Camp surprise cut 2024

[captain stone]

Who?


You just made up that name, right?

UDFA LB from Georgia State who was waived by the Pats today.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Because cherry picking six individual games out of 34 played the last two seasons is not how you judge defense.

Especially when many of those points allowed came from Mac pick sixes and turnovers, not a failure by the defense… on a per game basis Mac lead the league at both the last two years.

Many times I've provided the record and points that the defense has allowed to teams .500 and above since 2020 and it's really bad. The same boring excuse of the offense being bad is not a good one.

The #1 seed in the AFC the last two years, you’re only making it worse.

Wut

Agree with SB1. I have know idea what you mean by this statement.

 

[Real fan 02]

That’s not at all why the coaching had to change.

I think that's when he had his 5th sip of vodka he was posting..

 

[captain stone]

I think that's when he had his 5th sip of vodka he was posting..

I think what Wozzy means is that Barfalo is so dam good that those losses aren’t quite as embarrassingly devastating as they seem… which I can buy to a (very) small degree; but Zero Punts is still Zero Punts, no matter how lousy our QB was.

 

[rkarp1]

Dead cap creates more dead cap… genius. Tell the Chargers not to worry about that JC Jackson dead cap, it’s actually a good thing. And tell the 49ers to pay Aiyuk already, the cap doesn’t exist.

The Pats were very good drafters up until 2016, 2017 they didn’t draft at all trading all their picks into the future. 2018 was a decent class, even if their top pick missed that season. Sony ran them to a ring, and three other players from that class are still playing well.

From 2019 they missed a lot of draft picks, but they weren’t going to be good in 2020 and Tom wasn’t staying if they drafted AJ Brown instead of Harry. His marriage was on the rocks, she wanted out. From 2019-2020 they drafted poorly and BB needed some help.

I’ve said repeatedly I’ve liked the personnel moves by the collaboration, not all of them but most… they just missed on Mac, he stunk. Also the coaching. had to change, BB and Jonathan couldn’t exist together anymore and Jon owns the team.

yes correct
dead cap rolls to the 1 season of the transaction, often creating cap space in that season, and eliminating money in future years.
of course it is not always the case in year 1, but it is money already spent, and cutting your loss is always better than spending good money on bad results.
JC Jack is an interesting example. the Chargers took a $21m dead cap hit on JC. However, they saved $44m in future money owed. good deal or bad deal?
cap is crap

 

[Wozzy]

Ok so by your logic the O-line makes the QB? Like D lineman most o lineman are big physically imposing guys that are not good at throwing or catching so they have a gift of strength. Great QB play can aid an o line.. was Matt light a pro bowler before brady became a starter? Woody? Koppen? They all have said brady made thier lives so much easier. Mahomes line wasn't all that great last season but he still got to another SB. Brady looked like a pretty good magician to me at times especially when we didn't have great o line play the non scar years. Of course if the line doesn't protect the QB has no time.. but when you get rid of the ball like brady did usually 1.8 seconds as von Miller said he timed.. it makes thier job so much easier.

No one position “makes” another player or position… the notion is absurd.

The line is closest to the football, the first position to touch the ball. Listen to Jim Harbaugh’s description of offensive line when he was at the draft. They’re the only position that doesn’t rely on someone else to play well, they do it alone… and every other position; QB, RB, WR, TE relies on them to do their job.

Brady may have made his lines job easier sometimes by getting the ball out fast, he wasn’t out there blocking a 320 pound defensive tackle.

Harbaugh’s not wrong, he knows exactly what he’s talking about. Football is won in the trenches.

 

[sb1]

No one position “makes” another player or position… the notion is absurd.

The line is closest to the football, the first position to touch the ball. Listen to Jim Harbaugh’s description of offensive line when he was at the draft. They’re the only position that doesn’t rely on someone else to play well, they do it alone… and every other position; QB, RB, WR, TE relies on them to do their job.

Brady may have made his lines job easier sometimes by getting the ball out fast, he wasn’t out there blocking a 320 pound defensive tackle.

Harbaugh’s not wrong, he knows exactly what he’s talking about. Football is won in the trenches.

Nonsense everyone knows it’s all Mac Jones fault

Even when Zappe was stinking it up… that was Jones too. He made him play bad. Something something something.

 

[Wozzy]

It’s relevant. Bill’s defense hasn’t shut down good teams like Buffalo ever since Brady left. Truth hurts.

Defenses don’t play in a vacuum. You don’t understand football.

Just for giggles I went to PFR and looked at Mac’s splits against Buffalo over his career.

5 games, 2-3 record, 175 passing yards per game, 6.2 YPA, 63% completions, 6 TD’s/5 INT’s, 79.9 QB Rating, 3 fumbles.

Why couldn’t they beat the best teams in the league, why did those opponents score points… because Mac turned it over at minimum once per game, because on a per game basis he led the NFL in pick sixes, because he couldn’t score.

One of Mac’s two victories out of five games came with him throwing 3 passes… learn the game.

 

[Wozzy]

That’s not at all why the coaching had to change.

Nobody cares what biased agenda driven clowns think except likeminded fools.

 

[Wozzy]

Many times I've provided the record and points that the defense has allowed to teams .500 and above since 2020 and it's really bad. The same boring excuse of the offense being bad is not a good one.

And how many turnovers did our offense have? How many pick sixes? How many turnovers did they commit on the opponent’s side of the field, how many giveaways that placed opposing offenses in their red zone? How many three and outs did our offense have?

It’s pretty simple, you can’t read or comprehend team stats.

 

[Wozzy]

yes correct
dead cap rolls to the 1 season of the transaction, often creating cap space in that season, and eliminating money in future years.
of course it is not always the case in year 1, but it is money already spent, and cutting your loss is always better than spending good money on bad results.
JC Jack is an interesting example. the Chargers took a $21m dead cap hit on JC. However, they saved $44m in future money owed. good deal or bad deal?
cap is crap

Saying “dead cap is a good thing” is peak stupidity… that’s like saying cancer or herpes is a good thing… just stop.

 

[rkarp1]

Defenses don’t play in a vacuum. You don’t understand football.

Just for giggles I went to PFR and looked at Mac’s splits against Buffalo over his career.

5 games, 2-3 record, 175 passing yards per game, 6.2 YPA, 63% completions, 6 TD’s/5 INT’s, 79.9 QB Rating, 3 fumbles.

Why couldn’t they beat the best teams in the league, why did those opponents score points… because Mac turned it over at minimum once per game, because on a per game basis he led the NFL in pick sixes, because he couldn’t score.

One of Mac’s two victories out of five games came with him throwing 3 passes… learn the game.

on the flip side, offenses do not play in a vacuum. with the Pats behind in every game, the Bills knew the Pats were going to pass, and played accordingly. they were able to get to Mac sending 4, and the Pats had no one capable of breaking a play. that recipe is for the Pats to lose.
fwiw, that was Bill's plan on offense. try to win games 13-10, winning the field position and FG games. to his credit, the Pats did lose games because of ST play.

 

[Wozzy]

Nonsense everyone knows it’s all Mac Jones fault

Even when Zappe was stinking it up… that was Jones too. He made him play bad. Something something something.

Mac started 42 games, Zappe started 8…

Your obsession that “Zappe was bad therefore Mac was somehow better” is real glue sniffing stupidity.

 

[rkarp1]

Saying “dead cap is a good thing” is peak stupidity… that’s like saying cancer or herpes is a good thing… just stop.

saving cash on players that did not work out for the team is always a good thing

 

[Wozzy]

on the flip side, offenses do not play in a vacuum. with the Pats behind in every game, the Bills knew the Pats were going to pass, and played accordingly. they were able to get to Mac sending 4, and the Pats had no one capable of breaking a play. that recipe is for the Pats to lose.
fwiw, that was Bill's plan on offense. try to win games 13-10, winning the field position and FG games. to his credit, the Pats did lose games because of ST play.

One playoff game in 2021 isn’t the sum of five starts, the offense wasn’t always playing from behind. The offense was playing from behind in that game because Mac threw an interception on the very first drive, he threw an interception on the very first drive exiting the half.

The defense didn’t play well either, in football shootouts happen. If Mac was Herbert or Burrow instead they could have competed in a shoot-out and hopefully our D would have made more plays in the end… but Mac sucked. He didn’t score a TD until garbage time when Bills had their backups on the field.

 

[Wozzy]

saving cash on players that did not work out for the team is always a good thing

Dead cap is a net negative, there’s nothing good about it.

That’s like saying the guy who was rock climbing and got his arm caught in between two boulders, then had to cut his arm off with his pocket knife to survive had a great experience climbing that day.

Stop being willfully ignorant.

 

[sb1]

Mac started 42 games, Zappe started 8…

Your obsession that “Zappe was bad therefore Mac was somehow better” is real glue sniffing stupidity.

Jones is better than Zappe. Jones is an NFL backup and Zappe will likely be out of the league in a couple of months.

Another genius pick by BB oh right the CoLLabOratIOn. Could have had a real QB like Howell as a backup in the 4th round that year but went with a noodle arm smurf that zero other teams had any interest in for his pet project…. because Bill is smarter. Lol

 

[sb1]

One playoff game in 2021 isn’t the sum of five starts, the offense wasn’t always playing from behind. The offense was playing from behind in that game because Mac threw an interception on the very first drive, he threw an interception on the very first drive exiting the half.

The defense didn’t play well either, in football shootouts happen. If Mac was Herbert or Burrow instead they could have competed in a shoot-out and hopefully our D would have made more plays in the end… but Mac sucked. He didn’t score a TD until garbage time when Bills had their backups on the field.

#DefendTheWall

It’s never Bill or his defense’s fault that’s why he is coaching somewhere now. Oh wait

 

[PatsFan2]

Jones is better than Zappe. Jones is an NFL backup and Zappe will likely be out of the league in a couple of months.

Another genius pick by BB oh right the CoLLabOratIOn. Could have had a real QB like Howell as a backup in the 4th round that year but went with a noodle arm smurf as his pet project…. because Bill is smarter. Lol

Don't forget Mr irrelevant Brock Purdy.

 

[Wozzy]

Jones is better than Zappe. Jones is an NFL backup and Zappe will likely be out of the league in a couple of months.

Another genius pick by BB oh right the CoLLabOratIOn. Could have had a real QB like Howell as a backup in the 4th round that year but went with a noodle arm smurf that zero other teams had any interest in for his pet project…. because Bill is smarter. Lol

Zappe was better than Mac statistically, doesn’t mean he was good, just better than Mac. Your obsession with Zappe is odd, he’ll be gone soon also and you can obsess over his ghost the way you do BB and TB12.