Is Mayo the Right Guy to be leading this team?

[Ring 6]

So he targeted just six players and sat on his hands for two months? Unfortunately, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Well that’s on offense. On defense he signed Hawkins, Taki Taki, Ximines and the DT who busted out (watts?).
He also spent time resigned players.

I don’t why you characterize it as sitting on his hands. He signed players at
QB
RB
WR
TE
OT
G/C
DT
Edge
LB
S

and drafted QB, WR,WR,T,G,TE,CB

Aren’t those moves you would think someone made feeling it was what the team needed?
He signed 10 Free Agents. The problem is he had about 70,000,000 to sign 10 guys with and he only spend 30,000,000 and he didnt even get 30,000,000 of value.

Isn’t it much more likely that the guy who signed 10 players, signed the guys he thought were what was needed, and felt he did his job than it is that while we are signing 10 free agents, tennesse is signing even more (and more high caliber) Washington, Carolina, the giants, the raiders, etc are all signing players, making trades, etc etc we are the only team ever that no one wants to sign with (I guess other than 10 of the 11 we asked) and there were lots of offers made and rejected that we never heard about?

And the other thing that never gets discussed is it’s the GMs job to convince players to come here. If he can’t do that its not an excuse but a flaw.


I’m trying to look at it through the lens of evaluating the guy who put together what we are looking at with the richest offseason the team has ever had.
You seem to be accepting the result and trying to explain why no one is accountable. If you remove the assumption that he must have been negotiating with a lot more players and surely he did and they just said no even though no such reports exist, what it leaves is that if he didn’t, you agree that he should have. Right?

 

[upstater1]

Prior to the last 2 weeks, I felt bad for Mayo because I thought, as a young coach, he'd been saddled with a bunch of assistants no one really wanted, and that it would be tough for a rookie coach to overcome the support he'd been given. I also had my doubts about the front office and their ability to scout.

Last week I was totally dismayed by the really bad situational football I saw that almost directly lead to Miami getting extra points at the end of the 1st half.

In my mind, I was thinking that Jonathan Kraft underestimated the importance of coaching and paying attention to detail.

Today, I saw Mayo accept a penalty on an incompletion on a 3rd and long.

This is inexplicable. No one could ever have a good reason for doing that. This is basic football. Why would you do that? Why did our coach make such a colossal error?

What is going on?

Is Mayo really out of it?

Yes, I'm very worried because of the last 2 weeks. Prior to that I was thinking that Mayo's rep as Jerod Belichick (Belichick's 3rd son) and the good defenses we put of under him as DC, would mean that we would carry some of the hard work of the Belichick era into a new era.

Now I'm thinking, not only is our front office bad, and not only are our new assistants mostly unwanted, but the coach is, well, daft.

 

[Ring 6]

Prior to the last 2 weeks, I felt bad for Mayo because I thought, as a young coach, he'd been saddled with a bunch of assistants no one really wanted, and that it would be tough for a rookie coach to overcome the support he'd been given. I also had my doubts about the front office and their ability to scout.

Last week I was totally dismayed by the really bad situational football I saw that almost directly lead to Miami getting extra points at the end of the 1st half.

In my mind, I was thinking that Jonathan Kraft underestimated the importance of coaching and paying attention to detail.

Today, I saw Mayo accept a penalty on an incompletion on a 3rd and long.

This is inexplicable. No one could ever have a good reason for doing that. This is basic football. Why would you do that? Why did our coach make such a colossal error?

What is going on?

Is Mayo really out of it?

Yes, I'm very worried because of the last 2 weeks. Prior to that I was thinking that Mayo's rep as Jerod Belichick (Belichick's 3rd son) and the good defenses we put of under him as DC, would mean that we would carry some of the hard work of the Belichick era into a new era.

Now I'm thinking, not only is our front office bad, and not only are our new assistants mostly unwanted, but the coach is, well, daft.

Refresh my memory on the situation where he accepted a penalty on a 3rd and long incomplete pass.

 

[JayNM]

Refresh my memory on the situation where he accepted a penalty on a 3rd and long incomplete pass.

1st quarter, Texans 2nd drive. Outside throw to Tank Dell on a 3rd and long. Felt incomplete, then refs called an illegal motion on the Texans, when Diggs and other guy went on motion

 

[FCB02062]

1st quarter, Texans 2nd drive. Outside throw to Tank Dell on a 3rd and long. Felt incomplete, then refs called an illegal motion on the Texans, when Diggs and other guy went on motion

Pretty sure it was 3d and 5 bc I recall the graphic showing 3d and 10 after dumbass Mayo accepted the penalty

 

[cmasspatsfan]

1st quarter, Texans 2nd drive. Outside throw to Tank Dell on a 3rd and long. Felt incomplete, then refs called an illegal motion on the Texans, when Diggs and other guy went on motion

Wouldn't that have made it 2nd and 15 instead of 3rd and 10 I think it was?

 

[WhatJustHappened]

Thunder must have been super impressed with Mayo's acumen after seeing that from the box.

"Bill never would have thought of that...".

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Pretty sure it was 3d and 5 bc I recall the graphic showing 3d and 10 after dumbass Mayo accepted the penalty

I don't remember it being that but I'll have to look it up.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Prior to the last 2 weeks, I felt bad for Mayo because I thought, as a young coach, he'd been saddled with a bunch of assistants no one really wanted, and that it would be tough for a rookie coach to overcome the support he'd been given. I also had my doubts about the front office and their ability to scout.

Last week I was totally dismayed by the really bad situational football I saw that almost directly lead to Miami getting extra points at the end of the 1st half.

In my mind, I was thinking that Jonathan Kraft underestimated the importance of coaching and paying attention to detail.

Today, I saw Mayo accept a penalty on an incompletion on a 3rd and long.

This is inexplicable. No one could ever have a good reason for doing that. This is basic football. Why would you do that? Why did our coach make such a colossal error?

What is going on?

Is Mayo really out of it?

Yes, I'm very worried because of the last 2 weeks. Prior to that I was thinking that Mayo's rep as Jerod Belichick (Belichick's 3rd son) and the good defenses we put of under him as DC, would mean that we would carry some of the hard work of the Belichick era into a new era.

Now I'm thinking, not only is our front office bad, and not only are our new assistants mostly unwanted, but the coach is, well, daft.

Missed this. Did Mayo actually accept a penalty on 3rd and long?

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Wasn't it a pre snap penalty and can't be declined?

 

[p8ryts]

Missed this. Did Mayo actually accept a penalty on 3rd and long?

the call was changed to a completion.

 

[upstater1]

Missed this. Did Mayo actually accept a penalty on 3rd and long?

Yes, but people are saying it was called a completion, which is bizarre since the ball was on the ground.

 

[upstater1]

Wasn't it a pre snap penalty and can't be declined?

It was illegal shift. Those can be declined.

 

[upstater1]

Wouldn't that have made it 2nd and 15 instead of 3rd and 10 I think it was?

It was already 3rd and 10. It would've been 4th and 10.

But people are saying it was a completion, and this is absurd since the ball was on the ground.

 

[BobDigital]

Long term no. But he's a place holder.

 

[Force Zero Boomer]

Bill knew the rules as good or better than the refs. If Mayo continues as coach (hopefully he quits for the good of the team, because Bob won't fire him), he needs someone telling him what to do with penalties and in yardage situations, because obviously his knowledge is lacking.

 

[SEA_Pat]

strength and conditioning plays a part, no?

Have there been reports of Mayo telling the guys to stop lifting weights and running up the hill? This is a pretty tenuous and unsupported assertion. The guy's a first year head coach. It's game 6 of his first year and you already have noted he was left a pretty bare cupboard to work with. No, he's not immediately become a Master Chef, but if you expected that, then this was on you and your unrealistic expectations. Let them grow, and let him show what he can do. Why did so many start panicking as a fanbase when it was clear our expectations for this season were very low? I'm happy where we are and don't care if we lose every game from here on. We're rebuilding with a few decent pieces, several of whom are injured.

 

[SEA_Pat]

I'm getting sick of all the Mayo nays. The guy just began trying to right a sinking ship and it's going to take time.

Allow me to respond to the Master of the pithy GIF or JPG.

I WANT IT NOW!!!!

 

[PatsFan2]

The New England Packers?

Is that a joke or a insult?? You lost me.

 

[archstanton543]

I know I posted the Zero Point Zero gif earlier but I'm changing that to a decent shot of being fired. He looks lost out there. There were a couple of plays he could have challenged and didn't. He wasn't getting heated with the refs in the first half when they were calling the most ticky of ticky-tack penalties on the Pats and nothing on the Texans. He didn't even use a timeout in the second half. I bet he's a nice guy who says all the right things behind the scenes but he's too milquetoast to be a head coach in this league. No passion. Just deer-in-the-headlights out there.