Damien Woody's take on Maye timetable - its correct.

[PatsFan2]

Yeah, everyone's got "massive upside" on draft night.....

If he wasn't NFL ready, they shouldn't have taken him #3 overall.

It was said during the Draft process Maye was the Least Ready I was in favor Trading #3 for a haul.

 

[Rob0729]

I thought the Krafts were committed to winning Hmmmm well like the GOAT HC once said the last twenty years. Memories don't leave like people do they always stay with you.

We are year 1 of a new rebuilt with a potential franchise or even elite QB to groom. A commitment to winning every year is only when you already have an established system and QB on the roster.

 

[PatsFan2]

We are year 1 of a new rebuilt with a potential franchise or even elite QB to groom. A commitment to winning every year is only when you already have an established system and QB on the roster.

Well I can't think of a better time to play him take the diapers off. I won't judge him against the almighty I will Judge him against the alternative Brissett.

 

[XLIX]

It was said during the Draft process Maye was the Least Ready I was in favor Trading #3 for a haul.

+1 +1

By all reports NE didn’t get their #1 guy and realistically they also didn’t even get their #2. They absolutely should have traded the pick.

 

[Rob0729]

Well I can't think of a better time to play him take the diapers off. I won't judge him against the almighty I will Judge him against the alternative Brissett.

Sure. It will give me extra time to study up to find out who are the best QB prospects in 2027 so after the Pats ruin Maye we can find our next QB of the future.

Putting a rookie QB in the Patriots' current offensive situation is an example how bad teams ruin rookie QBs. You are just as likely to ruin Maye with the current offensive line as he is to learn from the situation. The current offensive line is not a typical o-line. It is a disaster right now. You are not going to let Maye work on his footwork and learn how to process the game when the defense is on top of him in under 2 seconds almost every play.

 

[PatsFan2]

Sure. It will give me extra time to study up to find out who are the best QB prospects in 2027 so after the Pats ruin Maye we can find our next QB of the future.

Putting a rookie QB in the Patriots' current offensive situation is an example how bad teams ruin rookie QBs. You are just as likely to ruin Maye with the current offensive line as he is to learn from the situation. The current offensive line is not a typical o-line. It is a disaster right now. You are not going to let Maye work on his footwork and learn how to process the game when the defense is on top of him in under 2 seconds almost every play.

That's' why you help the weak link with is LT right now.

 

[XLIX]

Sure. It will give me extra time to study up to find out who are the best QB prospects in 2027 so after the Pats ruin Maye we can find our next QB of the future.

THE MARCH FOR ARCH BEGINS!!!

Putting a rookie QB in the Patriots' current offensive situation is an example how bad teams ruin rookie QBs.

Gimme a break. There are 3 rookies starting right now and each of them inherited atrocious teams.

If Drake Maye is someone who can be “ruined” by a rough rookie season then he doesn’t belong in the NFL in the first place.

You are just as likely to ruin Maye with the current offensive line as he is to learn from the situation. The current offensive line is not a typical o-line. It is a disaster right now. You are not going to let Maye work on his footwork and learn how to process the game when the defense is on top of him in under 2 seconds almost every play.

And he will learn none of those things watching game film.

 

[PatsFan2]

THE MARCH FOR ARCH BEGINS!!!

Gimme a break. There are 3 rookies starting right now and each of them inherited atrocious teams.

If Drake Maye is someone who can be “ruined” by a rough rookie season the the doesn’t belong in the NFL in the first place.

And he will learn none of those things watching game film.

Lets see Maye is behind Jacoby Favre or it Jacoby Rodgers??

 

[PatsFan2]

THE MARCH FOR ARCH BEGINS!!!

Gimme a break. There are 3 rookies starting right now and each of them inherited atrocious teams.

If Drake Maye is someone who can be “ruined” by a rough rookie season then he doesn’t belong in the NFL in the first place.

And he will learn none of those things watching game film.

Please don't say that IF we can get that Guy there is now way I'm passing especially with a dormant Maye. Let's not kid ourselves those Mannings are destined to be Great.

 

[stephens44]

Maye should play about 7-8 games this year in order to prep for next season. Pats should have a top 5 pick in next year's draft, so if Maye shows some promise, they'll get the Tackle situation taken care of and I think we're on our way forward in a very good way. I just hope they get the offense ironed out before this defense starts to age out.

 

[XLIX]

Please don't say that IF we can get that Guy there is now way I'm passing especially with a dormant Maye. Let's not kid ourselves those Mannings are destined to be Great.

He's a sophomore and I have watched him this year play as a late game backup and the starter for the past 2 weeks filling in for the injured Ewers.

He is 100% the real deal. He looks better than Uncle Peyton ever did in Tennessee (and don't even mention Eli as if he belongs in the same conversation). He will be the full time starter for the next 2 years and congratulations to whatever NFL team has the #1 overall in '27.

 

[Rob0729]

THE MARCH FOR ARCH BEGINS!!!

Gimme a break. There are 3 rookies starting right now and each of them inherited atrocious teams.

If Drake Maye is someone who can be “ruined” by a rough rookie season then he doesn’t belong in the NFL in the first place.

And he will learn none of those things watching game film.

Right now people are talking about how Caleb Williams is being ruined in Chicago. He desperately needs to learn how to play football at the NFL level. He is running around freelancing and not being disciplined.

But unlike Drake Maye, these other QBs came into the NFL more NFL ready. Maye came into the league with significant mechanics problems and never played for a good offense where he could learn a lot of the basics. Even before the Patriots drafted him, many of the experts said that Maye would need to sit and learn even if it was a year. Maye had a ton of natural talent, but was clearly far from a finished product. He was the third pick based on raw talent, but his mechanics and lack of experience in an NFL system and playing in a weaker conference were always a concern for a lot of scouts.

Also, the Jets ruined Sam Darnold. He clearly doesn't belong in the league. Sure he leads the NFL in TD passes and is an early leader for the MVP candidacy, but the Vikes should cut him because for the five years before this year he was practice squad material after being a first round bust. Sam Darnold proves that bad teams can ruin good players. And good teams can resurrect those players. And rushing Maye into the line up would make the Patriots a bad team that ruins good young players.

 

[Rob0729]

That's' why you help the weak link with is LT right now.

We are not getting a new LT until the offseason. We gotta go with what we have and hope one of them finally becomes competent. Maye isn't going to make the crap the Pats have at LT look competent. But we have issues all over the o-line especially if Andrews is out for an extended period of time.

 

[XLIX]

Right now people are talking about how Caleb Williams is being ruined in Chicago.

Who the f is saying that? Caleb Williams clearly and overwhelmingly played better the past 2 weeks than he did the first 2 weeks so for now, he is 100% trending in the right direction.

He desperately needs to learn how to play football at the NFL level.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand you don't learn how to play football at the NFL level by holding a clipboard.

But unlike Drake Maye, these other QBs came into the NFL more NFL ready.

If Drake Maye wasn't NFL ready then they were morons for drafting him #3 overall. I spent all season clamoring for taking the 3 first rounders (if that was a real offer) or taking MHJ or Malik. Then it reportedly turns out we could have had Malik AND an extra first rounder. They were complete morons for rejecting that opportunity.

Also, the Jets ruined Sam Darnold. He clearly doesn't belong in the league. Sure he leads the NFL in TD passes and is an early leader for the MVP candidacy, but the Vikes should cut him because for the five years before this year he was practice squad material after being a first round bust. Sam Darnold proves that bad teams can ruin good players. And good teams can resurrect those players. And rushing Maye into the line up would make the Patriots a bad team that ruins good young players.

You don't realize it, but you are 100% proving my point. Sam Darnold was a year 1 starter and he took a ton of lumps in NY. But it didn't "ruin him". He kept playing and kept getting better. He didn't hold a clipboard for 5 years and then all of a sudden look like a star. He got to where he is now by playing.

If you are so dead set on keeping Maye in bubble wrap on the sidelines this year, then what precisely do you expect to change next year that will all of a sudden magically make him "NFL ready"...? Don't expect this team to improve drastically on offense (or defense for that matter) between now and September, 2025.

 

[XLIX]

We are not getting a new LT until the offseason. We gotta go with what we have and hope one of them finally becomes competent. Maye isn't going to make the crap the Pats have at LT look competent. But we have issues all over the o-line especially if Andrews is out for an extended period of time.

And what happens if the o-line sucks again next year? Sit Maye another full season?

 

[borg]

Maye came into the league with significant mechanics problems....

.....after many years of being a highly rated, catered to prospect, coached up at all levels, having attended elite football camps, etc.

Why do we continue to insist basic mechanics coaching was absent from this QB's development regimen during his entire HS/College career?

Why do we desperately avoid the possibility that Maye might not be able to overcome these systemic issues?

many of the experts said that Maye would need to sit and learn even if it was a year.

Experts....and now his coaches

lack of experience in an NFL system and playing in a weaker conference were always a concern for a lot of scouts.

Do I dare utter........OVERDRAFTED?

Sam Darnold proves that bad teams can ruin good players.

Then Maye is doomed

And good teams can resurrect those players.

The implication that Maye has found his way onto a "good" team is "chowderheaded".

Note: One synonym for DELUSIONAL is "chowderheaded"......I kid you not.

Note 2.0: Still waiting for the "good team" Jacoby resurrection?

I think I'm seeing "bad team" reversion

 

[dliverey44]

Seems to me that you're saying more experience helps improve a quarterback.

I agree 100%.

Which support that we should get Maye in there for the experience. I was in the sit him for a month club and knew the handshake. A month will have passed by our next game and JB proved he is not worthy of starting. People say we are not going to be good anyway so play the kid. For all those but what about Mac screamers, Maye has a different mental makeup it seems. You just are not a lil ***** when you have 3 or 4 older brothers

 

[Rob0729]

And what happens if the o-line sucks again next year? Sit Maye another full season?

Who said the o-line will suck next year? Who said the o-line is going to suck all this year? Odds are the Pats will be drafting a LT early in the draft and free agency, as of right now, will have an unusual amount of starting quality tackles available.

 

[Rob0729]

.....after many years of being a highly rated, catered to prospect, coached up at all levels, having attended elite football camps, etc.

Why do we continue to insist basic mechanics coaching was absent from this QB's development regimen during his entire HS/College career?

Why do we desperately avoid the possibility that Maye might not be able to overcome these systemic issues?

Experts....and now his coaches

Do I dare utter........OVERDRAFTED?

Then Maye is doomed

The implication that Maye has found his way onto a "good" team is "chowderheaded".

Note: One synonym for DELUSIONAL is "chowderheaded"......I kid you not.

Note 2.0: Still waiting for the "good team" Jacoby resurrection?

I think I'm seeing "bad team" reversion

Maye has been able to excel without great mechanics. It happens a lot. Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Bernie Kosar are all QBs who had bad mechanics in college and fixed them in the NFL. It isn't as unusual as you think. A lot of colleges do not spend the time fixing these things because the short window they have with these players. And they feel if it ain't broke (in terms of hurting his production at the college level), don't fix it.

And based on what we saw in the summer, Maye had taken big steps in improving his mechanics. So it could be he was just never properly trained.

And Maye was always a top 2-3 draft pick all last season. It wasn't until the Bowl games until Daniels jumped ahead of Maye. I don't think he was overdrafted.

I never said the Pats were a good team. I am saying starting Maye before he is ready and behind a disaster o-line is the mark of a bad team that ruins QBs.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Maye has been able to excel without great mechanics. It happens a lot. Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford, Tony Romo, Aaron Rodgers, Bernie Kosar are all QBs who had bad mechanics in college and fixed them in the NFL. It isn't as unusual as you think. A lot of colleges do not spend the time fixing these things because the short window they have with these players. And they feel if it ain't broke (in terms of hurting his production at the college level), don't fix it.

And based on what we saw in the summer, Maye had taken big steps in improving his mechanics. So it could be he was just never properly trained.

And Maye was always a top 2-3 draft pick all last season. It wasn't until the Bowl games until Daniels jumped ahead of Maye. I don't think he was overdrafted.

I never said the Pats were a good team. I am saying starting Maye before he is ready and behind a disaster o-line is the mark of a bad team that ruins QBs.

The fact that the team is fine by playing him if Brissett gets injured on the 1st play next Sunday shows that he is ready. If he is not then they are just dumb and should have a veteran backup.

To me they are just covering their asses. They are waiting for Brissett to get injured so they can say : « we were forced to play Maye despite him not being ready because Jakoby got hurt » in case Maye looks bad. If Brissett doesn’t get injured even better for them. He doesn’t play this year so if he sucks next year they can say : « not our fault! We were patient and sat him a year so he is just not good enough ». If they play him by their own accord and he sucks then everybody will say : « you should have sat him a year »