Cole Strange

[Brotherblues]

Uh, yeah but . . . The next year McVay selected Steve Avila, a center, at 36, a few spots below where Strange was selected the year before. They moved him to G and he hasn’t exactly set the world on fire.

He's been at least decent and plays every snap. And they didn't pass up McDuffie to get him.

 

[Water Boy]

Strange on PUP explains the drafting of Reynolds.

There has been significant draft capital spent on the OG position, the last few years. Hopefully we have some average to above average starters in house for the foreseeable future.

 

[203Pat]

Uh, yeah but . . . The next year McVay selected Steve Avila, a center, at 36, a few spots below where Strange was selected the year before. They moved him to G and he hasn’t exactly set the world on fire.

1. How will Steve Avila Transition to Center? One of the biggest changes to the Rams offensive line from last year is moving Steve Avila to center. Overall, there shouldn’t be too much to be concerned about here. Avila played center for two years at TCU and only moved to left guard out of necessity. The same could be said last year when Avila played left guard as a rookie because the team already had Coleman Shelton. It’s clear that the Rams wanted to get bigger on the offensive line which is why moving Avila to center makes sense. Still, when you take a player who was succeeding at one position and move him to another, there is going to be some uneasiness. Avila should transition fine, but it will be something to keep an eye one, especially as he develops a snapping rapport with Matthew Stafford as well as take over making protection calls at the line of scrimmage.

Steve Avila is only going into his second season in the NFL but he’s already become an integral part of the Los Angeles Rams – both on the field and off it. The 2023 second-round pick started every game and played every offensive snap last season at left guard and the expectation is for him to do the same at guard in 2024.



Sure sounds like a real loser to me. Who wants a guy who can play multiple positions on the line and not miss a single snap? I bet we could trade Strange for him right now straight up! Man McVay is so stupid!

 

[VrabelJr]

Happened during a game.

With him in there, the Patriots reeled off 4 straight 100+ yard rushing games. Then he was leg whipped to the knee.

There’s a lot of people playing revisionist history about Strange’s performance last season. While playing with an injury he was top 10 IOL for run blocking. He did have room to improve at pass blocking though. I hope he gets healthy.

 

[Wozzy]

Admit it, "Cole Strange" as the pick was irrelevant... you just hated that BB traded back in the first, then had the temerity to take a guard. People had a similar reaction when he took Logan Mankins at the end of the first round... Kiper ripped him along with the rest of the national media, and fans in places like this. Fans hate taking a small school guard late in the first after they've waited for hours to see what the team would do. It's boring.

Strange played really well his rookie year, especially for a rookie. He had some hiccups early on, just like Solder and other rookie starters they drafted, then he put it all together and played great the last 8 games of that season. Even last year in the turmoil and mess he was a stabilizing force if only for a short time, this while playing on an already injured knee.

Nobody outside of Patriot nation thinks about Cole Strange in the least... you people will hang on his draft pick for a decade or more, even if he gets healthy and has a long successful career.

They drafted a guard three picks removed from the second round... get over it. He's played a year and a half, he got hurt, injuries happen... get over it. What we have is a mix of people aghast with drafting a guard in the first, mixed with our typical garden variety BB haters... a perfect storm of whining.

If I was wrong... we wouldn't have endless discussion about a guard, the most vanilla position in football, or need the mods to merge multiple new Cole Strange threads in with the old one daily.... because of a guard.

It's kind of sad, the kid had no power over where or who drafted him. He played through injury last season until he sustained another injury on an already injured knee.

Now we have "fans" taking glee in his injury because of their personal bias. I wish the kid well and hope he makes a full recovery.

 

[Spiral]

This is where I am at with Strange. When he plays he's average and at this point they have plenty of interior offensive linemen on the roster and by the law of averages one of them will probably be equivalent to Strange in terms of production. I see people penciling in Strange as a starter just because he has been in the past but he now is playing for a regime that didn't draft him, he has a lot more competition, and he is coming off a major injury. In my opinion, he is just as likely to get cut at some point this season as he is to be a starter again.

I believe first-round contracts are fully guaranteed, so cutting him wouldn't save any cap, only a roster spot. He should be PUP then IR until he says he's 100%. He's almost 26, so you can't really expect much improvement beyond that point.

 

[203Pat]

I believe first-round contracts are fully guaranteed, so cutting him wouldn't save any cap, only a roster spot. He should be PUP then IR until he says he's 100%. He's almost 26, so you can't really expect much improvement beyond that point.

As far as first round picks go he isn't making a ton but if a couple of the guys picked last year and this year develop on the interior there's a solid chance they just move on from him when he gets healthy. Not saying it will happen I just disagree with the "pencil him in as a starter when healthy" take.

 

[rkarp1]

Admit it, "Cole Strange" as the pick was irrelevant... you just hated that BB traded back in the first, then had the temerity to take a guard. People had a similar reaction when he took Logan Mankins at the end of the first round... Kiper ripped him along with the rest of the national media, and fans in places like this. Fans hate taking a small school guard late in the first after they've waited for hours to see what the team would do. It's boring.

Strange played really well his rookie year, especially for a rookie. He had some hiccups early on, just like Solder and other rookie starters they drafted, then he put it all together and played great the last 8 games of that season. Even last year in the turmoil and mess he was a stabilizing force if only for a short time, this while playing on an already injured knee.

Nobody outside of Patriot nation thinks about Cole Strange in the least... you people will hang on his draft pick for a decade or more, even if he gets healthy and has a long successful career.

They drafted a guard three picks removed from the second round... get over it. He's played a year and a half, he got hurt, injuries happen... get over it. What we have is a mix of people aghast with drafting a guard in the first, mixed with our typical garden variety BB haters... a perfect storm of whining.

If I was wrong... we wouldn't have endless discussion about a guard, the most vanilla position in football, or need the mods to merge multiple new Cole Strange threads in with the old one daily.... because of a guard.

It's kind of sad, the kid had no power over where or who drafted him. He played through injury last season until he sustained another injury on an already injured knee.

Now we have "fans" taking glee in his injury because of their personal bias. I wish the kid well and hope he makes a full recovery.

total BS
today, where Strange was drafted, or by whom, is irrelevant.
he played to league average as a rookie. he is on the older side so his room to grow may be limited.
the management that drafted him, then went out and drafted 3 IOL. the next management group then went out and signed a free agent OG and drafted an OG.
everyone wants Strange to get well and succeed. many question if he will

 

[TheRainMaker]

This is why we talk about him:

"Strange's rookie season left much to be desired. He surrendered 23 total pressures while taking six penalties across 598 pass-block snaps while also finishing with a putrid 48.3 run-block grade, per Pro Football Focus.

The 2023 campaign wasn't much better, though. While Strange's run-block grade increased to 66.2, his pass-block mark dropped from 67.8 to 57.7 after allowing 22 pressures on 340 pass-block downs — only one fewer than last year despite playing 258 fewer snaps due to injury."

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"Surprisingly, he hasn't lived up to his draft spot, either. Strange has missed time with injury and been benched in the middle of games for looking more like a turnstile. "

Revisiting the Patriots' 2022 NFL Draft, which is looking like one big disaster

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[rkarp1]

This is why we talk about him:

"Strange's rookie season left much to be desired. He surrendered 23 total pressures while taking six penalties across 598 pass-block snaps while also finishing with a putrid 48.3 run-block grade, per Pro Football Focus.

The 2023 campaign wasn't much better, though. While Strange's run-block grade increased to 66.2, his pass-block mark dropped from 67.8 to 57.7 after allowing 22 pressures on 340 pass-block downs — only one fewer than last year despite playing 258 fewer snaps due to injury."

3 Patriots Draft Picks Who Are Officially Busts Following 2023 Season

The New England Patriots don't always strike gold when it comes to their draft picks. Now that the 2023 NFL season is in the books, it's officially time to labe

chowderandchampions.com

"Surprisingly, he hasn't lived up to his draft spot, either. Strange has missed time with injury and been benched in the middle of games for looking more like a turnstile. "

Revisiting the Patriots' 2022 NFL Draft, which is looking like one big disaster

The 2022 NFL Draft was a golden opportunity for Bill Belichick and company to bring in a new generation of Patriots players to help stabilize the franchise. But they missed. Boy did they miss.

www.cbsnews.com

I believe Wozz-wald called Strange's benching a learning moment.
look, I applaud Strange. he went down in training camp and tried to avoid surgery and tough out the season. I like that trait.
but the facts are that Strange missed games 1,4,5,6 with said injury. he then reinjured the same knee and missed games 15,16,17.
season 2 7 missed games.
season 3 perhaps 8 or more missed games? (month to month per Mayo)

 

[captain stone]

Yes, Cole Strange was overdrafted. That's a sunk cost that cannot be changed and is now irrelevant.
What if Strange was a 4th or 6th round draft pick; is he still a bum?

Based on when he was placed on IR, then surgery, and then rehab - the timeline for being 100% was always going to be August, possibly September.

Strange should have been placed on IR before the season began, and had his surgery in September. Had that happened he would be 100% now, rather than rehabbing. He should not have been playing at all last year - and because he was playing injured his performance was not great.

Whether that decision is his fault, his agent's, Belichick, the team doctors - nobody knows and we'll likely never know.

Had Gonzalez played through his 2023 injury and as a result performed poorly on the field, still rehabbing now, would he too be an 'overdrafted bum'? If Judon had done the same, would he be an 'overpriced free agent'?


The Cole Strange hate on this forum is off the charts, in multiple threads. I guess he represents the last chance for people here to gripe about Belichick's draft decisions.

This ****ing dude wasn’t even the starting Left ****ing Tackle on his own dam pissant D3 ****ing team, and Billy Notgoat takes him with the 29TH overall pick in the whole ****ing draft when he was barely a top-75 value, and unsurprisingly he has failed to justify his status…

A pox on both their houses.

McVay & Snead were right.

 

[captain stone]

Who went in the Pats original draft slot to KC? Trent McDuffie who now an All Pro.

I actually didn’t mind the trade-down; but as usual in cases involving Notgoat & draft picks, he chose wrongly whenever he did choose. That 2022 draft was one giant-ass ****UP, from the first pick to the last. Every. Single. One, as some of us had proclaimed Immediately afterwards.

 

[captain stone]

The previous regime certainly lost its fastball the last few years. What do you want done? Cut him becuse he was overdrafted by Bill?
This is dumb!

I’m not suggesting that he be cut this year…However, if Siddy the Sow performs as well at LG as I believe he can, then Strange69 will be looking for a new team two years from now, if not one year from now.

 

[captain stone]

Strange thread, indeed.

He'll be fine by week 3 or 4, IMO.

I think he’s gonna start the season on the PUP list; same perhaps for DawgHouse Bourne as well…

 

[captain stone]

Strange has been decent, not great but not a fiasco like Mafi was last year (or like Kenyon Green has been who was picked for 15 slots higher than Strange). He was OK or better when healthy, which he was not for all of last season. Coming from a Division 1 FCS program, his coaches were Matt Patricia and Billy Yates, then Adrian Klemm followed apparently by James Ferentz, that’s some ******** coaching.

I venture to say there hav been 50,000 posts on the this forum *****ing about that pick. At this point what’s the point?

Because this is a message board…?

 

[captain stone]

Ray Lewis killed a dude

How dare you… He killed Two dudes!

 

[captain stone]

Logan Mankins says FU.

You mean the same Logan Mankin$ who was the Starting Left Tackle for his Division One college?

 

[captain stone]

I'd say Jordan Richards and that one were the two worst.

Rohrwasser too. That's a 5th round pick on a kicker who didn't even make the team. Lol

More proof of Notgoat’s spotty, to say the very least, drafting legacy, especially from 2013 onward though there were top-100 clunkers practically Every year, that we can keep coming-up with names of really inexplicably bone-headed picks that people who should’ve known better continued to make, year after year after year…

 

[AQPE]

Because this is a message board…?

 

[captain stone]

He wasn't the worst player in the world, but Bill's mental gymnastics he made taking Jermaine Cunningham ahead of Carlos Dunlap has always stuck with me.

Or ahead of Golden Tate.