Mayo Made The Right Call, The Only Call - Brissett over Maye

[Ring 6]

Perhaps if the OL was set early in camp, and looked good in the pre-season, THEN Maye might have started Game 1.

I certainly saw it as POSSIBLE that Okorafor would look good at LT and either Wallace at RT, Wallace at swing, or Onwenu at rt and RObinson starting. As some have been saying for months, the OL MAY be a player away from competency with four starters in place: Sow, Andrews, Onwenu and either Robinson or Wallace.

The key was and is Okorafor. If he is a semi-competent LT, then he or Lowe can start and backup, and that line can start all year.

Yesterday you told me they would even resemble functional until mid season

So your argument now if that the QBs really were competing for a job, but it was actually the OL competing to determine the QB?

Look, this team is going to blow this year. That for was catches they chose not to try to be competitive and save money instead.
So these decisions won’t have a visible impact this year, except people who weren’t aware this team would blow.
But what I find important isn’t the decisions but the methodology. Decisions I see as bad made in the framework of good methodology are just the consequence of it being impossible to always get it right in a competitive sport.
But if the methodology is bad, there will be a lot more bad decisions than good ones.
Whatever methodology led to drafting a QB with the 3rd pick, then being scared to play him because you can’t protect him (if in fact that there story) while leaving 50,000,000 on the table is terrible methodology. And that points to long range failure.

 

[Clonamery]

Perhaps if the OL was set early in camp, and looked good in the pre-season, THEN Maye might have started Game 1.

I certainly saw it as POSSIBLE that Okorafor would look good at LT and either Wallace at RT, Wallace at swing, or Onwenu at rt and RObinson starting. As some have been saying for months, the OL MAY be a player away from competency with four starters in place: Sow, Andrews, Onwenu and either Robinson or Wallace.

The key was and is Okorafor. If he is a semi-competent LT, then he or Lowe can start and backup, and that line can start all year.

"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, wouldn't it be a Merry Christmas?" - Dandy Don Meredith

 

[mgteich]

Look, this team is going to blow this year. .

OK, thank you for your analysis.

As I do once in awhile, it is time to put you on ignore. There is no reason to continue to read the harangues on how terrible we are and that we will "blow the season", whatever that could mean in a team that is projected to win 4 or 5 games.

Thanks again for your analysis over the past few weeks. You have made some excellent points.

 

[Clonamery]

OK, thank you for your analysis.

As I do once in awhile, it is time to put you on ignore. There is no reason to continue to real the harangues on how terrible we are and that we will "blow the season", whatever that could mean in a team that is project to win 4 or 5 games.

Thank again for your analysis over the past few weeks. You have made some excellent points.

This might be the funniest post you have ever had.

 

[Ring 6]

OK, thank you for your analysis.

As I do once in awhile, it is time to put you on ignore. There is no reason to continue to real the harangues on how terrible we are and that we will "blow the season", whatever that could mean in a team that is project to win 4 or 5 games.

Thank again for your analysis over the past few weeks. You have made some excellent points.

Ok yeah they have had a tremendous off season, done everything right and this will be a wonderful year. Yay!!!!
And if it’s not, that’s ok because “we expected it”

 

[maust]

Thanks again for your analysis over the past few weeks. You have made some excellent points.

With such cogent commentary as this it's hard not to agree






Seriously, dafuq does that even mean? That's either next level rocket surgery type stuff that's way beyond the understanding of the masses or the result of some heavy ass day drinking.

 

[PP2]

As Fans we deserve better than Brissett if they needed a one year Bridge QB get somebody better. We are a win on everybody's schedule with Brissett it has come to that.

Brissett wasn't brought in because of his talent but because he spent an entire year in AVP's system so he doesn't need much guidance. My feeling is that this was something the coaches sought so that they could spend most of their time on developing Maye.

Everyone and their uncle knows that Brissett is strictly a placeholder. He's not here to wow anyone.

That being said, I expect the GDT to melt down regardless.

 

[PatsFan2]

Brissett wasn't brought in because of his talent but because he spent an entire year in AVP's system so he doesn't need much guidance. My feeling is that this was something the coaches sought so that they could spend most of their time on developing Maye.

Everyone and their uncle knows that Brissett is strictly a placeholder. He's not here to wow anyone.

That being said, I expect the GDT to melt down regardless.

AVP's system is overrated who can't run that??

 

[Clonamery]

Brissett wasn't brought in because of his talent but because he spent an entire year in AVP's system so he doesn't need much guidance. My feeling is that this was something the coaches sought so that they could spend most of their time on developing Maye.

Everyone and their uncle knows that Brissett is strictly a placeholder. He's not here to wow anyone.

That being said, I expect the GDT to melt down regardless.

You'd have to change the name if there wasn't a meltdown.

 

[PatsFan2]

@Clonamery keep laughing AVP's Offense is not as innovative as Reed's - Shanahan's or Mcvay's. IF Brissett is so adept at running it why did he look so ineffective in the preseason against vanilla Defenses?? As a Vet he looked like a clueless Rookie in a system he's supposed to be familiar with. Again his supposed familiarity is overrated.

 

[PP2]

AVP's system is overrated who can't run that??

Overrated by who?

 

[pats99]

For you, there is only black and white.

PLAN A is for Brissett to play for a few games, and for the Offense to play the first quarter developing the Offense and developing our OL. As Belichick used to say, the first quarter is an extended pre-season. Under this plan, Brissett would most likely start Game 5.
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PLAN B

Just because there is a Plan A doesn't mean that events that might change this plan.

One of those events is Brissett getting injured, in which case Maye would play. Perhaps this wasn't decided until the team was comfortable that they had in fact gotten him ready to play earlier than Game 5, if necessary.
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Another possible contingency COULD have occurred, If the OL developed early in camp, and was playing reasonably well and consistently, Maye MIGHT HAVE started Game 1.

When Mayo got hired he said things would be different and he was going to be "Mr Transparent". Well, how has that worked out for you so far, Jerod.

Now you spend so much of your limited time figuring out how you are going to walk back those things you said. Thats because the media and ~ some fans ~ are just looking for stuff to pick you apart. Of course plans change, you think Bill never changed his plans. Bill would have just said "We will do whats best for the team and make that decision when the time comes." and that would be the end of that. Sure Bill may be on the other end of the spectrum, but why say crap like "we are ready to burn some cash" or name starting QB way before the season starts, that stuff is going to bite you every time.

 

[Pape]

AVP's system is overrated who can't run that??

he doesn't have a "system" yet... thats half the problem

 

[IcyPatriot]

IMO the team functionally needs lots of growth from the Krafts right down to the practice squad.
An average veteran QB to above that gives the team leadership and stability ... allows needed time to grow in all the other areas.
Last year ... behind Mac and Zappe there was nowhere to go to improve stability.

I believe the right call was made ... regardless how much better (ON FIELD) Drake may be at this time.
Do not believe any of it has to do with sucking ... however were we a decent playoff contender I do believe Drake would start now.

But as of tomorrow we are not ... a dark horse? .... well that would be interesting and fun ... just not betting on it for now.
We could grab a few trap game wins .... opponent just overlooks us ... it does happen.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Salsalife]

Year 4, post Brady begins...

 

[Jim Beankie]

Reading BB's comments and McD's, the 1st comparison that popped up in my head was throwing an experienced driver who's never driven a manual before into a car race where a stick shift is required. Depending on previous experience, you can add driving in the UK/Ireland/NZ/OZ where driving is on the opposite side and all the controls are flipped, too. He'll get there.

 

[Pats2000]

I strongly disagree, actually for many of the same reasons.

Maye is the future of this franchise. Every snap he misses is development he doesn’t get. Every game he sits slows his learning curve. This team will stink. So the #1 goal if this season should be working toward next season. Should we have kept juju so we can sit Polk because we aren’t good?
The quality (lack of) the roster is all the more reason to play him.
We are trying to groom a championship QB. Every bit of adversity he will deal with as the QB of a poor, untalented team, is the same adversity he will need to deal with to win championships. If he learns to deal with poor ol play, he is better equipped for not only the game where is ol is bad, but the instances as well. Calm under fire is a learned trait.
If he has to lead a crappy team who falls behind 21-0 in the first quarter, he gains that experience, which he can draw on if he is down 28-3 in a Super Bowl or has the ball with 2 minutes left in his 14th career game and needs to drive the team to a win, or something like that.

This offense is not that different than the offense of the 2001 Patriots, QB aside, in fact it arguably could be better. Brady learned a lot of lessons that year.

Yeah, because Brady and Mahommes suffered so bad from sitting their first year

 

[Pats2000]

When Mayo got hired he said things would be different and he was going to be "Mr Transparent". Well, how has that worked out for you so far, Jerod.

Now you spend so much of your limited time figuring out how you are going to walk back those things you said. Thats because the media and ~ some fans ~ are just looking for stuff to pick you apart. Of course plans change, you think Bill never changed his plans. Bill would have just said "We will do whats best for the team and make that decision when the time comes." and that would be the end of that. Sure Bill may be on the other end of the spectrum, but why say crap like "we are ready to burn some cash" or name starting QB way before the season starts, that stuff is going to bite you every time.

This post isn't aging well watching the Pats and Bengals play

 

[pats99]

This post isn't aging well watching the Pats and Bengals play

Go Pats !! Well we are not getting a bagel this season. Feels so good to get the first one. Here's hoping this isn't the proverbial "even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes". Didn't feel like it, they played a very familar patriots brand of mistake free football. yikes perhaps go 2-0 against Seattle !!

And regarding what I said regarding Mayo perhaps here is probably a more ~ gentler/pc ~ way of saying the same thing. The dude got limited time, don't need the distractions. Rookie head coach. He will learn...
See 1:13 of this.