What did Drake Maye learn today?

[TommyD4207]

One int was a fluke, the other was just an overthrow.

we scored 1 TD each of the first 5 games, and 3 TDs today.

He gained experience and he drastically improved the offense.

And all 3 of his turnovers led directly to points for the Texans.

 

[n1997y]

One int was a fluke, the other was just an overthrow.

we scored 1 TD each of the first 5 games, and 3 TDs today.

He gained experience and he drastically improved the offense.

That first INT was so far off target it’s misleading to say it “was just an overthrow.”

I don’t think the intended receiver was even in frame when TV showed it, the defender was so wide open.

The second INT was no fluke, he tried to throw it through a defender’s hands. It would’ve been a good play if he had put a little more air under the ball. Instead he tried to throw more of a line drive instead of a pop fly and ignored the presence of a defender in his throwing lane. The defender tipped it and his teammate caught it. Thats not a fluke, it’s a mistake.

Maye was off target more often than not all day.

Question is how he responds, and whether he can improve his accuracy and consistency next time out.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

i think you all aren’t excited enough about Drake Maye. We hear a lot about draft prospects, big arms, mobility…a lot of times you can just tell early on if they look the part. It’s in the speed of the game, their posture and command. Sometimes a cannon armed QB, for whatever reason, doesn’t just translate to the pro game. This guy looks like he might be the real deal. Time will tell.

This is what I expected Trevor Lawrence to look like in his first game.

 

[ViperGTS]

i think you all aren’t excited enough about Drake Maye. We hear a lot about draft prospects, big arms, mobility…a lot of times you can just tell early on if they look the part. It’s in the speed of the game, their posture and command. Sometimes a cannon armed QB, for whatever reason, doesn’t just translate to the pro game. This guy looks like he might be the real deal. Time will tell.

This is what I expected Trevor Lawrence to look like in his first game.

I agree. All people look at is the turnovers and mistakes. And roast the kid for them. They never watched Peyton in his first year, or hell any number of HoF QBs. He tossed 3 TD passes in his very first NFL game. Thats almost uncharted territory yet people can't see it. So many people went to hill to die on for Mac until the end but can't let themselves as you said, get excited, for something that is very real.

His decision making for the most part was correct, and if he had thrown zero TDs and had 3 turnovers I'd be ecstatic.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

He learned that he can compete at this level, and that some people are begging for him to fail so they can say "I told you so!"
Next week he'll learn to say **** off.

 

[raduray]

There was this one play where the nose tackle seemed to jump early (not called), blasted past the center and Maye reacted instantly, rolled to the right and completed a pass on the run. That ability will grow the play list and add more variety to the game plan. With Brissett, it was KISS. This reflects more on what the coaches learned.

 

[BobDigital]

Mmm these say otherwise: turnovers. bad throws. INTs.

Well one was a bad throw, not a bad choice. The other int was a tipped ball. Not saying he couldn't have made better choices but it's not like he tossed it into double coverage on a jump ball or tried to squeeze it into a much too tight zone.

As for the fumble, that was on him. Not even from his blind side. Need to feel that and be aware. Not saying the ints are not also his fault, but there are levels of mistakes. These were not egregious

 

[Patriot Missile]

Peyton Mannings first game was 21-37 302 yards, 1 td 3 ints. First td going to Harrison. He threw 28 ints that season.

I thought Maye played well and I’m surprised that there are a few fans that are nit picking the accuracy issues. How many 3 td games did Mac Jones have while he was here? The answer is 4 in 3 seasons. Maye may surpass that in one season. May even surpass the 5 300 yard games too.

Big thing is he keeps improving and builds confidence.

 

[signbabybrady]

That first INT was so far off target it’s misleading to say it “was just an overthrow.”

I don’t think the intended receiver was even in frame when TV showed it, the defender was so wide open.

The second INT was no fluke, he tried to throw it through a defender’s hands. It would’ve been a good play if he had put a little more air under the ball. Instead he tried to throw more of a line drive instead of a pop fly and ignored the presence of a defender in his throwing lane. The defender tipped it and his teammate caught it. Thats not a fluke, it’s a mistake.

Maye was off target more often than not all day.

Question is how he responds, and whether he can improve his accuracy and consistency next time out.

Take a look at the total whiff of a cut block that leads to that second interception. Timing and precision can throw everything off.

 

[signbabybrady]

Peyton Mannings first game was 21-37 302 yards, 1 td 3 ints. First td going to Harrison. He threw 28 ints that season.

I thought Maye played well and I’m surprised that there are a few fans that are nit picking the accuracy issues. How many 3 td games did Mac Jones have while he was here? The answer is 4 in 3 seasons. Maye may surpass that in one season. May even surpass the 5 300 yard games too.

Big thing is he keeps improving and builds confidence.

I liked this post because Peyton's 28 interceptions as a rookie doesn't get talked about enough. Just a fun thing to discuss nothing else to add really just thought I'd point that out.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I agree. All people look at is the turnovers and mistakes. And roast the kid for them. They never watched Peyton in his first year, or hell any number of HoF QBs. He tossed 3 TD passes in his very first NFL game. Thats almost uncharted territory yet people can't see it. So many people went to hill to die on for Mac until the end but can't let themselves as you said, get excited, for something that is very real.

His decision making for the most part was correct, and if he had thrown zero TDs and had 3 turnovers I'd be ecstatic.

I haven’t been on the board much. If people are still stanning for Mac they’re ****ing idiots. The guy was exactly what the scouting reports said, a solid game manager who can play the position competently but won’t win games by making big plays. In other words, a perfect quarterback for the Belichick-Parcells era of football that ended in the early 90s. In the modern game, an inevitable disappointment whose limitations relegate him to fringe starter or backup.

Not a knock on him or the pick. 5th QB taken in the draft. 15th overall. The limitations were well known. Obviously not every QB is an all pro. Most are busts, even in the first round. C’est la vie.

Ironically I remember a thread about how Mac never hit the big deep dagger pass and everyone blamed the WRs. It took Maye two quarters to throw a ridiculous dime that created separation.

I’d much rather have a high ceiling QB like Maye. If he fails, he fails. It’s worth the pick and the time / effort for a guy with his attributes and skills. Do we want to win championships or Andy Dalton are way to proud mediocrity? Well, to win, you need an absolute monster of a QB, not a steady hand. The risk here is worth it.

We can’t really be assessing his performance on interceptions right now. Who the **** cares? First we want to see that he can make elite plays. All the other stuff with the timing, decision making, pocket movement is well down the line of checkpoint stuff. If anyone is disappointed in today’s performance, they’re truly clueless. Josh Allen just went 9/30 against that defense, the pressure was intense all game, and Maye was playing from behind, with a C and LT who moonlight as security guards at Wal Mart. Remarkable debut performance.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I liked this post because Peyton's 28 interceptions as a rookie doesn't get talked about enough. Just a fun thing to discuss nothing else to add really just thought I'd point that out.

It was just kind of pointing to the fact he threw a **** ton of interceptions and still learned on the fly.

 

[PatRiot]

Maye 1st Game was ok. Our couching was terrible today. (Again)

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

It was just kind of pointing to the fact he threw a **** ton of interceptions and still learned on the fly.

Josh Allen and Jordan Love are two raw, athletic, big armed guys (like Maye) who looked a hell of a lot worse - for several years! - than what we saw today.

 

[PatsFan2]

It should be noted that Maye did it Today without a RB. Our RB's were very pedestrian without Rham Today hopefully his injury is not long term.

 

[archstanton543]

Circling back with my thoughts. Posted the question as I was leaving the bar where I watched the game. Didn’t post my thoughts immediately because I wanted to reflect on what I saw. Have been driving and thinking about it.

I think Maye was inaccurate more than he was accurate. Off the top of my head I’d say it was two off target throws for every one on target. He threw one INT to a wide open defender. He dropped a beautiful dime right into the basket on Boutte’s TD, but later he threw behind Hunter (I think it was Hunter) on a right to left crosser that if he led him looked like an easy TD. Yeah Maye hit himself in the head after each of those miscues, but he didn’t need game play to know he needs to be accurate with his throws.

My main question is, has he been inaccurate in practice as well? We saw some of that during preseason, now we’re seeing it when he’s on the field playing in a regular season game. Is it something he does all the time? Or does he regress under game pressure? My concern is that it’s the latter he might learn to question himself, and to lose confidence in himself. Only time will tell, but it is one of the reasons there’s been concern about playing him too soon.

He didn’t seem to have problems calling plays, getting the team set, calling protections. There were blocking problems but they didn’t seem to be his fault for not recognizing defenses or not calling protection properly, just the same blocking problems we’ve seen all season. Same with the false starts.

Experiencing game speed probably helped his development. I’m just not sure the benefits outweigh the potential problems his erratic accuracy suggests he still has.

He also threw to players who hadn't even turned around to look for the pass. That was weird. I've almost never seen that before. The second INT was an incredible play by the defender but Cooper (I think) hadn't even turned around to look for the ball.

 

[PaulThePat]

He also should learn that nationally he is getting pretty much ignored from what I have seen.

Good. Canton can wait.

 

[PaulThePat]

Josh Allen and Jordan Love are two raw, athletic, big armed guys (like Maye) who looked a hell of a lot worse - for several years! - than what we saw today.

There were a load of YT videos about Josh Allen's first season where he could barely get the ball to within 5 yards of the receiver. Love was also terrible when in relief for Rodgers. First a first NFL start in Tom Brady's house with all the expectation that brings, I thought he was unbelievably good. Perfect? Of course not. Better than anyone expected? Absolutely! Anyone who expected more needs a serious reality check.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

I haven’t been on the board much. If people are still stanning for Mac they’re ****ing idiots. The guy was exactly what the scouting reports said, a solid game manager who can play the position competently but won’t win games by making big plays. In other words, a perfect quarterback for the Belichick-Parcells era of football that ended in the early 90s. In the modern game, an inevitable disappointment whose limitations relegate him to fringe starter or backup.

Not a knock on him or the pick. 5th QB taken in the draft. 15th overall. The limitations were well known. Obviously not every QB is an all pro. Most are busts, even in the first round. C’est la vie.

Ironically I remember a thread about how Mac never hit the big deep dagger pass and everyone blamed the WRs. It took Maye two quarters to throw a ridiculous dime that created separation.

I’d much rather have a high ceiling QB like Maye. If he fails, he fails. It’s worth the pick and the time / effort for a guy with his attributes and skills. Do we want to win championships or Andy Dalton are way to proud mediocrity? Well, to win, you need an absolute monster of a QB, not a steady hand. The risk here is worth it.

We can’t really be assessing his performance on interceptions right now. Who the **** cares? First we want to see that he can make elite plays. All the other stuff with the timing, decision making, pocket movement is well down the line of checkpoint stuff. If anyone is disappointed in today’s performance, they’re truly clueless. Josh Allen just went 9/30 against that defense, the pressure was intense all game, and Maye was playing from behind, with a C and LT who moonlight as security guards at Wal Mart. Remarkable debut performance.

Totally agree with this take. He showed he belonged, on a day without Rham and with the OL at the height of disarray due to injury, against maybe the most terrifying pass rushing D in the league. Showed more poise than could possibly have been expected. Read Bourne’s comments about his leadership qualities.

Could not be more excited about this guy, looks like the total package. For all the crap Wolf gets, staying pat and taking Maye was the right move.

A shame he didn’t start vs Miami, would have been a definite win.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

i think you all aren’t excited enough about Drake Maye. We hear a lot about draft prospects, big arms, mobility…a lot of times you can just tell early on if they look the part. It’s in the speed of the game, their posture and command. Sometimes a cannon armed QB, for whatever reason, doesn’t just translate to the pro game. This guy looks like he might be the real deal. Time will tell.

This is what I expected Trevor Lawrence to look like in his first game.

Agreed, it’s his demeanor, confirmed by his media appearance afterward. He’s got the Brady mental makeup. And I think he’s already better than Trevor Lawrence, but we’ll see next Sunday.