not Maye's fault.

McDaniel

 

[TheRainMaker]

A. They will be fighting for backup positions in the off-season. If you can't get targets today, that's a very bad sign.
B. No.
C. Most likely a FA.
D. More practice time together.
E. This is why you don't throw money at a player when not only the OL is atrocious, but who wasn't dynamic to begin with. You have to be a very good player to throw that kind of money to and Rham ain't it. If Rham were to walk away today would it make the team that much worse? No.

 

[PWRxWLF]

A. Both
B. Probably a depth guy
C. Dunno. Draft pick probably.
D. Another off-season with a full workout and training program. Mini-camp. Voluntary team practices. (Especially now they don't have to pretend that Cryin' Jacoby is going to be the starter) etc
E. It's hard to get anything going in the run game when your O-line can't open up holes and you announce to the world that you're a run-first team.

Interesting that you gave up on Wallace being a starter already but not Polk and Baker? Is that just hope speaking or is there another reason?

 

[archstanton543]

Interesting that you gave up on Wallace being a starter already but not Polk and Baker? Is that just hope speaking or is there another reason?

Neither Polk nor Baker will be a #1 WR. Wallace won't be a starting RT but a rotational depth guy. It sounds like I've given them about the same chances.

 

[Ring 6]

I’d like to see them fix some piece of the team and not have it break again in a week or 2.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Continued improvement offensively. They and avp have steadily gotten better since Drake came in outside of the titans game where they stupidly had layden robinson in the first half against a strong interior- 3 points that half and 14 in half 2. We should have put up over 30 on a good defense this sunday if not for a couple timely penalties on the OL. I can live with their deficiencies performance wise since alot of them are in bigger roles than they should be but at least clean it up! For the first time since 2018 i have some confidence our offense can finish strong.

Not nearly as optimistic on the other side of the ball, and they will be facing very tough competition. Lets see what we look like though if barmore becomes himself at some point this year. Covington also needs to improve in games, that was evident sunday. even if these go our way though we still need an impact edge, DL depth, and an outside cb at the least which are not coming this year. At least the run defense hasn’t gotten gashed in a few weeks, but we still can’t get pressure with 4 and any good qb will eat up our blitz.

I hope we see strange at some point and he can show us enough at c or g for 2025. Can we try sow again at LG until then? Jordan is a nice backup but hes not a solution for next year. Also want to see wallace get some time at rt unless Jacobs improves. If we can enter 25 needing 2 OL upgrades instead of 4 thats wonderful and doable in an offseason.

Get baker some looks. Polk and Robinson have had enough chances and really only hurting the team, i say you close the book on them for this year and revisit next year.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

What can be salvaged?
A healthy Drake Maye.

 

[Grogan14]

Can Christian Ellis and Taki Taki be long tern solutions at LB

Can Stevenson be a true RB1- I do not think so but lets find out

Yes Baker and Bell, are either keepers?

 

[Ring 6]

Can Christian Ellis and Taki Taki be long tern solutions at LB

Can Stevenson be a true RB1- I do not think so but lets find out

Yes Baker and Bell, are either keepers?

No change

Yes but a rb is only as good as his OL

No but that could change. Given their skill sets, contributions so far, and inference if potential if their draft slot id put Baker at 10% to be a solid wr3 or better quality and a 25% chance to hang around a few year mediocrely and bell about 1%/5%

 

[Hammer of Thor]

This season is toast and most probably we will lose all remaining matches.

How can we maximize the remainder of rudderless season. In my mind, I would want to know

A. Who amongst baker or Polk is worth investing . For that we need to play baker more even if it's to the detriment of team winning in near term.
B. Is Wallace good enough to be RT of future
C. Who is going to replace Jonathan Jones as CB2. If Alex Austin can show the growth , give him all the games and move back Jones as free safety.
D. How can we devise better chemistry between Maye and 3 top receivers ( Boutte, Bourne, Pop). How do we build on anticipated throws . It might be difficult, but better to try it out now than next season
E. How good is Rham really. Can we build our offense around him or is he a true JAG whom we overestimated?


Let's discuss our thoughts on what we feel the team should try out in next 6 games. Records or winning should not matter now. It should be more about experimentation and validating certain hypothesis which will serve as input points for next season.

Good topic and thread. Some of your specific questions we may not get answers to — for example, Wallace may need a full NFL offseason training regiment before we see dividends; I wouldn’t want to go into 2025 assuming he’s the guy, I’d want an actual competent player on the roster and if Wallace is able to beat him out because Wallace is doing well, great.

Some things I’d like to see:
- Will Pettus continue to play well and grow? Could be an unexpected solution.
- Will our coaching staff learn to make consistently good game plans instead of sporadically, and will they learn how to make in-game adjustments? This goes for all elements of coaching — looks like the OC has improved over the last month, while the DC and STC have regressed/stagnated.
- Can Maye continue to play well? I thought this was his best game and he looked like a young veteran out there.
- Can Maye build / continue a connection with Douglas, Boutte, Henry, and Hooper? Those are the only guys really worth a damn right now, but we need all of them to be on the same page so they can excel next year (if we resign Hooper).
- can Barmore recover to close to last year’s level by Christmas?
- can White up his game with Barmore in the lineup?
- can Marcus Jones play decently in the slot, or will we have to relegate him to the Myles Bryant role and get a better slot CB (knowing how valuable Jones is on ST, he’ll continue to be on the team for that, but can he be a reliable starter?)